Board 8 > this grand ace attorney overture music is great (spoilers playthrough)

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huh, we're reallycurious about the reaper reputation... i had no idea this was actually gonna be addressed, just thought it was a ridiculous/exaggerated point like so many others
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sholmes with a "for the money!" reference - love it
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man this is a monster investigation day... just meeting an incredibly suspicious new character now?

i feel like wax doll has to be the secret breeding the "teleportation"
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Are you talking about Madame Tusspells?

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yes sir

she's enjoyable so far though, and i enjoy her witchy look and the cauldron

have to say that was one of the weakest deductions yet though - all of the interesting information happened with the first reveal, that she was being extorted for ransom. and it's not really clear why she was even hiding any of this, which weakens the justification of this mechanic a lot.
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It will eventually become very clear so don't worry about that

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worrying is all i do when i play these games
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hilarious trial day in g2-3 - incredible how hard our client argued against his own case. i think he was a bit annoying outside of court but my god he made a fantastic witness. totally didn't expect van zieks to argue for the success of the experiment; that was super enjoyable

also, no summation examination (but still getting useful info out of the jurors, lol) was a *very* welcome surprise! date i day that i kind of miss having at least some familiar jury faces, though?

feels like we're in a 1-3-esque situation where the defendant seems p obviously not guilty at this point, though

gina is such a great witness, way better than as a defendant

and susato being back is definitely hype. i've been thinking since case 1 that it seems highly likely case 4 would be in japan from susato's POV, and that g2-5 might feature their reunion. i still am expecting/hoping for the former; expect it to be a flashback perhaps, trial-only.

presumably this "professor" case is also the hound of the baskervilles case, so looking forward to that.

one thing i guess i wasn't expecting is that there actually was a body double rather than a wax doll of the victim. that definitely seemed like a person. but in such a case, surely the body double would have to be discovered in person, right?

still, the wax museum wasn't mentioned *at all* in trial 1. sholmes said it might be related to our current case, so i guess esmerelda will be a day 2 witness? or is this mostly setting up the grand finale case?

more to come!
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SeabassDebeste posted...

totally didn't expect van zieks to argue for the success of the experiment; that was super enjoyable

van Zieks is a loyal friend

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Harebrayne is a top tier defendant. Love that guy.

I really like the designs of the G2-3 jury. I think the corn girl is the only miss. I do slightly wish the foreman is a former character, but eh, the well is kinda small to draw from at this point.

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I was very surprised by how much Harebrayne grew on me. He seemed annoying as hell at first but there turned out to be a shocking amount of nuance under the surface with that guy.

Harebrayne is good. He plays off of van Zieks as a foil really well.

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LeonhartFour posted...

van Zieks is a loyal friend

honestly, this occurred to me!

anyway, we're told we should get a move on investigating because we don't have all day, but... this investigation is immediately being set up as a doozy! we look for sholmes and get the runaround. then we try to investigate the cringe scene and get the runaround. at stronghart's office we're given a new location/character to interact with, and after taking to stronghart but before taking to sithe, we STILL can't investigate the crime scene. we're also told to look out for van zieks for a photo of the new witness?

it's like 95% confirmed that van zieks's japanese friend is pop mikotoba now, but there's still a small chance that it's jigoku who's the friend instead. we also find out a shin is jezaille brett, meaning three of the four enclosed names are dead, with the survivor, gregson, now being very conspicuously shipped to france... i guess it's also now essentially confirmed that kazuma is the disciple and that sholmes is involved in a coverup

susato being back is great. and ryunosuke really does seem to feel a lot more for her than any last ship teases. i think ryunosuke might now have my single favorite narrative voice.

the game also seems to de-confirm another japan/susato case, which is a bummer.

at sithe's office, which is where i am, we're being told fingerprints placed the victim on the platform. so... how the hell did he get up top?!
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Even great detectives lie sometimes

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ah, seems our client agrees van zieks was being a bro
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antigravity gun is peak sholmes

sad that the secret wasn't at least an invertible room though - seems wacky enough to explain a lot about it

here we go for trial!
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Best Dance of Deduction

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only one done so far without someone who knew the truth involved, but susato and ryunosuke popping in helped the dynamic direction!
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this repeated conversion of feet to metres has to be a running joke at this point. i'm loving it.
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just chose to name sithe as the accomplice, which really will fill in the holes about the two bodies. if the evidence is submitted by a liar who could also manipulate bodies behind the scenes, then it is much easier to explain

meanwhile, the revived professor is presumably odious man, or a lookalike of him - the photo must be of the wax doll. have to assume that the motive here was that the professor killed someone dear to young drebber (whose pun i don't get). that's why he wanted to verify the corpse.

the question is - who was actually in the grave? still lots unanswered!
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oh wow, just realized sithe's first name is courtney - i.e. the same name as the coroner from 10 years ago
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appreciate naruhodo's composure heading into this summation examination, and the lack of the judge/prosecutor telling us how unusual the practice is. also it coming after some legitinately thrilling events as opposed to a dead-end testimomy is much better pacing.
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Drebber is a Sherlockian reference as it turns out.

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figured

i adore drebber's character design. he seems inspired by kite from hunter x hunter. and the way he moves plus his sinister grin make for such a great combo. g1-5, g2-2, and g2-3 have had stellar villain animations, i have to say

was dead wrong about the professor sharing osman's face as it turns out.

anyway, finally got sithe to the stand! more to come soon!
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Drebber is great, love his theme too

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just in drebber's testimony about the professor not coming back - seems like this journalist could be important. the gravekeeper and the gunman seem like potential loose ends, too.

also, the things people will do for money continue to be a fantastic theme in these games. harebrayne and drebber were both poor scientists, with harebrayne willing to close his eyes for his dream and drebber forced to rob graves to support himself. all true to the era - i love it
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SeabassDebeste posted...

seems like this journalist could be important.

i am dumb
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SeabassDebeste posted...

i am dumb

I was waiting for this

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have no idea what to expect from sithe's testimony here - naruhodo is miles ahead of me rn!
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SeabassDebeste posted...

naruhodo is miles ahead of me rn!

feels weird doesn't it

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the music here presenting the bloodstain during sithe's testimony is a brand new track, right? it's not the objection, cornered, or truth theme
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yeah they start busting out new courtroom tracks around this point

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case done! i did *not* expect that last minute killer swerve during the trial. wish there were a little more evidence on which to nail sithe; she seemed like she could have merited some more time spent on her for being the case's "final boss." another piece of more decisive evidence, a bit more breakdown/closure? because of that, i probably wouldn't quite call this the series's best non-epic case, but man, it's a really good one. also a monster one in terms of length - i have to imagine it exceeds 6-3?

it's a little surprising how much they've now revealed for the coming cases. like, this professor case is the hound of the baskervilles case, and the reason for the secrecy behind it is now clear. but how are we supposed to proceed from here? what is unresolved about that case now? the dog itself isn't that interesting to me in concept, but the murder method and the significance placed on its collar certainly mean that we'll be spending time investigating our canine friend

the gunman who finished off asogi sr has to reappear too.

and von zieks himself seems quite concerned about the reaper's curse. so that absolutely will come up again, whether it's definitively proven to be confidence, or it's legitimately shown to be more
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Yeah, taking down Sithe is a bit underwhelming as anything more than a swerve, but at the same time Drebber is so clearly the "main" villain of the case that I don't mind the focus on him. G2-2 sort of felt similar with Olive Green versus Shamspeare.

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that's a fair point, good comparison! that said, olive is waaay more sympathetic than sithe, while drebber is waaay more sympathetic than shamspeare. sithe has been doing more good than drebber for the last ten years, but the crime she commits, from her position of power, is arguably worse than the one drebber does.
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SeabassDebeste posted...

also a monster one in terms of length - i have to imagine it exceeds 6-3?

in terms of line count, it's the longest non-epic case by quite a bit

we'll see how things shape up when it comes to times when I replay it

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2 hours into g2-4 and no defendant yet, not a great sign

cool to see a juror become more important *after* the trial instead of during

i don't mind longer investigations per se, but this ain't it

sholmes remains a delight
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Yeah, G2-4 gets off to a bit of a slow start, but don't worry. It'll pick up soon.

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whoa vigil hasn't worked at the prison for ten years

wonder if he was the gunman!
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wait is gregson actually dead? can't help disbelieving it. but... big if true!
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okay if the reaper is the defendant then i'm all in, fake death or not

let's gooooooo

so... kazuma will be the prosecutor then, right?! maybe stronghart?
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Hype

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van zieks getting insecure about not having red or black hair is an amazing easter egg, man
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stronghart is too obvious to be directly guilty here, right? is he the real professor? how can you introduce a guy like this and nothave him be guilty?

also, i predicted we would eventually have to defend sholmes. with a high profile defendant like the reaper, not clear that'll hold anymore!
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My dear fellow, a true great detective never lets himself fall under suspicion

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well i've just been told that kazuma's request to prosecute being upheld is unprecedented

van zieks seems to choose all his defendants personally though - especially harebrayne, which seems pretty unethical <_<
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Conflict of interest is a non-existent concept in Ace Attorney...!

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about to leave this hq... kazuma is indeed the prosecutor, but he's being a jerk... and then... HOLD IT

cue the musix and kazuma acting like kazuma again! this theme is just so hype
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Leonhart4 posted...

Conflict of interest is a non-existent concept in Ace Attorney...!

apparently the meaning of "unprecedented" is also non-existent :P
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Yeah, they saved a lot of good tunes for the last two cases

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