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LinkPizza
10/06/21 3:11:13 PM
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Like why? They say they are offering a service. Sure they are A shitty one that the world can do without But why defend a scalper and say its ok?
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Krazy_Kirby
10/06/21 3:14:51 PM
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because it's not an essential item
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LinkPizza
10/06/21 3:15:59 PM
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Theyre still scummy and shitty people
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adjl
10/06/21 3:24:33 PM
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Usually because they're somewhat inclined to do it themselves (but haven't yet, for whatever reason) and find it easier to defend the practice than to come to terms with how much of an opportunistic dink that makes them.

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Lokarin
10/06/21 3:26:31 PM
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It's not about offering a service... Idon't defend scalpers because they resell, I defend scalpers cuz they have the money to buy it in the first place... like normal economy.


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adjl
10/06/21 3:30:23 PM
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Lokarin posted...
It's not about offering a service...

Exactly. It's about charging a premium despite not offering a service.

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Lokarin
10/06/21 3:32:44 PM
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adjl posted...
Exactly. It's about charging a premium despite not offering a service.

that's not what I meant.

If they are reselling they are being scummy, but I don't have a problem with something being weird and buying 10000 PS5s

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ReturnOfFa
10/06/21 3:37:13 PM
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Yeah, there should be protections in place to prevent the practice.

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LinkPizza
10/06/21 3:49:02 PM
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adjl posted...
Exactly. It's about charging a premium despite not offering a service.

Basically this

Lokarin posted...
If they are reselling they are being scummy, but I don't have a problem with something being weird and buying 10000 PS5s

The problem is that they are only buying them to sell them at a high price that nobody should buy them at, or have to buy them at

ReturnOfFa posted...
Yeah, there should be protections in place to prevent the practice.

I really wish there were
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Lokarin
10/06/21 3:51:02 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
The problem is that they are only buying them to sell them at a high price that nobody should buy them at, or have to buy them at

but if anyone else bought from the scalper at an inflated price they're the ones being dumb

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Zareth
10/06/21 4:04:32 PM
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Because capitalism

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LinkPizza
10/06/21 4:11:22 PM
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Lokarin posted...
but if anyone else bought from the scalper at an inflated price they're the ones being dumb

True. Except scalpers still shouldnt buy them in the first place
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Clench281
10/06/21 4:13:56 PM
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Lokarin posted...
but if anyone else bought from the scalper at an inflated price they're the ones being dumb

They're willing to pay a premium in order to get something in high demand, where otherwise it would basically be a lottery. Sounds like economics working as intended.

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ReggieTheReckless
10/06/21 4:27:57 PM
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Ticket scalping is illegal in like 50% of us states

Electronics scalping should also be illegal
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Dmess85
10/06/21 4:30:28 PM
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Why do they call it scalping?

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Dmess85
10/06/21 4:30:47 PM
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Also, who is "people" that are defending scalpers?

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BlackScythe0
10/06/21 4:31:46 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
Like why? They say they are offering a service. Sure they are A shitty one that the world can do without But why defend a scalper and say its ok?

Who defends scalpers? There is absolutely nothing to defend. They artificially create a supply shortage and drive prices up in ways that don't benefit creators and harm consumers. There isn't a single positive aspect to scalpers, they all deserve to get knee capped.
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Arcturusisnow
10/06/21 4:33:21 PM
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Lokarin posted...
that's not what I meant.

If they are reselling they are being scummy, but I don't have a problem with something being weird and buying 10000 PS5s
Are you really that ignorant as to think that there is ANY possible reason other than reselling for a huge profit that a person would need more than 2 PS5s?
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Arcturusisnow
10/06/21 4:34:37 PM
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Clench281 posted...
They're willing to pay a premium in order to get something in high demand, where otherwise it would basically be a lottery. Sounds like economics working as intended.
Sounds like shitty people being shitty to me. Scalpers are dipshits that deserve multiple kicks to the nuts
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Lokarin
10/06/21 4:35:15 PM
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Arcturusisnow posted...
Are you really that ignorant as to think that there is ANY possible reason other than reselling for a huge profit that a person would need more than 2 PS5s?

No, I just think this is 2 separate issues - the buying and the selling; I don't have a problem with the buying part

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BlackScythe0
10/06/21 4:37:24 PM
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Lokarin posted...
No, I just think this is 2 separate issues - the buying and the selling; I don't have a problem with the buying part
Playing devils advocate is typically only done to piss someone off. Your "just wanna collect 10k" is absurd.
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Lokarin
10/06/21 4:38:35 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Your "just wanna collect 10k" is absurd.

bruh, of course it's absurd - It was just a shorthand

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BlackScythe0
10/06/21 4:50:02 PM
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Lokarin posted...
bruh, of course it's absurd - It was just a shorthand

But even your position is absurd. Like we weren't short on toilet paper because they weren't making enough. We were short on toilet paper because people were buying it and filling their garage completely full. Or the idiots who went and bought the entire meat department of one store.

People who buy excessively, for personal use, beyond what can be considered remotely rational are problematic and can impact you negatively and it doesn't need to be approved of. I fundamentally disagree with your position.
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LinkPizza
10/06/21 4:56:02 PM
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ReggieTheReckless posted...
Ticket scalping is illegal in like 50% of us states

Electronics scalping should also be illegal

I always wondered why is was illegal for tickets, but not for electronics

Dmess85 posted...
Also, who is "people" that are defending scalpers?

It was like a couple of the APotD board. Mainly one guy who seems to be trolling a bunch. But maybe he really believes what he said. Another person is saying that scalpers are part of the reason for the shortage. I cant remember how they feel about scalpers without looking, though

BlackScythe0 posted...
Who defends scalpers? There is absolutely nothing to defend. They artificially create a supply shortage and drive prices up in ways that don't benefit creators and harm consumers. There isn't a single positive aspect to scalpers, they all deserve to get knee capped.

They keep saying scalpers arent the reason for the shortage, and that they are providing a service selling systems to people who could get them Even though the scalpers are part of the reason why people couldnt get them

Arcturusisnow posted...
Sounds like shitty people being shitty to me. Scalpers are dipshits that deserve multiple kicks to the nuts

I agree I mentioned that I hoped that they got stuck with all the PS5 and had to sell them at a loss, if they could even sell them at all. And thats what got the other person started

Lokarin posted...
No, I just think this is 2 separate issues - the buying and the selling; I don't have a problem with the buying part

If you just buy it, thats not scalping. Its when you buy and sell. I dont care about someone buying. But scalping is both

BlackScythe0 posted...
Like we weren't short on toilet paper because they weren't making enough. We were short on toilet paper because people were buying it and filling their garage completely full. Or the idiots who went and bought the entire meat department of one store.

And even some of those people were trying to scalp stuff. That was ridiculous
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BlackScythe0
10/06/21 5:00:46 PM
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They keep saying scalpers arent the reason for the shortage, and that they are providing a service selling systems to people who could get them Even though the scalpers are part of the reason why people couldnt get them

Is that people defending them? Or is that scalpers trying to justify themselves? I'm unable to understand how a person can see a scalper as providing a service. They don't, how like the PS5 should work is you buy one and you're out of the market and others have their opportunity when the limited supply comes. However they're not getting out of the market, they keep buying all the retail supply up and people who aren't willing to pay their bull shit can't get one because they won't stop gobbling up the supply.
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Smiffwilm
10/06/21 5:01:31 PM
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I've noticed when it comes to horrible people, they have a tendency to defend their own kind.

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LinkPizza
10/06/21 5:05:25 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
Is that people defending them? Or is that scalpers trying to justify themselves? I'm unable to understand how a person can see a scalper as providing a service. They don't, how like the PS5 should work is you buy one and you're out of the market and others have their opportunity when the limited supply comes. However they're not getting out of the market, they keep buying all the retail supply up and people who aren't willing to pay their bull shit can't get one because they won't stop gobbling up the supply.

Earlier, I said the reason theyre defending them is probably because they were a scalper. And they said they are defending them because they had common sense. So Idk

And I explained that. They called me a troll and a Facebook grandma for saying that

Smiffwilm posted...
I've noticed when it comes to horrible people, they have a tendency to defend their own kind.

Yeah. This is true That way, they wont look as bad
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wwinterj25
10/06/21 5:07:18 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
But why defend a scalper and say its ok?

Buying and then selling if for profit is fine. However scalpers buy things in order to make profit and I agree it's not acceptable. I don't see why it would be.

Dmess85 posted...
Why do they call it scalping?

I guess it's because a bounty was put on someone head at some point so the sort after person got their scalp sold for a high amount once scalped. Could be wrong.

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Revelation34
10/06/21 5:11:57 PM
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Lokarin posted...


that's not what I meant.

If they are reselling they are being scummy, but I don't have a problem with something being weird and buying 10000 PS5s


That is literally the definition of a scalper.

Dmess85 posted...
Also, who is "people" that are defending scalpers?


So far 3 people on this thread.
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ssj4supervegeta
10/06/21 5:43:46 PM
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Scalpers are pieces of shit but it's really on the retailers to stop it.

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LinkPizza
10/06/21 5:46:53 PM
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ssj4supervegeta posted...
Scalpers are pieces of shit but it's really on the retailers to stop it.

It could be hard for them, too In some cases. When someone buys one, they may not know that person is buying it to sell it
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Lokarin
10/06/21 5:51:21 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
That is literally the definition of a scalper.

So far 3 people on this thread.

well, 2 and a half

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Clench281
10/06/21 5:58:44 PM
#33:


LinkPizza posted...
It could be hard for them, too In some cases. When someone buys one, they may not know that person is buying it to sell it

Easy solution. Start off by selling them for $1000 at retail. Reduce price over time as sales slow.

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LinkPizza
10/06/21 6:01:54 PM
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Clench281 posted...
Easy solution. Start off by selling them for $1000 at retail. Reduce price over time as sales slow.

I mean, that just makes the stores as bad as the scalpers. Well, price-wise
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SaltyAndSweet
10/06/21 6:04:12 PM
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I dont think there is anything morally wrong with people buying popular luxury items that are limited in supply and privately selling them for a profit

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BlackScythe0
10/06/21 6:09:14 PM
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SaltyAndSweet posted...
I dont think there is anything morally wrong with people buying popular luxury items that are limited in supply and privately selling them for a profit

I spit on you
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11110111011
10/06/21 6:09:22 PM
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More than half of the people in the world are middle men. A scalper is no different.

Blame the companies that don't make enough of something.
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BlackScythe0
10/06/21 6:11:19 PM
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11110111011 posted...
More than half of the people in the world are middle men. A scalper is no different.

Blame the companies that don't make enough of something.
Ah yes, companies should make far more than there is demand for it so they can beat scalpers and take a loss rather than scalpers just getting their legs broken.
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Revelation34
10/06/21 6:23:55 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...

Ah yes, companies should make far more than there is demand for it so they can beat scalpers and take a loss rather than scalpers just getting their legs broken.


The companies purposely manufacture less than the demand.
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ArvTheGreat
10/06/21 6:27:27 PM
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its because the ones that defend it are the ones that secretly do it. ask them how they like their internet prices and they'll be singing a different tune

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LinkPizza
10/06/21 6:30:03 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
The companies purposely manufacture less than the demand.

Only sometimes. But not all the time
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BlackScythe0
10/06/21 6:30:46 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
The companies purposely manufacture less than the demand.

Almost never.
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SaltyAndSweet
10/06/21 6:34:22 PM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
I spit on you

I think it is morally wrong to spit on people over a ideological disagreement

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ArvTheGreat
10/06/21 6:37:11 PM
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arvs question is the people scalping them are trying to make it easier for the public to get them. but how would it have not been easier for people before? 2 people go to a store theres only 1 ps5. one of them has the sole intention of making a buck while the other one has the sole intention of playing it. how is the scalper giving that person a good service. after 1 he just wasted gas to get their so scalpers hurt the environment and contribute to global warming

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BlackScythe0
10/06/21 6:40:28 PM
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SaltyAndSweet posted...
I think it is morally wrong to spit on people over a ideological disagreement

But you were the one who was morally wrong.
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Clench281
10/06/21 6:42:28 PM
#46:


ArvTheGreat posted...
arvs question is the people scalping them are trying to make it easier for the public to get them. but how would it have not been easier for people before? 2 people go to a store theres only 1 ps5. one of them has the sole intention of making a buck while the other one has the sole intention of playing it. how is the scalper giving that person a good service. after 1 he just wasted gas to get their so scalpers hurt the environment and contribute to global warming

I don't think anyone is arguing they make it easier for EVERYBODY to get them.

They make it easier for people who are willing to pay a premium (to be first to access something in high demand) do so. The alternative being a crapshoot for all.

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LinkPizza
10/06/21 6:53:02 PM
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ArvTheGreat posted...
arvs question is the people scalping them are trying to make it easier for the public to get them. but how would it have not been easier for people before? 2 people go to a store theres only 1 ps5. one of them has the sole intention of making a buck while the other one has the sole intention of playing it. how is the scalper giving that person a good service. after 1 he just wasted gas to get their so scalpers hurt the environment and contribute to global warming

Thats what I said. Its not easier. You have now made it more expensive, and they could have had it quicker But scalpers disagree
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Lokarin
10/06/21 6:55:21 PM
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Thing is, if there are goobers willing to buy from a scalper then it's the store's fault for not charging more in the first place

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LinkPizza
10/06/21 6:56:23 PM
#49:


Lokarin posted...
Thing is, if there are goobers willing to buy from a scalper then it's the store's fault for not charging more in the first place

What do you mean by that, Lok? Because that sentence kind of sounds ridiculous Its all over the place
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Lokarin
10/06/21 6:57:44 PM
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LinkPizza posted...
What do you mean by that, Lok? Because that sentence kind of sounds ridiculous Its all over the place

I mean, like, if a product is $400 and a scalper is flipping them for $500... the store shoulda been $550'in that shit

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