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superman 2000
08/31/21 7:57:05 PM
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was a grownass man gleefully plotting the demise of a little boy.

Talk about being far gone...

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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/31/21 8:00:50 PM
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I thought Death Note would be a slow burn for Light going from hero to villain, kind of like Breaking Bad, but he was a full on villain by the second episode lol

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008Zulu
08/31/21 8:01:44 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I thought Death Note would be a slow burn for Light going from hero to villain, kind of like Breaking Bad, but he was a full on villain by the second episode lol
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

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Lairen
08/31/21 8:08:06 PM
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You literally cant outsmart the deathnote.

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Rharyx211
08/31/21 8:09:42 PM
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Who's the little boy? Near? Wasn't he in his 20s?

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Kisai
08/31/21 8:12:47 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I thought Death Note would be a slow burn for Light going from hero to villain, kind of like Breaking Bad, but he was a full on villain by the second episode lol
I don't think he went full-on villain until Naomi. He still seemed to be on his path of "I'm only going to kill bad people", but once he started getting distracted with getting rid of law enforcement that was getting too close to the truth, that's when he started losing it.

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Alexanaxela
08/31/21 8:13:21 PM
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L would have won if light didn't get to make up rules and have two literal god's of death on his side
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pegusus123456
08/31/21 8:22:26 PM
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Alexanaxela posted...
L would have won if light didn't get to make up rules and have two literal god's of death on his side
Light didn't make up rules, he just wrote in fake ones.

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superman 2000
08/31/21 8:26:32 PM
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Rharyx211 posted...
Who's the little boy? Near? Wasn't he in his 20s?

Near was 15; Light was 23.

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Scotty_Rogers
08/31/21 8:27:50 PM
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Near was 17-18

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Doe
08/31/21 8:28:22 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
I thought Death Note would be a slow burn for Light going from hero to villain, kind of like Breaking Bad, but he was a full on villain by the second episode lol
Well Death Note does something really clever by having Light lose his memories. During the corporation arc, Light practically gets demoted to being a secondary character that helps L faithfully in the investigation and also questions to himself whether he could really be Kira, who in the moment he views as evil.

Then, when he finally touches the Death Note again, it's like a rebirth of the character, this time as the narrative's villain.

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Scotty_Rogers
08/31/21 8:28:56 PM
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TC back at it with the flopics

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superman 2000
08/31/21 8:34:29 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Near was 17-18

I looked it up; you're right. So he wasn't a little boy, but he was still arguably a minor. Either way, Light was a grownass man willing to kill someone who was, comparatively, a mere boy.

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Kisai
08/31/21 8:34:45 PM
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Doe posted...
Well Death Note does something really clever by having Light lose his memories. During the corporation arc, Light practically gets demoted to being a secondary character that helps L faithfully in the investigation and also questions to himself whether he could really be Kira, who in the moment he views as evil.

Then, when he finally touches the Death Note again, it's like a rebirth of the character, this time as the narrative's villain.
That is hands down, one of my favorite moments in the series. That almost inhuman scream, the long pause, and then the camera panning onto a completely new, almost demonic expression with Light thinking only one thing: "I've won."

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DespondentDeity
08/31/21 8:36:01 PM
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008Zulu posted...
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

I think its more that power is magnetic to the corruptible.

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EyeWontBeFooled
08/31/21 8:36:24 PM
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superman 2000 posted...
I looked it up; you're right. So he wasn't a little boy, but he was still arguably a minor. Either way, Light was a grownass man willing to kill someone who was, comparatively, a mere boy.
Light was a high schooled aged young man as well. It goes to show how much his narcissism painted the way for his downfall.

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Chicken
08/31/21 8:37:34 PM
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Remember when Trump got the Death Note?

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NightRender
08/31/21 8:39:02 PM
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Chicken posted...
Remember when Trump got the Death Note?

The point of that scene is that he didn't get it.

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Scotty_Rogers
08/31/21 8:39:30 PM
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superman 2000 posted...
I looked it up; you're right. So he wasn't a little boy, but he was still arguably a minor. Either way, Light was a grownass man willing to kill someone who was, comparatively, a mere boy.

"Mere boy" Near was nearly 18 and a super-genius on top of that. And he was about the same age as Light when he first got the Death Note and fought L.

Anime has done much worse.

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bulletproofvita
08/31/21 8:41:54 PM
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Ok im ignorant lol what are we talking about here? I saw a deathnote movie is that similar

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Grischnak
08/31/21 8:42:22 PM
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I honestly thought it was a bit unrealistic how utterly heartless Light was given that he was basically a normal person at the start of the series. It's why I always preferred Lelouch. He did super fucked up shit as well but we saw various times in the series that he was still human. Other then the occasional fit of rage Light was just like an evil robot or something.
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Doe
08/31/21 8:44:41 PM
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Grischnak posted...
I honestly thought it was a bit unrealistic how utterly heartless Light was given that he was basically a normal person at the start of the series. It's why I always preferred Lelouch. He did super fucked up shit as well but we saw various times in the series that he was still human. Other then the occasional fit of rage Light was just like an evil robot or something.
His dad sum's it up well that "Kira is not evil; it is the power to kill that is evil." The Death Note is such a powerful tool that it would in all likelihood consume anyone who obtained it.

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Scotty_Rogers
08/31/21 8:45:22 PM
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The fact Near was even past puberty makes this better than most anime

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superman 2000
08/31/21 8:46:53 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
"Mere boy" Near was nearly 18 and a super-genius on top of that. And he was about the same age as Light when he first got the Death Note and fought L.

And still, Light was a grownass man gleefully plotting the demise of someone who would normally be in high school.

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Scotty_Rogers
08/31/21 8:54:01 PM
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And L was a grownass man plotting the demise of Light when he was still in high school. Bruh this is nothing to most anime lmao

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superman 2000
08/31/21 8:55:43 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
And L was a grownass man plotting the demise of Light when he was still in high school.

L wasn't planning to kill Light.

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Doe
08/31/21 8:57:01 PM
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scottyrogers loves to troll about anime I'd ignore him

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Grischnak
08/31/21 9:00:59 PM
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Doe posted...
His dad sum's it up well that "Kira is not evil; it is the power to kill that is evil." The Death Note is such a powerful tool that it would in all likelihood consume anyone who obtained it.

It didn't really do that to either Misa or Mikami though. They killed but they were both broken from the start so their actions make more sense.
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superman 2000
08/31/21 9:03:23 PM
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Grischnak posted...
It didn't really do that to either Misa or Mikami though. They killed but they were both broken from the start so their actions make more sense.

Yeah, Light's transition was pretty rushed. Went from a relatively normal kid to a fucking psychopath in no time. Initially struggled with the idea of killing a damn rapist, yet soon after has no qualms about taking the life of a detective who simply disagrees with his world view.

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Doe
08/31/21 9:04:19 PM
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Grischnak posted...
It didn't really do that to either Misa or Mikami though. They killed but they were both broken from the start so their actions make more sense.
It absolutely did that to Mikami. Dude worshipped Kira as God and spent all his free time writing in the notebook once he obtained it.

Misa straight up doesn't have the vision necessary to use the Death Note on a wide scale. She's just that air-headed.

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Doe
08/31/21 9:08:04 PM
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By the way, the Death Note pilot chapter actually does what you guys are talking. Kagami is a child who first uses it accidentally and initially sets out to undo the damage he's done, and then there's a timeskip to when he's become comfortable with the idea of using it on a wider scale.

The reason Light's descent is way faster in the official release is probably due to the pacing required for a weekly chapter release. The official version does a better job of establishing the tone of the entire story (a prolonged battle of cold wits between two unhinged geniuses) to new readers very quickly.

BTW the pilot is a pretty cool read I recommend it if you're a big fan




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Grischnak
08/31/21 9:42:21 PM
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Doe posted...
It absolutely did that to Mikami. Dude worshipped Kira as God and spent all his free time writing in the notebook once he obtained it.

Misa straight up doesn't have the vision necessary to use the Death Note on a wide scale. She's just that air-headed.

Both were Kira worshipers before they got the Death Note and both had hard fucked up lives that warped their minds before even meeting Light. Mikami in particular was a fucking nut. The Death Note didn't drive either crazy. If anything corrupted them further it was Kira not the Death Note.
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Scotty_Rogers
08/31/21 9:53:11 PM
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superman 2000 posted...
L wasn't planning to kill Light.

He was going to sentence Kira to desu

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superman 2000
08/31/21 10:05:03 PM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
He was going to sentence Kira to desu

I don't know what that means.

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itachi15243
09/01/21 2:06:30 AM
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superman 2000 posted...
I looked it up; you're right. So he wasn't a little boy, but he was still arguably a minor. Either way, Light was a grownass man willing to kill someone who was, comparatively, a mere boy.

I'm sure if it came between your own life and a 15-17 year old boys, you'd choose your own.

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Kanaya413
09/01/21 2:11:20 AM
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Grischnak posted...
I honestly thought it was a bit unrealistic how utterly heartless Light was given that he was basically a normal person at the start of the series. It's why I always preferred Lelouch. He did super fucked up shit as well but we saw various times in the series that he was still human. Other then the occasional fit of rage Light was just like an evil robot or something.
Its really interesting when you see how he acts when he loses his memories
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ApherosyLove
09/01/21 2:15:38 AM
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superman 2000 posted...
I don't know what that means.
Lmao

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emmo
09/01/21 2:28:57 AM
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The end of Death Note (the anime) sees Light passing by his former self.

It is said that the true character of a person cannot be ascertained until you give that person absolute power.

In this sense, Light is quite literally a tragic hero, though his actions mirror more closely that of a typical antagonist.

In short, I love that godsdamned series.

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superman 2000
09/01/21 2:41:39 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
I'm sure if it came between your own life and a 15-17 year old boys, you'd choose your own.

I wouldnt express glee over it like a psychopath. It would just be the unfortunate reality of the situation. Light gets excited like a kid in a candy shop over the prospect of killing others, even if all they do is disagree with him.

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_____Cait
09/01/21 2:41:42 AM
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emmo posted...
The end of Death Note (the anime) sees Light passing by his former self.

It is said that the true character of a person cannot be ascertained until you give that person absolute power.

In this sense, Light is quite literally a tragic hero, though his actions mirror more closely that of a typical antagonist.

In short, I love that godsdamned series.

Light killed people for his own gain as time went on. You could argue that he was a hero in the beginning, very, very, loosely, but he wasnt anything close in the end. It wasnt tragic, it was for the best.

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emmo
09/01/21 2:53:50 AM
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_____Cait posted...
You could argue that he was a hero in the beginning, very, very, loosely, but he wasnt anything close in the end. It wasnt tragic, it was for the best.

I mean "hero" quite literally within the context of the story. He is the protagonist, though his means are ultimately devious and cruel. This brings about his demise, wherein lies the tragedy. That's not to say it isn't for the greater good.

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Scotty_Rogers
09/01/21 3:20:48 AM
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Light wasn't gleeful about killing a child. He was just gleeful about eliminating his last real opponents and living the rest of his life as Kira in "peace".

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_____Cait
09/01/21 3:21:00 AM
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Ah, gotcha.

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superman 2000
09/01/21 3:21:47 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
Light wasn't gleeful about killing a child. He was just gleeful about eliminating his last real opponents and living the rest of his life as Kira in "peace".

...and his last opponent was a child, who he was happily ready to kill. Quit playing semantics lol

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superman 2000
09/01/21 3:23:00 AM
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Worst yet, he was also planning to take out his own team, including Matsuda (who supported Light the most). He did this all with excitement.

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Scotty_Rogers
09/01/21 3:29:21 AM
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superman 2000 posted...
...and his last opponent was a child, who he was happily ready to kill. Quit playing semantics lol

A nearly legal supergenius who was trying to throw him in prison.

Actually, forget about him being "nearly" legal; Near was already 18. In the manga, Light dies in 2010; Near would have been turning 19 that year as he was born in 1991. Stop pretending that you actually care about this.

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superman 2000
09/01/21 3:43:45 AM
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Scotty_Rogers posted...
A nearly legal supergenius who was trying to throw him in prison.

Actually, forget about him being "nearly" legal; Near was already 18. In the manga, Light dies in 2010; Near would have been turning 19 that year as he was born in 1991. Stop pretending that you actually care about this.

That's fine; I'm cool with him being an adult. It doesn't ultimately change anything, as Light would have gleefully killed him regardless (it's not like he knew how old Near was). "Light was excited about killing someone who COULD'VE been a kid" doesn't exactly make him look any saner, especially considering Near doesn't really give off the impression of being legal (a 5-ft. guy who still plays with toys).

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Grischnak
09/01/21 8:47:20 AM
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superman 2000 posted...
Worst yet, he was also planning to take out his own team, including Matsuda (who supported Light the most). He did this all with excitement.

I mean, the guy got his father killed and he only pretended to care. Obviously he wouldn't care about them. Though to "defend" Light in a sense, I don't think he was happy to murder them because of a serial killer like joy. I think it was more a matter of Light being competitive and always wanting to win. They were also out to capture or kill him so it's not like any of them were really on his side.
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