Poll of the Day > Why is Kpop so soulless?

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Notschmendrake
09/19/21 9:26:23 AM
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A few friends keep trying to get me into it but its all just the same less than mediocre garbage. Its just so ridiculously empty.

On the bright side, it does feel like the logical conclusion to pop music in general. The goal has always been to try to drain as much of the soul out of music as possible to make it more accessible for mass consumption, and THANKFULLY i think kpop has taken that idea as far as it can possibly go. at least it shouldnt be able to get any worse.
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Judgmenl
09/19/21 9:29:19 AM
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I still don't get Kpop. Jpop is way better.

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JOExHIGASHI
09/19/21 9:29:57 AM
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It's more openly corporate

Notschmendrake posted...
at least it shouldnt be able to get any worse.
Maybe other music industries will get just as bad and kpop is just the beginning

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Lokarin
09/19/21 9:30:01 AM
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I don't get pop in general

Jesus, baby
BAABY, jeeeesus

baby baby baby, loves you like jeeesus

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Veedrock-
09/19/21 9:35:10 AM
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Ok boomer.

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Notschmendrake
09/19/21 9:41:20 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
I still don't get Kpop. Jpop is way better.

it is way better

which is to say it is 1% less soulless
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Notschmendrake
09/19/21 9:43:09 AM
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JOExHIGASHI posted...
It's more openly corporate

Maybe other music industries will get just as bad and kpop is just the beginning

hopefully i will be dead by then
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Judgmenl
09/19/21 9:45:02 AM
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Notschmendrake posted...
which is to say it is 1% less soulless
You have not listened to the right jpop.
Buddy, a song like usseewa is not soulless.

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Notschmendrake
09/19/21 9:46:08 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
You have not listened to the right jpop.

and I'm gonna spare my ears

so i guess i never will. aw shucks
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Judgmenl
09/19/21 9:49:37 AM
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Notschmendrake posted...
and I'm gonna spare my ears

so i guess i never will. aw shucks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3b-RXtz4w
A song about how awful modern work culture is.

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Notschmendrake
09/19/21 9:56:29 AM
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cool. i definitely wont click on that, but thanks.
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Notschmendrake
09/19/21 9:57:29 AM
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also, anti work culture angst? that is something i could not relate to less. i havent worked in years.
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Far-Queue
09/19/21 10:00:39 AM
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Veedrock- posted...
Ok boomer.


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Judgmenl
09/19/21 10:01:41 AM
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Notschmendrake posted...
also, anti work culture angst? that is something i could not relate to less. i havent worked in years.

Veedrock- posted...
Ok boomer.


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Sarcasthma
09/19/21 10:02:32 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3b-RXtz4w
A song about how awful modern work culture is.
That's pop music?

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Judgmenl
09/19/21 10:02:49 AM
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Wait a second.
That fucking name lmao.
How long has schmen been back?

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adjl
09/19/21 10:08:56 AM
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Because (South) Koreans get all the Seoul they need from their capital.

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Notschmendrake
09/19/21 10:32:30 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
Wait a second.
That fucking name lmao.
How long has schmen been back?

people here really cannot read can they? took you this long to actually read my name and you STILL managed to read it wrong.
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Sarcasthma
09/19/21 10:41:40 AM
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Quick, someone make a Notnotschmendrake account.

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Revelation34
09/19/21 10:53:40 AM
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Judgmenl posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qp3b-RXtz4w
A song about how awful modern work culture is.


That thumbnail looks awful and will make me never listen to it.
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Hop103
09/19/21 10:59:17 AM
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The way K-Pop idols are produced is unsettling, abusive, and has no room for error. J-Pop on the other hand allows the idols to grow more organically for the most part with goofy and childish errors and mishaps being part of the fun, if you've seen Vtubers or radio shows with IRL idols, you see the charm in these errors and mishaps.
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Jen0125
09/19/21 3:17:36 PM
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There are lots of kpop songs that have depth.

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Zareth
09/19/21 3:22:21 PM
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Because they grow them in a vat in underground corporate warehouses

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wwinterj25
09/19/21 3:43:22 PM
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Not a fan of most pop tbf.

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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 10:30:55 AM
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Hop103 posted...
The way K-Pop idols are produced is unsettling, abusive, and has no room for error. J-Pop on the other hand allows the idols to grow more organically for the most part with goofy and childish errors and mishaps being part of the fun, if you've seen Vtubers or radio shows with IRL idols, you see the charm in these errors and mishaps.

I don't see the charm, but hey, I'm willing to admit that Jpop is 1% less soulless than Kpop

Jen0125 posted...
There are lots of kpop songs that have depth.

sure. All the depth of a half inch puddle puddle after a day in the Arizona sun

Zareth posted...
Because they grow them in a vat in underground corporate warehouses

i would have said they build them in underground corporate warehouses, since they are more like mass produced machines than cloned humans.

wwinterj25 posted...
Not a fan of most pop tbf.

Its all pretty bad, but Kpop is taking it to a whole new level of cashgrabbing goodness
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Blighboy
09/20/21 12:11:32 PM
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It's spelled ksoda

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Jen0125
09/20/21 12:48:42 PM
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OP what song do you consider to have depth or soul

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adjl
09/20/21 2:10:22 PM
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Notschmendrake posted...
sure. All the depth of a half inch puddle puddle after a day in the Arizona sun

Wouldn't a half inch puddle have the same amount of depth regardless of whose sun it exists in?

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DevilSummoner1
09/20/21 3:13:11 PM
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Jen0125 posted...
OP what song do you consider to have depth or soul

something terrible probably

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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 3:39:21 PM
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adjl posted...
Wouldn't a half inch puddle have the same amount of depth regardless of whose sun it exists in?

after a day in the arizona sun you think theres still gonna be a puddle? congrats, your pedantry killed the fun again.

Jen0125 posted...
OP what song do you consider to have depth or soul

I listened to 2 this morning. Son house, and Blind Willie Johnson

please try to tell me how these 2 blues gods have no soul, and how some bland, corporate owned pop songs are chock full of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdgrQoZHnNY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNj2BXW852g

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adjl
09/20/21 3:43:33 PM
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Notschmendrake posted...
after a day in the arizona sun you think theres still gonna be a puddle? congrats, your pedantry killed the fun again.

It wasn't immediately apparent whether you meant a puddle that was half an inch deep after a day of Arizonan sun, or a puddle which began with half an inch and was then subjected to the sun. In the latter case, that would indeed be shallower than half an inch.

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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 3:44:10 PM
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congrats, your pedantry killed the fun again.

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wolfy42
09/20/21 3:44:50 PM
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Notschmendrake posted...
after a day in the arizona sun you think theres still gonna be a puddle? congrats, your pedantry killed the fun again.

I listened to 2 this morning. Son house, and Blind Willie Johnson

please try to tell me how these 2 blues gods have no soul, and how some bland, corporate owned pop songs are chock full of it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdgrQoZHnNY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNj2BXW852g


First dude sounds like a dying cat.

Second dude still isn't great but probably human and alive.

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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 3:45:43 PM
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wolfy42 posted...
First dude sounds like a dying cat.

Second dude still isn't great but probably human and alive.

not at all surprised to hear ya say that bud.

you have to actually have a soul to feel things ;)
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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 3:49:36 PM
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also, "second dude" died blind and penniless in the burned down remains of his childhood home, so no, not alive.

still, his music will outlive our species,

I guess it is sort of comforting that nobody is rushing to send a gold plated kpop album out of the solar system as a reminder to the universe that we existed.
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Jen0125
09/20/21 4:52:28 PM
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Okay so literal blues music? Lol wow really groundbreaking there

Only blues music can have soul or depth, you heard it here folks

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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 5:26:56 PM
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Putting a lot of words into my mouth there. I never said only the blues has depth or soul. you asked for examples, so I provided 2 I listened to recently, and yes, they did happen to be blues. its what i was in the mood for this morning.

Sorry the music you like is just corporate produced garbage. I didnt do that. Its nothing personal.
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SunWuKung420
09/20/21 5:43:40 PM
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It's manufactured, like wonder bread. All fluff, no substance.

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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 5:50:15 PM
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Music usually tries to convey the emotion of the person performing and/or writing it.

kpop sounds like nothing because the emotion of the person performing and/or writing it is just "give us your $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$"
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Jen0125
09/20/21 6:19:03 PM
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You don't seem to really have listened to a lot of kpop so you can remain in your ignorance I guess lol

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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 6:43:58 PM
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ROFL

actually pretending that kpop exists for any other reason than to pump money out of ignorant consumers and that OTHER people are ignorant for not buying in with you

its garbage music, pure and simple, but you can keep pretending it exists for any reason other than to part dummies with their munnies i guess lol
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Far-Queue
09/20/21 6:56:28 PM
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Typical tired responses from someone aging out of progress in music.

Go drink some metamucil and take a nap grandpa lmao

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Blighboy
09/20/21 6:56:50 PM
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Notschmendrake posted...
actually pretending that kpop exists for any other reason than to pump money out of ignorant consumers and that OTHER people are ignorant for not buying in with you
Oh honey, that's all music

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Jen0125
09/20/21 7:03:13 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Oh honey, that's all music

Right??

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DevilSummoner1
09/20/21 7:06:49 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Typical tired responses from someone aging out of progress in music.

exactly

let's move on

yes next topic please

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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 7:24:34 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
Typical tired responses from someone aging out of progress in music.

Go drink some metamucil and take a nap grandpa lmao

first of all, I'm female which I've told you many times. it would be grandma, if i wasnt probably younger than you

also "progress music" is evidently just throwing money at a soulless corporation for soulless music?

thats rich. almost as rich as the people taking advantage of your ignorance ;)
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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 7:25:33 PM
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Blighboy posted...
Oh honey, that's all music

if the musicians you listen to make music exclusively for the purpose of stacking paper then you have a pretty sad taste in music.
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adjl
09/20/21 7:41:03 PM
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Musicians that don't try to make money with their music generally don't make very much music. That's not to say that commercially successful musicians can't also be dedicated to the art, nor that pop isn't generally formulaic and sterile because it's trying to tick boxes on an algorithm, but the romanticized "starving artist" thing rarely goes much of anywhere.

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Notschmendrake
09/20/21 7:47:24 PM
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adjl posted...
Musicians that don't try to make money with their music generally don't make very much music. That's not to say that commercially successful musicians can't also be dedicated to the art, nor that pop isn't generally formulaic and sterile because it's trying to tick boxes on an algorithm, but the romanticized "starving artist" thing rarely goes much of anywhere.

you really just dont read, or you pick out what you actually want to retain, dont you?

let me bold the relevant text for you

Notschmendrake posted...
to make music exclusively for the purpose of stacking paper

youre welcome hon ;)
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Judgmenl
09/20/21 10:04:57 PM
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Pretty sure most utaite completely shit on this theory.

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