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brestugo 09/08/21 8:30:20 AM #1: |
https://ktla.com/news/california/lawmakers-pass-bill-to-make-california-the-1st-state-to-outlaw-stealthing-or-nonconsensual-condom-removal/
California lawmakers moved to make the state the first to outlaw stealthing, which is removing a condom without permission during intercourse. Legislators sent Gov. Gavin Newsom a bill on Tuesday adding the act to the states civil definition of sexual battery. It makes it illegal to remove the condom without obtaining verbal consent. But it doesnt change the criminal code. Instead, it would amend the civil code so that a victim could sue the perpetrator for damages, including punitive damages. Democratic Assemblywoman Cristina Garcia has been pushing for the legislation since 2017, when a Yale University study said acts of stealthing were increasing against both women and gay men. Her original bill attempted to make it a crime. But legislative analysts said at the time that the act could already be considered misdemeanor sexual battery, even if it isnt specifically referenced in the criminal code. But the analysts said it is rarely prosecuted, if only because of the difficulty in proving that a perpetrator acted intentionally instead of accidently. Analysts this year said Garcias bill would remove any ambiguity in civil law. Garcia said the act can cause long-term physical and emotional harm to its victims. Lawmakers in New York and Wisconsin previously proposed related legislation, but Garcia said California would be the first to make it illegal. Her bill passed in California this year with no opposition. Its disgusting that there are online communities that defend and encourage stealthing and give advice on how to get away with removing the condom without the consent of their partner, but there is nothing in law that makes it clear that this is a crime, Garcia said in a statement. Her bill has support from the Erotic Service Providers Legal Educational Research Project, which said it could allow sex workers to sue clients who remove condoms during otherwise consensual sex. Also Tuesday, the state Senate moved to treat the rape of a spouse the same as the rape of a non-spouse. The bill removes an exemption to the rape law if the victim is married to the perpetrator. California is one of 11 states that distinguish between spousal rape and other forms of sexual assault. The bills supporters said the distinction lingers from a time when women were expected to obey their husbands. Those convicted of spousal rape currently can be eligible for probation instead of prison or jail, although there is no difference in the maximum penalties. Those convicted of spousal rape also must register as sex offenders only if the act involved the use of force or violence and the spouse was sentenced to state prison. The bill passed, 36-0. It returns to the Assembly for a final vote before lawmakers adjourn for the year on Friday. --- Voted NO and left the second question blank. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doom_Art 09/08/21 8:31:37 AM #2: |
I'm actually shocked that's not already illegal
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Solar_Crimson 09/08/21 8:32:36 AM #3: |
Good on both counts.
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Flauros 09/08/21 8:35:20 AM #4: |
brestugo posted...
Her bill has support from the Erotic Service Providers Legal Educational Research Project, which said it could allow sex workers to sue clients who remove condoms during otherwise consensual sex. Why would anyone want to do that? Especially with a whore? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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brestugo 09/08/21 8:36:09 AM #5: |
I had heard rumors of stealthing but had no idea there's an online community. Guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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Flauros 09/08/21 8:37:42 AM #6: |
brestugo posted...
I had heard rumors of stealthing but had no idea there's an online community. Guess I shouldn't be surprised.Wait till you find out about gift giving >_> --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kitt 09/08/21 8:38:11 AM #7: |
That's not already illegal?
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BLAKUboy 09/08/21 8:38:27 AM #8: |
I swear we already had a big stink on stealthing like a decade ago. How is this the first bill on it to pass?
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A_QuietPlace462 09/08/21 8:40:33 AM #9: |
If you need another reason why ChildFree folk bash the antics of breeders...
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Jerry_Hellyeah 09/08/21 8:41:26 AM #10: |
How can any case for this ever be proven, ever?
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Were_Wyrm 09/08/21 8:43:04 AM #11: |
Leave it to California to make sexual assault illegal
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Nukazie 09/08/21 8:44:27 AM #13: |
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brestugo 09/08/21 8:50:56 AM #14: |
Flauros posted...
Wait till you find out about gift giving >_>Actually I saw a documentary somewhere on that one. But, yeah...Jesus. --- Voted NO and left the second question blank. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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assassingriskel 09/08/21 9:08:03 AM #15: |
But women lying about birth control is ok because equality
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PaulieWalnuts 09/08/21 9:12:46 AM #16: |
Does this cover women who poke holes on condoms to get knocked up by basketball players and rich people?
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voldothegr8 09/08/21 9:18:22 AM #17: |
Jerry_Hellyeah posted...
How can any case for this ever be proven, ever? Unless filmed it can't be proven. Yes it's nothing but a feel good law which prevents nothing. --- Oda break tracker 2021- 5 (4) | THE Ohio State: 1-0 | Las Vegas Raiders: 0-0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guns_of_Verdun 09/08/21 9:18:59 AM #18: |
Doom_Art posted...
I'm actually shocked that's not already illegalThis That's rape --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Weezy_Tha_Don 09/08/21 9:19:17 AM #19: |
didnt know there was a name for that
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Quicksilver 09/08/21 9:31:49 AM #20: |
Prior to any act of sexual intercourse it is advisable that both parties sign a contract stating what is acceptable along with a questionnaire to answered by both parties with pertinent questions to be agreed upon by both parties. The signing of said contract is to be witnessed by a public notary.
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cuttin_in_farm 09/08/21 9:36:02 AM #21: |
assassingriskel posted...
But women lying about birth control is ok Its not. Jerry_Hellyeah posted... How can any case for this ever be proven, ever? I assume just like spousal rape, its trusting in good faith. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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