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Solar_Crimson 09/04/21 8:37:54 PM #1:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbEavDqA8iE America needs to get on the ball. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:957741497] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbEavDqA8iE America needs to get on the ball. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 09/04/21 8:38:47 PM #2:	Not watching. I'm assuming since it's Finland they deported all the homeless --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:957741515] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Not watching. I'm assuming since it's Finland they deported all the homeless </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Njolk 09/04/21 8:38:55 PM #3:	Harsh winters killed em off? --- Suffering is expecting things to last forever <cite>Njolk posted [p:957741522] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Harsh winters killed em off? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PaunchyTurtle53 09/04/21 8:39:46 PM #4:	Finland isn't real. Are you from Finland? Do you know Anyone from Finland? Do you know anyone who's visited Finland? Anyone who's from Finland is a fed, and anyone who claims to have visited Finland was tricked by the feds. --- The best advice my dad ever gave me was, "Life's full of idiots, don't be one." <cite>PaunchyTurtle53 posted [p:957741545] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Finland isn't real. Are you from Finland? Do you know Anyone from Finland? Do you know anyone who's visited Finland? Anyone who's from Finland is a fed, and anyone who claims to have visited Finland was tricked by the feds. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Flauros 09/04/21 8:39:49 PM #5:	How many homeless did finland have at its peak compared to the US? --- https://imgur.com/EX6Md7k https://imgur.com/X4cT0Sp Yim/Yum https://imgur.com/A3kur0P https://imgur.com/Hj9RrC6 <cite>Flauros posted [p:957741547] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>How many homeless did finland have at its peak compared to the US? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 09/04/21 8:40:06 PM #7:	Irony posted... Not watching. I'm assuming since it's Finland they deported all the homeless No, they actually provide housing from the get-go, and then offer social assistance with the afterwards. As opposed to what most of the US does, where there's a bunch of guidelines one has to meet before even beginning to get into even shared housing. --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:957741557] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Irony posted... </cite> <quote>Not watching. I'm assuming since it's Finland they deported all the homeless</quote>No, they actually provide housing from the get-go, and then offer social assistance with the afterwards. As opposed to what most of the US does, where there's a bunch of guidelines one has to meet before even beginning to get into even shared housing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solar_Crimson 09/07/21 12:57:36 AM #8:	Finland also has speeding tickets fines that are based on the person's income, making rich people pay over $100k for a ticket: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket/387484/ --- I often wonder if we are growing as a people... or in fact, regressing. <cite>Solar_Crimson posted [p:957807731] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Finland also has speeding tickets fines that are based on the person's income, making rich people pay over $100k for a ticket: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket/387484/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 09/07/21 12:58:30 AM #9:	Solar_Crimson posted... Finland also has speeding tickets fines that are based on the person's income, making rich people pay over $100k for a ticket: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket/387484/ nice --- be the best 'cause nothing less will do <cite>teep_ posted [p:957807748] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted...</cite> <quote>Finland also has speeding tickets fines that are based on the person's income, making rich people pay over $100k for a ticket: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket/387484/</quote> nice</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pandamonic 09/07/21 2:54:55 AM #10:	Solar_Crimson posted... Finland also has speeding tickets fines that are based on the person's income, making rich people pay over $100k for a ticket: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket/387484/ That... is the way. --- ...it's a very rare incantation to be sure. Only used in lost ancient arts and magics such as wrestling... <cite>Pandamonic posted [p:957809334] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>Finland also has speeding tickets fines that are based on the person's income, making rich people pay over $100k for a ticket: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket/387484/</quote>That... is the way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiganeer 09/07/21 4:00:31 AM #11:	we didn't tho, we gave them a roof over their head and monthly spending money that they can use on drugs and alcohol, but they're still leeches whose existence contributes absolutely nothing to our society crappy use of our tax money <cite>Kaiganeer posted [p:957810007] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>we didn't tho, we gave them a roof over their head and monthly spending money that they can use on drugs and alcohol, but they're still leeches whose existence contributes absolutely nothing to our society crappy use of our tax money </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KobeSystem 09/07/21 4:03:22 AM #12:	Solar_Crimson posted... Finland also has speeding tickets fines that are based on the person's income, making rich people pay over $100k for a ticket: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket/387484/ Raging clue rn --- http://www.last.fm/user/KobeSystem92 \| https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/725087214401671170/02UGgybe_400x400.jpg WIN SEXANGELS GREATKERZ <cite>KobeSystem posted [p:957810037] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Solar_Crimson posted... </cite> <quote>Finland also has speeding tickets fines that are based on the person's income, making rich people pay over $100k for a ticket: https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/03/finland-home-of-the-103000-speeding-ticket/387484/</quote>Raging clue rn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Arcanine2009 09/07/21 4:09:31 AM #13:	I will watch later --- Less is more. Everything you want, isn't everything you need. <cite>Arcanine2009 posted [p:957810093] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>I will watch later </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 09/07/21 4:32:32 AM #14:	Finland also deregulated renting market, resulting in skyrocketing prices that were subsidized so people would be able to afford it. Effectively it's a cash transfer directly from the government to the landlords. --- Stop being so aggressively argumentative for no reason. - UnfairRepresent <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:957810328] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Finland also deregulated renting market, resulting in skyrocketing prices that were subsidized so people would be able to afford it. Effectively it's a cash transfer directly from the government to the landlords. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkmaian23 09/07/21 4:48:51 AM #15:	Kaiganeer posted... we didn't tho, we gave them a roof over their head and monthly spending money that they can use on drugs and alcohol, but they're still leeches whose existence contributes absolutely nothing to our society First of all, it's absurd to think that they are all like that. Second, unless there is some hidden dark side to social programs like this, it is infinitely better than finding gross or dangerous homeless folks leaving piss, shit, or used needles on the streets. Or finding them lying around in bathrooms or something to stay warm. And you know, for the ones that aren't super gross or dangerous but just can't function, how is it better having them lie around on the streets instead of having a place to stay? For them or society? The US solution--which consists primarily of leaving people to flounder on the streets with almost no available assistance or a way out, and don't you dare try and address any of the reasons why there seems to be a disturbing number of homeless in the Greatest Country on Earth--is horrible. It's bad for the homeless and it's bad for regular folks too. I have no idea how many homeless people are just down on their luck and could function with some help, but it certainly isn't zero. And even your so-called "leeches" are still people that are going to exist one way or another. It's safer for all parties concerned if they have a place to stay. And I'll bet a non-zero number of "leeches" might eventually change their ways if they have access to generous social programs. If you disagree with all this, I'd like to know why. <cite>darkmaian23 posted [p:957810512] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Kaiganeer posted... </cite> <quote>we didn't tho, we gave them a roof over their head and monthly spending money that they can use on drugs and alcohol, but they're still leeches whose existence contributes absolutely nothing to our society</quote>First of all, it's absurd to think that they are all like that. Second, unless there is some hidden dark side to social programs like this, it is infinitely better than finding gross or dangerous homeless folks leaving piss, shit, or used needles on the streets. Or finding them lying around in bathrooms or something to stay warm. And you know, for the ones that aren't super gross or dangerous but just can't function, how is it better having them lie around on the streets instead of having a place to stay? For them or society? The US solution--which consists primarily of leaving people to flounder on the streets with almost no available assistance or a way out, and don't you dare try and address any of the reasons why there seems to be a disturbing number of homeless in the Greatest Country on Earth--is horrible. It's bad for the homeless and it's bad for regular folks too. I have no idea how many homeless people are just down on their luck and could function with some help, but it certainly isn't zero. And even your so-called "leeches" are still people that are going to exist one way or another. It's safer for all parties concerned if they have a place to stay. And I'll bet a non-zero number of "leeches" might eventually change their ways if they have access to generous social programs. If you disagree with all this, I'd like to know why. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaiganeer 09/07/21 6:47:19 AM #16:	darkmaian23 posted... it is infinitely better than finding gross or dangerous homeless folks leaving piss, shit, or used needles on the streets. they still do this, they loiter around the streets during the day and go to their shelter at night. i work in public transport and deal with these wet sacks of shit every single day darkmaian23 posted... And I'll bet a non-zero number of "leeches" might eventually change their ways if they have access to generous social programs. the programs don't rehabilitate, they enable, same as our prison system which just provides criminals a comfy place to network in. why work when you can do fuck all and have the rest of the populace pay you money for doing that? this idea that all human life is precious and worth protecting is false, because 99.8% of these guys are scum. the ones that actually want to move up in life are offered the means to do so, but at much too high of a cost <cite>Kaiganeer posted [p:957811718] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>darkmaian23 posted... </cite> <quote>it is infinitely better than finding gross or dangerous homeless folks leaving piss, shit, or used needles on the streets.</quote>they still do this, they loiter around the streets during the day and go to their shelter at night. i work in public transport and deal with these wet sacks of shit every single day darkmaian23 posted... </cite> <quote>And I'll bet a non-zero number of "leeches" might eventually change their ways if they have access to generous social programs.</quote>the programs don't rehabilitate, they enable, same as our prison system which just provides criminals a comfy place to network in. why work when you can do fuck all and have the rest of the populace pay you money for doing that? this idea that all human life is precious and worth protecting is false, because 99.8% of these guys are scum. the ones that actually want to move up in life are offered the means to do so, but at much too high of a cost </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 09/07/21 7:10:51 AM #17:	Flauros posted... How many homeless did finland have at its peak compared to the US? What does it matter? The U.S has a GDP of 21 trillion, your country can afford to look after the homeless. --- If you protest, it's because you feel your voice isn't being heard. If you riot, it's because you feel your voice is being ignored. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:957812000] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Flauros posted... </cite> <quote>How many homeless did finland have at its peak compared to the US?</quote>What does it matter? The U.S has a GDP of 21 trillion, your country can afford to look after the homeless. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaddenDude-- 09/07/21 7:16:18 AM #18:	Finland probably also has higher taxes. Looks like 66k+ euro gets taxed at 30%, maybe we should start doing that here tbh. If you make 40k plus, lets raise your taxes from 22 to 30% and pay for homeless that way. --- I am Dan_Haren <cite>MaddenDude-- posted [p:957812073] in How Finlan... [t:79646325]...</cite> <quote>Finland probably also has higher taxes. Looks like 66k+ euro gets taxed at 30%, maybe we should start doing that here tbh. If you make 40k plus, lets raise your taxes from 22 to 30% and pay for homeless that way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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