Board 8 > this grand ace attorney overture music is great (spoilers playthrough)

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"who is this person in the photo who looks exactly like present day barok" - big moment for naruhodo there

meanwhile, this photo somehow makes gregson's death feel more real. even if he comes back, i'm starting to "feel it" more now

which reminds me, we still don't know why sholmes concealed kazuma's body. argh!
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also ryunosuke just got called out for joking that van zieks was a slow reader. ryunosuke's inability to keep his thoughts private/people overheating his comments is a fantastic running gag
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stronghart was the original prosecutor vs asogi sr... his chances of being evil - or at least being responsible for the "reaper" - just skyrocketed again

also, is this theme music gregson's theme, or the generic investigation theme? it is pretty damn good for an investigation theme, and mid-high-tier for a character theme.
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The general investigation music is considered to be Gregson's theme.

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for some reason van zieks flatly denying that it's his gun cracks me up. guy hasn't really made any sort of comment defending his innocence, but he really doesn't think this is his
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Leonhart4 posted...

The general investigation music is considered to be Gregson's theme.

makes sense.

and i assume the uber-hype music that plays with a lot of revelations is the investigation core theme of the game?
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also just a quick reminder to myself:

1. jezaille brett's name was on that disc, so that loose end remains, along with wilson's role

2. the name on the disc was k asogi, not g for genshin. so what the heck!

i wonder if we're going to get to play through the hound of the baskervilles manuscript as if it were a flashback case a la mason system.
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this has to be the most hype i've been for a trial in a long, long time. i remember feeling this type of excitement for 2-4 day 1, and maaaaybe 6-5 day 1. and... that could be it?
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1. i never actually feel the oppressive air in the defendants' antechamber

2. NO JURY LET'S GOOOOOO
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Takumi knows when it's time to get serious, so the jury gets shelved.

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what an odd investigation day in hindsight. i don't know what percentage of it takes place before we find out there been a crime - 35%? 50%?

we know evie and the prison warden and the redheaded gang have to be important to the resolution of the case, but the far, far exciting half of the day focused on the reaper and kazuma, and the game has been laser-focused on that side of the case for a while now. it's gonna be weird to go "backward" to piece it together.
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just noticed asogi has two swords?
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SeabassDebeste posted...

just noticed asogi has two swords?

He does. One of them is western style. They'll discuss it later.

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van zieks seems almost to be on trial for being the reaper. but wouldn't that fit better if the victim were an actual defendant of his?

we'll see!
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SeabassDebeste posted...

van zieks seems almost to be on trial for being the reaper. but wouldn't that fit better if the victim were an actual defendant of his?

we'll see!

it's like Ron DeLite being on trial for being Mask*DeMasque in a heist he didn't actually commit...!

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i mean they at least thought he committed that - but this murder doesn't have any reaper connotations!
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just wait for it

and wait for some new banger themes

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and right on cue here's the new kazuma objection! "the accused is lying on multiple fronts!" - love seeing this said so nakedly

seems worth noting that van zieks was investigating gregson though... wtf mate! why was this not mentioned?!
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oh man

hugh bone pretty much has to be vigil, right???
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i love how much kazuma's argument feels like a defense attorney's
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the hugh bone's connected to the...something

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kazuma's damage animation is like a headache. like that touch.
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i... i don't believe that gregson could be dead for almost 24 hours and the police not be able to deduce that immediately

(edit) yeah nvm they're pointing this out. seems clear he wasn't dead for *that* long and that the watch was an intentional red herring
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SeabassDebeste posted...

kazuma's damage animation is like a headache. like that touch.

Van Zieks has a heart attack and Kazuma has a migraine

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er, surely naruhodo and kazuma should realize the abductee was vigil and not gregson right

it's not clear why vigil has gregson's ID but...
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it's lip dude? gross
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Well, Hugh Boone is the name of a character in the Holmes story, "The Man With the Twisted Lip," so if you'd already read that story, it's a pretty obvious twist!

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yeah, just trying to figure out what evidence to present where now. seems obvious it's him but presenting the photo to testimony ain't cuttin it.
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such of the fan of this new pursuit theme!
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SeabassDebeste posted...

yeah, just trying to figure out what evidence to present where now. seems obvious it's him but presenting the photo to testimony ain't cuttin it.

so i lost one health by presenting vigil instead of gossip's profile at first. then three by trying to present vigil's photo against gossip's testimony. whoops <_<
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Yeah, the new themes they introduce in the last couple cases are almost all great.

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really surprised that vigil is neither dead nor actually a bad guy, present or past!

day 2 investigation begin!
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"how about a band that squeezes your arm when the person you're taking to tells a lie?"

goddammit.
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Iris inventing Apollo's bracelets is a pretty big lore revelation...!

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... I'm starting to wonder if all the other hospitals in London have closed down...
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holy what the hell

van zieks is just dumping the truth on us like acid
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"remember to placer cushion at base of wall outside" LOL

meanwhile crutches...power to harm, power to heal
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bizarre how so much is just accepted as fact now even by kazuma - gregson being part of the reaper squad; asa shinn being the killer.

kazuma is still kazuma, just on a mission. i think i prefer the original rendition of his theme, but the court version of it does kinda fit his prosecutor personality

meanwhile hey, sholmes is about to do some logic and reasoning on mikotoba sr in a mask! the music that plays before the deduction is soooo good
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wasn't the "king of germany's" son supposed to be czech or something <_<
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Bohemian, actually

but yeah that German song is oddly soothing

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what an amazing conclusion. rip coffee mug.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Bohemian, actually

but yeah that German song is oddly soothing

ah yeah, naruhodo just pointed this out as well. anyway bohemia is part of the czech republic so that must be how i translated it in my head
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Case 3 part 2 has the best Deduction Dance.

But Case 4 part 2 has the best Deduction Dance.

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so this case ended without a trial... and also on a really freaking cool twist. wilson not having a kid was the first sign that something was amiss!
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thinking this over - we knew that mikotoba was hiding something really, really significant, and that he was intimately involved, like sholmes, in suppressing information about the hound of the baskervilles case/professor trial. he's been so flagrantly suspicious from the first moment, but the fact he believed in kazuma and even ryunosuke and seemed to want the best for susato (even while being not the best father) felt like he might be a good person underneath it. so he was a huge question mark.

this pretty much confirms he's a "good guy"; he's probably done some sketchy things (the secret of iris's parentage is up for debate; if he really abandoned a pregnant woman or newborn in the UK then he's definitely a terrible father) - but there's no way sholmes is an overall villain, and this secret identity has to be the definitive one for mikotoba - not secretly being the professor or anything like that.

with kazuma's insistence here, it's becoming clearer and clearer that indeed, genshin asogi did not in fact commit the dog murders. between his trauma and van zieks's and the role that they play, they feel like a physical split of the two sides of AA1 edgeworth (though neither nearly as evil as edgeworth during and before 1-2). kazuma also has some vibes of AA2 edgeworth, though being tormented by his father's past is definitely more of an AA1 edgeworth type of situation,

that basically leaves the extremely intimidating-looking jigoku as our japanese conspirator. he's been notably absent a lot since getting to japan. he's a best friend character which can definitely mean suspicious; he's got political influence which is definitely suspicious; and he's a judge whose name we know, which is definitely insanely suspicious. that said he's also proven to be very just as a judge (and even his misogyny is very much systemic and not as personal), so he hasn't been shown to be a bad guy just yet. however, i'm leaning heavily toward jigoku being evil at this point.

at this point the game obviously wants us to think stronghart is suspicious - i mean, they've made him suspicious from day 1, and obviously he's had a lot of sketchy things happen under his watch between handing off a possibly botched professor trial, utilizing van zieks even when the reaper murders are happening, and going hard on van zieks when this has happened. more obviously, he has also suppressed information regarding the professor trial, specifically with his forensics team.

the guy wants to reform the UK justice system with forensic science but is constantly using the very institutions he's creating to hide corruption. in many ways power is always gained and kept this way, with censorship in times of trouble and brutal practicality over fairness and justice at times. but the guy looks like gant and has lots of von karma flags. notably, the way he's manipulating kazuma, whom i've already compared to early edgeworth, feels very von karma-ish.

splitting a single trial into two cases feels a little lame to me, especially if the final case really will be just one trial (one of the things i disliked about GAA1). stronghart has already made implicit threats toward kazuma, hinting that he may take over the prosecution halfway or something. we'll see just how it plays out - soon!
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well here we go
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"pull this hurley's ears"

barf, not looking forward to that
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so i guess if we never defend sholmes, we'll at least get him on the stand?
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Harelock Sholmes

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apparently naruhodo's thoughts are so transparent gina can't read them from the witness stand
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