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TheRadiant
08/04/21 11:35:34 AM
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You reaction if they don't do kill Aerith





Would be really stupid

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UnfairRepresent
08/04/21 11:37:00 AM
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Where's don't care?

I I wouldn't care :/

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Fabelle
08/04/21 11:37:53 AM
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It would cheapen her death in the original and kind-of ruin her sacrifice tbh

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Spiderman23JII
08/04/21 11:38:51 AM
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they have too. I'm pretty sure you'll be able to resurrect her somehow though towards the end

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Esrac
08/04/21 11:39:47 AM
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That would kind of spoil the whole remake idea for me.
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KeeperOfShadows
08/04/21 11:42:56 AM
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As with any other changes, I'd be interested in seeing how it plays out. By itself, I don't really care. It's what that change would effect that would determine whether I thought it was a good or bad decision.

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Giant_Aspirin
08/04/21 11:48:20 AM
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i dont care what happens in FF7:R at all. the gameplay is not fun, the changes are all stupid so far and waiting 3-5 years between each of the 3-4 episodes is dumb. the entire game is basically a really glorified cinematic combined with a walking sim and button masher.

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legendary_zell
08/04/21 11:48:34 AM
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She's gotta die at first at the very least, and there's gotta be a side/main quest to bring her back most likely. Zack dying is core to the original story and he's around again so we already have the precedent.

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Jabodie
08/04/21 11:50:05 AM
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If she doesn't die, I would bet somebody else would die in her place (though not necessarily at the same point in the story). Tifa or Cloud, I would guess.

But idk how Zack plays into all this yet so who knows.

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theAteam
08/04/21 11:54:03 AM
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It would completely change the dynamic of the game but I wouldn't mind seeing how things might have transpired had she lived.

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masterpug53
08/04/21 12:09:57 PM
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At the risk of being overdramatic, 'Square Enix is dead to me' pretty much hit the nail on the head. I can't bring myself to care about FF7R at this point, and given all the things I heard about it, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if this ends up happening.

And let's be real here; I wasted a lot of hours as a teen in FF7 doing pointless sidequests and scouring the globe for nonexistent clues, convinced that there just had to be a secret, canon-friendly way to revive her (I think Symphony of the Night went a long way towards tricking me into thinking that every game of that era had to have a secret to uncover on as grand a scale as the Reverse Castle). So it'd be at least partially hypocritical for me to insist on her remaining killed for the sake of artistic integrity.

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Legato-and-Vash
08/04/21 12:16:04 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Where's don't care?

I I wouldn't care :/
This. I never played the original so I'm not attached to the story or know much about it although I've known for almost 2 decades about the death. I plan to play the remake though. I'm going to borrow it from a friend if they don't do a PC release soon.

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NecroFoul99
08/04/21 1:05:53 PM
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Ambivalent. If they choose for her to stay alive, for Zach to be alive, for Biggs to be alive (and matter)...I'll just have to see what they do with all this before I feel one way or another. I'm totally okay with the revised story but do hope it doesn't get too complicated in the end with time travel, parallel universes, doppelgangers and the like. As long as it's fun and brings the feels from time to time, I'm good.

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Prismsblade
08/04/21 1:08:25 PM
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Expected, and anybody who isn't the same after the remakes ending are lying to themselves.

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FF_Redux
08/04/21 1:08:45 PM
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Giant_Aspirin
08/04/21 1:09:58 PM
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ArianaGrandSlam posted...
you can always tell when someone didnt engage with the actual combat system at all

i didn't because it was easy enough that i didn't really need to. blocking seemed rather pointless and the dodge timing was awkward and didn't seem effective either. so i basically just mashed attack until i could Triple Slash and repeated that for almost all of the random battles.

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masterpug53
08/04/21 1:11:19 PM
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FF_Redux posted...
I hope they make her the villain

Plot twist of the decade: it's really Aerith who turns into Ultimecia in the future, mwahaha!

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TheWhispered
08/04/21 1:12:02 PM
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FF_Redux posted...
I hope they make her the villain
Se is too in love with sephiroth to do that
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Venger2112
08/04/21 1:12:03 PM
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Esrac posted...
That would kind of spoil the whole remake idea for me.
This. Shes real fun to play and the life they breathed into her by fleshing her out so much was amazing. Best character

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Venger2112
08/04/21 1:12:22 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
Plot twist of the decade: it's really Aerith who turns into Ultimecia in the future, mwahaha!
lmao

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NecroFoul99
08/04/21 1:28:21 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...
i didn't because it was easy enough that i didn't really need to. blocking seemed rather pointless and the dodge timing was awkward and didn't seem effective either. so i basically just mashed attack until i could Triple Slash and repeated that for almost all of the random battles.
Mashed attack and lived on potions, likely. I did too for a while, so it's just a hunch. I saw lots of people describing the game this way when it came out. Totally like a Tales game. Don't get the combat? Fine...normal or easy, mash the buttons and stay stocked up on apple gels. Get the combat? Fine...ramp up the difficulty and learn the complex mechanics even more. FFVIIR is a harder game to be good at than some give it credit for.

Following up with a hard mode playthrough made me better, but man...that first playthrough was rough sometimes. I can still recall the first hunt, the cat in the alley, and how on normal I was pretty frustrated and barely made it through with liberal potion use. Hard mode...no potions, so I had to learn how to actually conquer that thing. It's main hook was to go after the non-controlled character, pin it to the ground, and kill it by bleeding it out. So on hard, I'd constantly switch characters and the priority was to keep that thing off the other character. Beat it on a harder difficulty without potions and definitely couldn't get by with button mashing like I did on normal.

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Funkydog
08/04/21 1:30:57 PM
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I am pretty sure most people here will be dead before they get to that point, so why care?

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masterpug53
08/04/21 1:36:23 PM
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Funkydog posted...
I am pretty sure most people here will be dead before they get to that point, so why care?

Hah, now that'd be the plot twist of the century: Aerith ends up outliving us all by virtue of FF7R Part 23 not coming out within our lifetimes.

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TheRadiant
08/04/21 4:32:29 PM
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How would you feel if they killed someone else off instead?

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Kloe_Rinz
08/04/21 4:47:47 PM
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Wouldnt it be great? The story is already heading in a different direction from the original so theres no reason Aeris needs to die again
It could be a plot point about avoiding fate or something
Imagine if right at the moment sephiroth descends, cloud pushes aeris out of the way and is killed instead
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AldousIsDead
08/04/21 4:52:14 PM
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As I sit here, I probably would hate it, but tell me a story, if it's good enough I can be convinced.

That said playing through to the end of 7r, It'd take a hell of a saving throw to get there, but I will pay to see just how Nomura we're going to get.

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_MorningStar
08/04/21 4:57:35 PM
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TheRadiant
08/04/21 5:04:55 PM
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I don't think SE has the guts after bringing back Zack and sparing Avalanche

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Nemu
08/04/21 5:10:26 PM
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They're already going so far off the rails that it'd be pointless to kill her. There cannot be a soul going into that game who's not spoiled on it already, so subverting expectations is the best way to go.
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Darmik
08/04/21 5:11:09 PM
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I think at least someone else has to die in her place. Defying fate shouldn't be easy.

Although wasn't the whole thing with Aerith is that she died basically saving the planet? So if she lives couldn't she simply complete her prayer or whatever it was?

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Nemu
08/04/21 5:12:24 PM
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Darmik posted...
Defying fate shouldn't be easy.
They kinda literally killed fate already.
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Lairen
08/04/21 5:12:40 PM
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This is the first remake that doesnt affect the original at all....

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TheRadiant
08/04/21 5:12:52 PM
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Darmik posted...
I think at least someone else has to die in her place. Defying fate shouldn't be easy.

Although wasn't the whole thing with Aerith is that she died basically saving the planet? So if she lives couldn't she simply complete her prayer or whatever it was?
She was trying to use the holy materia IIRC which didn't work to stop meteor anyway.

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Powdered_Toast
08/04/21 5:13:10 PM
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They've already done weird stuff with it, may as well go all the way.

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Darmik
08/04/21 5:15:01 PM
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TheRadiant posted...
She was trying to use the holy materia IIRC which didn't work to stop meteor anyway.

Did it not work because she was killed as she was doing it? It has been a while lol

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garan
08/04/21 5:17:04 PM
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Funkydog posted...
I am pretty sure most people here will be dead before they get to that point, so why care?


Agreed. FF7 Remake part 9 coming 2085 exclusively for the PS20.
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Lairen
08/04/21 5:18:05 PM
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Although Aerith successfully cast Holy before her death, it is held back by the power of Sephiroth's will. When Sephiroth is finally defeated and Holy is released, it appears that it is too late to function as effectively as it should, as Meteor has already come too near to the Planet's surface.

2 seconds to google

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Strider102
08/04/21 5:19:35 PM
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Darmik posted...
Did it not work because she was killed as she was doing it? It has been a while lol

It didn't work because it was too late. Sephiroth was holding it back while it could still work, but by the time he was defeated it was too close and required the livestream to destroy Meteor.

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TheRadiant
08/04/21 5:21:12 PM
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Looking back we should have known she was doomed the instant she left the party on her own

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Xethuminra
08/04/21 5:27:53 PM
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None of the above.

I have wanted a way to carry Aerith through to the end since 1999. So, I wouldnt call it joy or relief, but moreso I would call it intrigue.

That moment in the Temple would be a great place to house a Sephiroth boss fight (if you lose, Aerith dies. If you win, Aerith lives.) ~ but they prrrrrobably wont do anything like that.

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Strider102
08/04/21 5:31:49 PM
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As for the topic at hand, I think they'll still do it. It just won't happen when everyone expects it to happen.

Plus I think Sephiroth will manipulate Cloud causing him to do it instead, then he'll give Sephiroth the Black Materia.

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PowerOats
08/04/21 5:34:48 PM
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The plot twist gonna be Cloud, vaguely aware of this event,will try and fail at stopping Sephiroths attack against Aerith and end up getting killed (aka Sephiroths plan)

Sephy is gonna drop a Jenova form then suddenly

ZACK HAS JOINED THE PARTY

They defeat the Jenova form, put Cloud to rest in the lake, and Zack takes Clouds Buster Sword. Zack and co. now have 2 Busters and Holy



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Xethuminra
08/04/21 5:34:59 PM
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Strider102 posted...
As for the topic at hand, I think they'll still do it. It just won't happen when everyone expects it to happen.

Plus I think Sephiroth will manipulate Cloud causing him to do it instead, then he'll give Sephiroth the Black Materia.
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FF_Redux
08/04/21 6:23:12 PM
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PowerOats posted...
The plot twist gonna be Cloud, vaguely aware of this event,will try and fail at stopping Sephiroths attack against Aerith and end up getting killed (aka Sephiroths plan)

Sephy is gonna drop a Jenova form then suddenly

ZACK HAS JOINED THE PARTY

They defeat the Jenova form, put Cloud to rest in the lake, and Zack takes Clouds Buster Sword. Zack and co. now have 2 Busters and Holy

Yeah

Yeah Id play it with Zack dual weilding Buster swords and cloud dying


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Xethuminra
08/04/21 6:25:21 PM
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FF_Redux posted...
Yeah Id play it with Zack dual weilding Buster swords and cloud dying
Removing Cloud (temporarily or otherwise) would be a mistake if they intend to release a 3rd installment, unless Cloud is revived at the very end of the 2nd installment on a cliffhanger/teaser.
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FF_Redux
08/04/21 6:28:31 PM
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Xethuminra posted...
Removing Cloud (temporarily or otherwise) would be a mistake if they intend to release a 3rd installment, unless Cloud is revived at the very end of the 2nd installment on a cliffhanger/teaser.


Since Its Nomura I predict that FF7R Clpuds sould will become the OGs Sepiroth, and they need to defewt it to mske Holy work on the OG ff7

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pegusus123456
08/04/21 6:43:30 PM
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I'm going with the Maximilian Dood theory that the game is going to make you almost certain you can save her...and then she dies anyway.

I don't think I'd like her surviving, but I can see it being done well. I don't actually mind the changes they made. In theory, I think they're pretty cool. In practice, a giant shadow monster showing up was just about the worst way they could have done that.

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Unite
08/04/21 6:48:32 PM
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Hopefully she doesnt die , cant handle it like I did back in 97.
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