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Lightning Strikes 09/09/21 7:37:52 PM #1: |
We have reached 100 topics in this series! Todays game is Final Fantasy VI. How would you rate the story on a scale from 1-10?
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Mac Arrowny 09/09/21 7:39:43 PM #2: |
10
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swordz9 09/09/21 7:41:47 PM #3: |
8/10. Its pretty damn solid for the most part, but I feel like some of the writing suffers for the lamer/forgettable characters and everything with Terra is dreadfully boring. Theres some good stuff in there otherwise though.
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pjbasis 09/09/21 7:43:00 PM #4: |
8
Hard to think of a game with a more ambitious story at this point in time. Really effective at both halves of its two styles too. I think I actually prefer Ruin's nonlinear vignette structure and the atmospheric storytelling there, though the games early pacing is pretty unmatched until the party gets together. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strife2 09/09/21 7:43:10 PM #5: |
Easy, easy, EASY 10
Ensemble cast with 5-6 main characters/high end secondaries Kefka pulling off the shit he pulled A swift storytelling style that always takes characters to new places, new plot twists, and focused presentation The Opera Scene! Searching For Friends! This game never lets up, and is my favorite Final Fantasy for so many reasons. I always go back to re-experience the story. So much goodness in a game. --- "Evening caress, Always yearning, I must confess, The stars aren't burning" Copernicus - Candlemass ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFDragon 09/09/21 7:43:51 PM #6: |
7
Everything involving Terra Blandford drags it down. e: except for Terra's theme which is actually a delight --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? #theresafreakingghostafterus ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 09/09/21 7:44:03 PM #7: |
8.5/10
Having Kefka destroy the world with half the game still to go is still an amazingly bold plot twist. I think the second half suffers a bit with the open-ended nature basically making a lot of the characters interchangeable, but FFVI did a lot to change the way the series does its stories for the better. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TomNook 09/09/21 7:44:03 PM #8: |
4.5/10
Not memorable or bad. But slightly under mediocre. --- Bells, bells, bells! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 09/09/21 7:46:12 PM #9: |
TomNook posted...
Not memorable FFVI is a lot of things but unmemorable is not one of them. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ChainLTTP 09/09/21 7:47:41 PM #10: |
9.5
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malyg 09/09/21 7:47:53 PM #11: |
FFVI is forgettable and unmemorable
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Hbthebattle 09/09/21 7:52:10 PM #12: |
8.5
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KamikazePotato 09/09/21 7:53:04 PM #13: |
5
I respect what it did with the plot twist, but the game never managed to grab me. --- It's Reyn Time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BetrayedTangy 09/09/21 7:59:19 PM #14: |
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HasteDeux 09/09/21 8:00:00 PM #15: |
7.5
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FL81 09/09/21 8:01:17 PM #16: |
9.5/10
Better than FF4's story by far --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paratroopa1 09/09/21 8:24:13 PM #17: |
9/10
I have nothing special to say about it right now, I just felt like it would be a sensible choice for day 100 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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swordz9 09/09/21 8:34:42 PM #18: |
FL81 posted...
9.5/10 Not exactly a high bar there lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheArkOfTurus 09/09/21 8:36:08 PM #19: |
6
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colliding 09/09/21 8:36:19 PM #20: |
9/10
monumental for its time period, but almost immediately surmounted by Square's next game (Chrono Trigger). absolutely brilliant in the expertise it shows in two different types of storytelling, from the first half's relatively guided narrative that establishes characterization and major plot beats to the second half's pioneering open gameplay, which promotes experimentation and exploration. --- while you slept, the world changed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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xp1337 09/09/21 8:37:00 PM #21: |
6.5
World of Ruin brings it down, IMO. It kind of loses its momentum there. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingButz 09/09/21 8:51:47 PM #22: |
7.5
It works and was great for its time. Some characters are really boring though --- rip imgcake ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RaidenGarai 09/09/21 8:53:48 PM #23: |
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Jesse_Custer 09/09/21 9:06:54 PM #24: |
9.5
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plasmabeam 09/09/21 9:32:15 PM #26: |
2/10
On both of my playthroughs, I found the first half of the story to be a slog. Too many characters, too many storylines, and the plot-hopping killed it for me. It felt like the writers were trying to tell a JRPG-version of Stephen King's The Stand, but they reached too far beyond their grasp. For me the most frustrating part was the ensemble cast. Some characters are likable and well characterized, but whenever I started getting invested in someone like Locke or the Figaro brothers, I'd get thrown into another snoozer plotline with Cyan or Terra. The constant disruptions prevented me from building any meaningful attachments, and as a result the entire playable cast feels like a dozen Kimahris to me--passable, but who cares. Kefka was a solid villain and the only real bright spot of the story. His backstory is excellent, and it's the only thing that stopped me from handing out a 1 here. I'll refrain from beating up on the World of Ruin. Even the game's biggest fans admit that the story takes a nosedive here, and I have nothing to add to that. FF6 is a half of a story, and that first half never impressed me. --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mac Arrowny 09/09/21 9:34:18 PM #27: |
plasmabeam posted...
what a thing to say despite some people preferring WoR in this very topic --- All the stars in the sky are waiting for you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeonhartFour 09/09/21 9:35:12 PM #28: |
plasmabeam posted...
Even the game's biggest fans admit that the story takes a nosedive here nah this is not true, a lot of people love WoR --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axl_Rose_85 09/09/21 9:46:34 PM #29: |
9.5
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StartTheMachine 09/09/21 9:50:27 PM #30: |
9
Played it for the first time a few years ago and was blown away. Compelling cast, memorable moments, just a joy through and through that absolutely stood the test of time. --- - Blur - Welcome to your Divinity. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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plasmabeam 09/09/21 10:05:56 PM #31: |
Mac Arrowny posted...
what a thing to say despite some people preferring WoR in this very topic LeonhartFour posted... nah this is not true, a lot of people love WoR Fair points. I posted my rating before looking at the responses. --- ~Jacksonville Jaguars~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axl_Rose_85 09/09/21 10:45:41 PM #32: |
World of Ruin was amazing. I think people just hate the fact that most of the stuff including getting all your party members back is optional, that and Phoenix Cave being an obnoxious party split dungeon.
I love how WoR portrays Celes as the main character and how she rallys all the others who have lost hope and given in to despair to stand up against Kefka. Story is truly exceptional for it's time. Still the best overall 2D RPG if Suikoden II didn't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Snake5555555555 09/10/21 3:16:52 AM #33: |
6.5/10
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Arti 09/10/21 3:22:44 AM #34: |
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andylt 09/10/21 8:02:58 AM #35: |
8.5
It does a lot right, tells a very solid story and you can't fault its ambition. But as others have said, it does kinda drop once you get the airship in WoR. Several character arcs feel unfinished or rushed, there's very little interaction between the gang at that point, and I just don't really care about Kefka. But there's still some terrific beats in that last half (Celes' --- Slowly becoming a Final Fantasy aficionado. Currently playing Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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paulg235 09/10/21 8:15:08 AM #36: |
8.5
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LinkMarioSamus 09/10/21 9:03:43 AM #37: |
10
Another one of the best the medium has to offer. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 09/10/21 9:16:32 AM #38: |
Axl_Rose_85 posted...
being an obnoxious party split dungeon. hot take...I like the party split dungeons. Feels epic, love using more or all of my characters, it forces you to really divvy up equipment and shit (or just a lot of switching load outs, but that's boring!) --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 09/10/21 9:17:35 AM #39: |
Also bump my score up to a 9, it should really only be a point off the best.
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Mythiot 09/10/21 10:16:56 AM #40: |
10
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Leonhart4 09/10/21 12:12:44 PM #41: |
Split party dungeons aren't that bad in FFVI because of the Moogle Charm.
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GuessMyUserName 09/10/21 12:13:36 PM #42: |
10
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andylt 09/10/21 12:35:06 PM #43: |
pjbasis posted...
hot take...I like the party split dungeons. Feels epic, love using more or all of my characters, it forces you to really divvy up equipment and shit (or just a lot of switching load outs, but that's boring!)I also liked the party split dungeons! I love having a reason to use most of the team, they all play so differently I hate having to bench 3/4 of them most of the time. Didn't use the charm either, no need! --- Slowly becoming a Final Fantasy aficionado. Currently playing Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trdl23 09/10/21 12:55:37 PM #44: |
8.5
Damn it Terra --- E come vivo? Vivo! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kamekguy 09/10/21 1:50:27 PM #45: |
9
What FFVI fails to do at keeping consistently interesting characters (I think Terra and Edgar especially fall off a cliff of 'interesting' after their backstory's done being explored), it makes up for in how strong the game is thematically. The idea of politics and alliances and grand, epic, swashbuckling adventure dying because the world is crap and one selfish clown just wants to see it burn, and the entirety of World of Ruin being the monumental task of proving him wrong. Kefka is a brilliant villain that every single member of the party opposes ideologically (even Gogo from the simple perspective of "wow your story sounds cool, seems better than being in a worm, let's go" ) which makes every action in World of Ruin feel like a fight against him. Adding in the optional backstory with characters like Shadow that Chrono Trigger would eventually go nuts with, and it's a tremendously ambitious package that actively works best as a video game beyond any other medium the story could've been told in. Plus I'm a sucker for all the literary analogues that Cyan gets thrown into. Does have some pacing issues, though. Game takes its sweet time setting itself up and doesn't really hit any sort of momentum until Doma gets poisoned, though a lot of that is the mindlessness of the early game combat being at odds with the story being told. Really, it's more gameplay limitations holding back the story at times than anything the plot itself does wrong. And yeah, Terra's less than the sum of her parts. --- Mario Vs Cloud 2002: A Video Retrospective - https://youtu.be/1dx4t6H_K9Y Full Channel Available Here!: https://www.youtube.com/c/designingfor ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zylothewolf 09/10/21 2:14:46 PM #46: |
A solid 8.
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Evillordexdeath 09/10/21 4:19:13 PM #47: |
9
The beginning of Square's golden era, where almost every game they released was some kind of milestone in video game storytelling. Aside from the mid-game twist, the other major highlight is the final boss fight, where each stage of the battle (and the music) metaphorically describes a different part of Kefka's character. --- I'm playing every game from GotD 2020! Games Completed: 20/129 Currently Playing: Dark Souls ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HeroDelTiempo17 09/10/21 4:39:47 PM #48: |
8
Nothing much to be said that hasn't been said already. Great story but I agree that the pacing and execution suffers during the WoR, even though I love the concept it just felt like a slog. --- I definitely did not forget to put the 2020 GOTD Guru winner, azuarc in my sig! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lightning Strikes 09/10/21 4:43:35 PM #49: |
8.
Also sorry guys I thought I could get todays topic on time but I will have to put the series on a short hiatus until Wednesday as Im out of tiwn again. --- I just decided to change this sig. Blaaaaaaargh azuarc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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linkhatesganon 09/10/21 4:44:56 PM #50: |
9
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