Current Events > Katie Couric says she edited out RGB comments about kneeling for the anthem

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https://www.mediaite.com/sports/katie-couric-exposes-rbg-after-protecting-her-from-scolding-national-anthem-kneelers-like-colin-kaepernick/

Ruth Bader Ginsburg is often recognized and remembered as a symbol for progressive change, but the late Supreme Court justices opinion of kneeling during the national anthem was socially conservative.

According to Katie Couric, she eliminated some of Ginsburgs quotes regarding the national anthem during a 2016 interview, to protect the Supreme Court justice. While she protected Ginsburg in 2016, Couric decided to publish the controversial comments in her memoir more than five years after the interview. The New York Post obtained an excerpt from the upcoming book.

In 2016, Couric omitted Ginsburgs claim that not standing for the anthem depicts a contempt for a government that has made it possible for their parents and grandparents to live a decent life Which they probably could not have lived in the places they came from as they became older, they realize that this was youthful folly. And thats why education is important, Ginsburg told Couric. I think its a terrible thing to do, but I wouldnt lock a person up for doing it. I would point out how ridiculous it seems to me to do such an act.

Courics memoir Going There is set to be released on Oct. 26. In the book, Couric states Ginsburg, who was 83 at the time, was elderly and probably didnt fully understand the question, pertaining to the NFL and players choosing to kneel.

While Ginsburg was in her 80s, she was still able-minded enough to serve as a Supreme Court justice for an additional four years after being asked the question Couric claims she may not have understood.

Couric did, however, publish some of Ginsburgs thoughts on kneeling during the national anthem, which included quotes about the form of protest being dumb and disrespectful.
Colin Kaepernick became the first high-profile athlete to kneel during the national anthem in 2016, shortly before Courics interview with Ginsburg. The action, which was meant to protest social injustices, has been adopted by thousands of other athletes at various times in recent years.

Lot going on here


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protect your idols

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None of these people are progressive icons. She volunteered to be an unelected queen in robes passing judgment on everyone's rights and all of the members of the court agree on most things, regardless of the terrible consequences for workers, consumers, voters, etc.

She's also ran in elite circles almost her entire life and is over 80. There's essentially no one in those categories that has good views on everything.

But Couric felt she had to protect the liberal feminist icon on so many people's coffee mugs and t-shirts.

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Time to cancel her!

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its almost like white women are still white after all hmmmmmm.........

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A lady born in the 30s had a weird reverence for a piece of cloth? No way! Couric clearly has no journalistic integrity though.

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Ruth Gader Binsburg

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Jagr_68 posted...

Ruth Gader Binsburg

Lmao I didn't spot that.

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Disappointing, but not surprising. Still, she was far better than the sycophant that Trump replaced her with.

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Couric's full of shit-- 'she was old, she didn't know what she was saying' is blatant BS when you read RBG's quote. She knew what she was saying-- it just isn't progressive enough for Couric's tastes.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Time to cancel her!

So you're a fan of hers now?
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garan posted...

Couric's full of shit-- 'she was old, she didn't know what she was saying' is blatant BS when you read RBG's quote. She knew what she was saying-- it just isn't progressive enough for Couric's tastes.

Also, as the article notes: she was a Supreme Court Justice another 4 years after this.

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So now she is calling RBG an idiot too, great job Katie.

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"journalism"

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Damn_Underscore posted...

So now she is calling RBG an idiot too, great job Katie.

Yea I don't think that was wise. Too dumb to understand the question but smart enough be on the Supreme Court?

Eh

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I dont like it and would explain why is an extremely mild negative reaction to a concept.

Fuck RBG

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RBG is the reason we have court full of Republicans. She didn't want to step down because she didn't want black man to pick her replacement.

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Its almost as if people in positions of elite power dont really sympathize with the ordinary masses

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Kneeling for the anthem is one thing I find distasteful. I'm sorry it's gotten to the point where people are the bad guys for defending it.

Even if you say that you're kneeling before the flag to protest the government, you have to know it's symbolic value to other people. The flag to them represents the soldiers that died for freedom, God and country, apple pie, Leave It to Beaver, wild horses, and everything else that people love about this nation or the nation they perceive it to be.

There are individuals out there who say that the American flag and the Confederate flag mean the same thing. Protesting the American flag to them is protesting the flag of oppression. I don't agree with that sentiment. I agree with their right to speak, their right to live free of fear, and their right to protest injustice. But I think the individuals who target the flag, the anthem, or "America" as a concept are aiming for the wrong targets.

It's a brilliant strategy though.

Not from Colin Kaepernick. He's just some football player who needed a distraction after a less-than-stellar season. But for the people who have highlighted and exploited these protests, who have made it a litmus test for one's values, it's an absolutely brilliant way of sewing division. It makes it so that you either believe in America or in the value of Black lives -- you can't believe both.

FortuneCookie posted...

Kneeling for the anthem is one thing I find distasteful. I'm sorry it's gotten to the point where people are the bad guys for defending it.

When has kneeling EVER been a sign of disrespect ?


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cjsdowg posted...

When has kneeling EVER been a sign of disrespect ?

When you're asked to stand.

FortuneCookie posted...

When you're asked to stand.

So nothing other time then this specific situation ? .

Literally no one was ever complained about someone kneeling until now.


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FortuneCookie posted...

Kneeling for the anthem is one thing I find distasteful. I'm sorry it's gotten to the point where people are the bad guys for defending it.

Even if you say that you're kneeling before the flag to protest the government, you have to know it's symbolic value to other people. The flag to them represents the soldiers that died for freedom, God and country, apple pie, Leave It to Beaver, wild horses, and everything else that people love about this nation or the nation they perceive it to be.

There are individuals out there who say that the American flag and the Confederate flag mean the same thing. Protesting the American flag to them is protesting the flag of oppression. I don't agree with that sentiment. I agree with their right to speak, their right to live free of fear, and their right to protest injustice. But I think the individuals who target the flag, the anthem, or "America" as a concept are aiming for the wrong targets.

It's a brilliant strategy though.

Not from Colin Kaepernick. He's just some football player who needed a distraction after a less-than-stellar season. But for the people who have highlighted and exploited these protests, who have made it a litmus test for one's values, it's an absolutely brilliant way of sewing division. It makes it so that you either believe in America or in the value of Black lives -- you can't believe both.

So some have to respect the symbolic meaning of the flag to people who aren't them, but others don't. The people who view the flag as a symbol of slavery, imperialism, and oppression should take into account what it means for the people who benefitted from all that or it's disrespectful, but not the other way around?

What's the principle behind that conclusion? All that the people who view the flag as a good thing think of when they see the flag waving can also be seen as something taken from someone else. The land (from natives), the wealth (from black people), the troops (lives of brown people all across the world), 50s Americana (women in general) etc. Seems like they're targeting the right symbol for sure.

Division doesn't need to be sewn, American history has already provided it by class, race, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, nationality, etc. Recognizing the division and different perspectives on the same ideas is not what creates the division.

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cjsdowg posted...

So nothing other time then this specific situation ? .

It's almost like it's a situation action.

legendary_zell posted...

So some have to respect the symbolic meaning of the flag to people who aren't them, but others don't. The people who view the flag as a symbol of slavery, imperialism, and oppression should take into account what it means for the people who benefitted from all that or it's disrespectful, but not the other way around?

You can't just uproot an accepted symbolic meaning and substitute a new one in its place.

I shouldn't be saying, "I believe in their cause, but..." I should be saying, "I believe in their cause." I can't do that without an asterisk if you're telling me I must first abandon what I hold dear to get on their level. It's like saying your parents are getting divorced and you can only love one of them.

Division doesn't need to be sewn, American history has already provided it by class, race, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability, nationality, etc. Recognizing the division and different perspectives on the same ideas is not what creates the division.

It has to be maintained. We have to find new ways of engineering conflict. Case in point, you and I are arguing over what the flag means when it shouldn't be an issue. We should both be against corrupt police and the powers that allow them to continue their brutality.

I dont even know where to start with this.

• A reporter choosing to protect the interviewee, even though its something that the American people deserved to know.
• A completely clueless RGB with values that apparently run completely contrary to her fan base.
• The fact that this confused 80 year old was making the highest decisions in the land.

Our society is a joke.

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BeyondWalls posted...

I dont even know where to start with this.

* A reporter choosing to protect the interviewee, even though its something that the American people deserved to know.
* A completely clueless RGB with values that apparently run completely contrary to her fan base.
* The fact that this confused 80 year old was making the highest decisions in the land.

Our society is a joke.

Well, considering that two sitting judges had several credible sexual assault claims made against them and were still elected in, yeah...

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indica posted...

Well, considering that two sitting judges had several credible sexual assault claims made against them and were still elected in, yeah...

Biden should expand the court and appoint Anita Hill just to fuck with Thomas.


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In 2016, Couric omitted Ginsburgs claim that not standing for the anthem depicts a contempt for a government that has made it possible for their parents and grandparents to live a decent life Which they probably could not have lived in the places they came from as they became older, they realize that this was youthful folly. And thats why education is important, Ginsburg told Couric. I think its a terrible thing to do, but I wouldnt lock a person up for doing it. I would point out how ridiculous it seems to me to do such an act.

What's so bad about this? "It's legal to do so and should remain so, but I don't agree with the action."

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FortuneCookie posted...

It's almost like it's a situation action.

The situation is a black person protesting. At these games people are talking about getting food, going to the bathroom. And Trump has even been dancing while the anthem was going on.

https://twitter.com/katie_muppet/status/1266070322123546624

The ONLY time kneeling as EVER been an issue is when black men did in protest.
Kneeling as for 100s of a years been the opposite of disrespect.

When people were marching. These same people upset at the kneeling was mad.
And these same people are mad at literally on the most peaceful protest ever.

A protest that does not impact people in any way. To the point were they don't even have to hear chanting. Were people are not setting in a business. Where people are not in the streets marching.

Tell us how are black people allowed to protest?


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The Democrats primary appeal is simply that they aren't Republicans. As soon as you start hoping for more than that the disappointment is going to come hard and fast.

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ssjevot posted...

The Democrats primary appeal is simply that they aren't Republicans. As soon as you start hoping for more than that the disappointment is going to come hard and fast.

You live in Japan, right? Politics there seem pretty fucked up too. I mean, you have essentially had one corrupt party in control for like six decades.

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So did Couric spend the following four years talking about how a Supreme Court Justice was too old and stupid to understand anything and thus shouldn't be trusted, using it as an opportunity to discuss how fucked up life time appointments can be, or...?

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indica posted...

You live in Japan, right? Politics there seem pretty fucked up too. I mean, you have essentially had one corrupt party in control for like six decades.

Yeah, not really six decades though. The last time the opposition was in power Fukushima happened. The fallout was so bad that party no longer exists. The remnants formed a bunch of random parties and now basically make a united opposition with literally every party from communists to nationalists excluding the Buddhist party which allies with the largest party to form a coalition government. It's pretty bad, the best hope was moderates in the ruling party taking over but despite being popular with the public and actual party members their candidate got beaten by the elites in the recent leadership battle. There is also a straight up neo-nazi sympathizer in the current administration because the winner basically made a deal with the devil to prevent the popular moderate from winning. The winning candidate also suddenly went pretty far right on a number of issues after winning thanks to this coalition. It's really sad. And despite the obvious corruption and straight up spurning of public opinion, I still think they will win next months election easily because the opposition is a total mess.

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I would say that this is further evidence that term limits in the SCOTUS should be a thing.

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cjsdowg posted...

The situation is a black person protesting. At these games people are talking about getting food, going to the bathroom. And Trump has even been dancing while the anthem was going on.

I don't know what the fuck is up with the cult of Trump. He disrespects soldiers, surrenders to the Taliban, and does everything a patriot should hate. Yet, they'd gladly kiss his ass and think they've touched greatness in doing so. I can't account for Trump. By all rights, he never should have made it past the primaries.

But, no. People take their flag seriously and their country seriously. For all the double-standards that exist, this is one time you can't say it's just because a Black man is doing it. White people would be booed too. When right-wingers ruined the Dixie Chicks, it wasn't because they were Black.

CyricZ posted...

Uh, actually you've proven in your assessment of "what the flag means" that you very much can, because it has already been done.

The American flag representing the troops, "freedom," and all other positive associations people hold with this country has long been the standard accepted interpretation of the flag. You can challenge that perception, but don't accept a warm reception in doing so.

This is a case where it would be prudent to choose one's battles. The most important fight is the fight to be free from brutality. You're not going to win the hearts of the people if you're simultaneously trying to challenge them on what they hold dear.

But again, people know that creates conflict and conflict itself is the goal. Instead of unanimously being against police brutality, we've placed America on trial and people defending America have become involuntary opponents of progress. It's a beautiful mess which keeps the little people fighting and the parasitic corporations fat with the lifeblood of a nation.

To protect her from the left.

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FortuneCookie posted...

But, no. People take their flag seriously and their country seriously. For all the double-standards that exist, this is one time you can't say it's just because a Black man is doing it. White people would be booed too. When right-wingers ruined the Dixie Chicks, it wasn't because they were Black.

But same people did not care when Trump and others were dinking around while the anthem played. Also these fuckers can't complain about someone taking a knee when he anthem plays. When they are find with CSA flag.

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"No, not like that"

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cjsdowg posted...

But same people did not care when Trump and others were dinking around while the anthem played. Also these fuckers can't complain about someone taking a knee when he anthem plays. When they are find with CSA flag.

I've already said that I can't account for Trump and his cult. It flies in the face of anything resembling logic or reason.