Current Events > So sick and tired of seeing ivermectin prescriptions

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 5:09:44 PM
#51:


TheGoldenEel posted...
Thing is people are not keeping their options open

they are blindly adhering to ivermectin because its what the grifters they listen are pushing despite no real evidence it works

there are other cheap drugs that have shown promise and no one cares about those for some reason

but also, theres a mother fucking vaccine readily available in the US

https://www.wired.com/story/better-data-on-ivermectin-is-finally-on-its-way/
all Im saying really is that having more options for cures and basically not needing to take shots every 6 months due to these cures turning out to be successful is better
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TheGoldenEel
09/25/21 5:22:35 PM
#52:


ROOTFayth posted...
all Im saying really is that having more options for cures and basically not needing to take shots every 6 months due to these cures turning out to be successful is better
Ok but suggesting people literally ingest poison even though it does not help is not better

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 5:26:08 PM
#53:


TheGoldenEel posted...
Ok but suggesting people literally ingest poison even though it does not help is not better
yeah of course, ingesting poison is usually not recommended
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Oneform
09/25/21 5:26:16 PM
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If it bothers the TC so much then don't go looking for people who have had it prescribed.

Amazing that people go looking for things that upset them. If there is a source for the information then try to frequent it less. Not hard to do.

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Irony
09/25/21 5:26:54 PM
#55:


Oneform posted...
If it bothers the TC so much then don't go looking for people who have had it prescribed.

Amazing that people go looking for things that upset them. If there is a source for the information then try to frequent it less. Not hard to do.
Whose alt

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 5:27:55 PM
#56:


Irony posted...
Whose alt
user since 2009 lol
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Ruvan22
09/25/21 5:28:22 PM
#57:


hockeybub89 posted...
This is why I don't to get the people who say we should let anti-vaxxers fuck off and die. It requires gross negligence and a total abandonment of ethics to allow them to do that. Better for anti-vaxxers to think everyone in medicine is a two-faced piece of shit than to confirm it.

That's a really good point, hadn't thought of it!
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Irony
09/25/21 5:29:17 PM
#58:


ROOTFayth posted...
user since 2009 lol
And less than 600 karma which means main modded

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Ruvan22
09/25/21 5:30:29 PM
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Oneform posted...
If it bothers the TC so much then don't go looking for people who have had it prescribed.

Amazing that people go looking for things that upset them. If there is a source for the information then try to frequent it less. Not hard to do.

He's a pharmacist? He doesn't go looking.. they come to him?
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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 5:30:39 PM
#60:


Irony posted...
And less than 600 karma which means main modded
or that he doesnt post much at all
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Ruvan22
09/25/21 5:31:24 PM
#61:


ROOTFayth posted...
all Im saying really is that having more options for cures and basically not needing to take shots every 6 months due to these cures turning out to be successful is better

"Having more options" doesn't mean "Let them take whatever they want", right? Or are you saying if people wanted to try injecting bleach we should let them?
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Irony
09/25/21 5:31:35 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
or that he doesnt post much at all
No, shitposters don't just not post much

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Ruvan22
09/25/21 5:32:34 PM
#63:


ROOTFayth posted...
I dont understand why everyone gets their panties in a bunch about a known medication rofl, lets just do trials? if it works like they say it does then yay? we got nothing to lose really

I guess you missed or ignored my post - we DO have something to lose. IF those people got the vaccine instead of chasing Ivermectin we'd literally have LESS DEAD PEOPLE.
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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 5:32:35 PM
#64:


Irony posted...
No, shitposters don't just not post much
pardon me your majesty
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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 5:33:14 PM
#65:


Ruvan22 posted...
I guess you missed or ignored my post - we DO have something to lose. IF those people got the vaccine instead of chasing Ivermectin we'd literally have LESS DEAD PEOPLE.
but they wont, so having a cure that works will help
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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 5:34:38 PM
#66:


Ruvan22 posted...
"Having more options" doesn't mean "Let them take whatever they want", right? Or are you saying if people wanted to try injecting bleach we should let them?
I honestly cant understand how you managed to get to this conclusion, Im saying having potent anti virals would be a good thing for human beings and you ask me if that means people should inject bleach, like what?
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Oneform
09/25/21 5:51:33 PM
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ROOTFayth posted...
or that he doesnt post much at all

Correct, I don't post that much and didn't use the site for many years.

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One_Day_Remains
09/25/21 6:01:01 PM
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Yeah I'm totally convinced someone with a cringeworthy ass signature like that totally owned that account from the outset
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VipaGTS
09/25/21 6:02:38 PM
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There is a study tho! Martha on Facebook said it totally works. Thats where I researched it.

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Trumble
09/25/21 6:04:03 PM
#70:


ROOTFayth posted...
I honestly cant understand how you managed to get to this conclusion, Im saying having potent anti virals would be a good thing for human beings and you ask me if that means people should inject bleach, like what?

Because you are doing this while promoting a substance that, while yes, less prone to the kind of side effects bleach might have, is equally ineffective.

Yes, having potent antivirals would be good (though it's somewhat unlikely we'll ever see a single one that covers all/most viruses similar to antibiotics). Ivermectin isn't one.

Yes, proper research should be done into things that have potential. That's already been done for Ivermectin and found that it is not effective.

The fact that some random video on Youtube that cherry-picks data and/or relies on discredited studies, or exploits the average person's lack of understanding of proper scientific context, claims otherwise, doesn't make a shred of difference.

Grow the fuck up.

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DrizztLink
09/25/21 6:05:39 PM
#71:


Trumble posted...
Grow the fuck up.
With an Ivermectin regimen?

Bad news.

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Trumble
09/25/21 6:06:29 PM
#72:


DrizztLink posted...
With an Ivermectin regimen?

Bad news.
I fucking lol'd

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 6:06:31 PM
#73:


Trumble posted...
Because you are doing this while promoting a substance that, while yes, less prone to the kind of side effects bleach might have, is equally ineffective.

Yes, having potent antivirals would be good (though it's somewhat unlikely we'll ever see a single one that covers all/most viruses similar to antibiotics). Ivermectin isn't one.

Yes, proper research should be done into things that have potential. That's already been done for Ivermectin and found that it is not effective.

The fact that some random video on Youtube that cherry-picks data and/or relies on discredited studies, or exploits the average person's lack of understanding of proper scientific context, claims otherwise, doesn't make a shred of difference.

Grow the fuck up.
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yemmy
09/25/21 6:48:52 PM
#74:


One_Day_Remains posted...
Do you just post random words to see them appear on the screen

And another person that thinks they are smarter than a real doctor because they browse Reddit and gamefaqs 6 hours a day

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Trumble
09/25/21 6:50:09 PM
#75:


ROOTFayth posted...
stop being so weird about this man
Calling out blatant misinformation for what it is, is not "being weird".

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MI4 REAL
09/25/21 6:52:35 PM
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Isn't a virus a parasite?

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Tyranthraxus
09/25/21 6:53:58 PM
#77:


MI4 REAL posted...
Isn't a virus a parasite?
Parasites are animals.

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MI4 REAL
09/25/21 6:55:20 PM
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Follow the science? So 50 years and a nobel prize isn't enough?

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 6:58:21 PM
#79:


Trumble posted...
Calling out blatant misinformation for what it is, is not "being weird".
yes dude youre being weird, Im talking about not outright dismissing potential solutions and waiting for conclusive evidence from ongoing trials, the only sure thing right now is that there is no proven evidence, it may help or it may not, its still
unclear, so no I wouldnt advise people to take the version/dose for animals and just go with the vaccine for now
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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/25/21 6:59:08 PM
#80:


MI4 REAL posted...
Follow the science? So 50 years and a nobel prize isn't enough?

Shut the fuck up. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't speak.

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 7:02:56 PM
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oh by the way, 89% vaccination over here, cases still going up, deaths going up, we do need antivirals
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Trumble
09/25/21 7:13:49 PM
#82:


ROOTFayth posted...
oh by the way, 89% vaccination over here, cases still going up, deaths going up, we do need antivirals
Which changes nothing about the fact that Ivermectin, which you are championing, has been explicitly proven ineffective against covid. Now shut the fuck up.

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 7:15:26 PM
#83:


Trumble posted...
Which changes nothing about the fact that Ivermectin, which you are championing, has been explicitly proven ineffective against covid. Now shut the fuck up.
inconclusive evidence of effectiveness =/= explicitly proven ineffective

what do you do btw, what field do you work in?
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MI4 REAL
09/25/21 7:16:19 PM
#84:


Trumble posted...
Which changes nothing about the fact that Ivermectin, which you are championing, has been explicitly proven ineffective against covid. Now shut the fuck up.

That is called an ad hominem attack.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/25/21 7:27:46 PM
#85:


ROOTFayth posted...
inconclusive evidence of effectiveness =/= explicitly proven ineffective

You're pretending like there haven't been any studies on it. There have been, and they have shown no effect.

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kingdrake2
09/25/21 7:28:24 PM
#86:


Trumble posted...
Betadine.

And yep, it's just as bogus.


before betadine they wanted people to inhale hydrogen peroxide through a nebulizer to kill covid (it has no effects other than cleaning wounds or hair coloring) more harm etc.
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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 7:29:34 PM
#87:


WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
You're pretending like there haven't been any studies on it. There have been, and they have shown no effect.
no not true, I read about it this afternoon, it said that there were conflicting results, it never said they had no effects, some did well, some didn't but ultimately the samples weren't enough to get conclusive evidence, which is why larger trials are ongoing at this very moment, it may or may not work, that's the state of it at the moment and I have no fuckin idea why any of this would make anyone upset
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MI4 REAL
09/25/21 7:29:42 PM
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So why do you care about one trying ivermectin if you don't care that people die from Darwinism?

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Medussa
09/25/21 7:30:47 PM
#89:


WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
You're pretending like there haven't been any studies on it. There have been, and they have shown no effect.

including by the people who stand to profit by its use.

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/25/21 7:31:16 PM
#90:


ROOTFayth posted...
no not true, I read about it this afternoon, it said that there were conflicting results, it never said they had no effects, some did well, some didn't but ultimately the samples weren't enough to get conclusive evidence, which is why larger trials are ongoing at this very moment, it may or may not work, that's the state of it at the moment and I have no fuckin idea why any of this would make anyone upset

The only "conflicting" results are known the be fraudulent.

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 7:34:07 PM
#91:


WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
The only "conflicting" results are known the be fraudulent.
it was ONE study that was suspected of being fraudulent, some others have shown results but it said sample was too small thus not enough, which is why we're having more trials, why are people getting upset that we have scientists working on antivirals, wtf?

it's the main reason we're in deep shit right now is because we were not ready for a pandemic because research on antivirals had always been lacking, you know it's possible to both want an effective vaccine and effective treatment? lol
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Irony
09/25/21 7:36:18 PM
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You guys are still arguing with someone that eats horse paste?

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/25/21 7:37:27 PM
#93:


ROOTFayth posted...
it was ONE study that was suspected of being fraudulent, some others have shown results but it said sample was too small thus not enough, which is why we're having more trials, why are people getting upset that we have scientists working on antivirals, wtf?

it's the main reason we're in deep shit right now is because we were not ready for a pandemic because research on antivirals had always been lacking, you know it's possible to both want an effective vaccine and effective treatment? lol

You can read my topic that lays some of it out. The only studies showing a positive therapeutic effect have been shown to be unreliable. Also, it's not an anti-viral.

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 7:38:31 PM
#94:


WeeWeiWiiWie posted...
You can read my topic that lays some of it out. The only studies showing a positive therapeutic effect have been shown to be unreliable. Also, it's not an anti-viral.
yes I have read it already, you might want to explain why there are still ongoing larger trials then if it's undeniably proven
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spikethedevil
09/25/21 7:49:39 PM
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Why would a dewormer work on a virus?

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Irony
09/25/21 7:51:40 PM
#96:


spikethedevil posted...
Why would a dewormer work on a virus?
Tbf chemo works on cancer and it's straight up just a concoction of different poisons

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 7:51:46 PM
#97:


spikethedevil posted...
Why would a dewormer work on a virus?
well plenty of medications have several uses, I have no idea why specifically it would work though, didn't really research it nearly enough, nor am I really interested in using it, would just be nice to have some sort of viable option if I'm a breakthrough case who gets it bad
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TheGoldenEel
09/25/21 7:57:49 PM
#98:


ROOTFayth posted...
yes dude youre being weird, Im talking about not outright dismissing potential solutions and waiting for conclusive evidence from ongoing trials, the only sure thing right now is that there is no proven evidence, it may help or it may not, its still
unclear, so no I wouldnt advise people to take the version/dose for animals and just go with the vaccine for now
Thing is, like that article I posted says, there are other drugs that are promising, and have proven evidence, but no one is pushing those

ivermectin, a drug that is not promising, and does not have proven evidence, is being pushed

its blatantly political

if it was about finding a treatment first of all vaccines would be being pushed, but second of all the drugs that actually do work would be being pushed front and center. But theyre not

the only reason anyone is pushing ivermectin is to create some us against big pharma narrative, which doesnt even make any fucking sense bc ivermectin is still made by big pharma

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WeeWeiWiiWie
09/25/21 8:00:52 PM
#99:


ROOTFayth posted...
yes I have read it already, you might want to explain why there are still ongoing larger trials then if it's undeniably proven

Because there's enough public interest to justify knocking it into its grave. Same reason hydroxychloroquine got so much attention. With a drug with no prior expectation of having the correct mechanism of action, they never spend so much time iterating on negative results.

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ROOTFayth
09/25/21 8:04:37 PM
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I know ivermectin has been pushed by the extremists anti vaxxers as a miracle cure and I'm not buying into it, my stance really is just that we shouldn't dismiss it on the basis that it's used as an anti-dewormer for animals and used for rosacea for humans, we should wait for the trials to end and then if it's effective, doctors get to prescribe it and we're good

the only thing we know about it is that we don't know if it works, that's it, nobody here can claim otherwise, let the scientists do their job, in the meantime just suggest that it's unproven and not recommended and that covid-19 vaccine although far from perfect is the best we have
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