Board 8 > You're near the end of a long RPG. A late-game boss fight is extremely difficult

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I'm half convinced all the people crying tears of joy about Sora being in Smash Bros never played Dream Drop Distance.

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Turn down the difficulty. Otherwise, option 2.
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Actually use the many items I've hoarded the whole game (if applicable)

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D) Keep fighting the boss

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Look up an FAQ for strategies

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of those options i would grind

what i would actually do is google for pro tips and try those (which may or may not involve some form of grinding0

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I'm not sure I've encountered this exact situation before but ragequitting and never going back seems more my style.

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Big Bob posted...

I'm half convinced all the people crying tears of joy about Sora being in Smash Bros never played Dream Drop Distance.

.and what if they didnt??

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I figure out a different strategy and beat them without having to grind

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id get gud

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Leonhart4 posted...

Look up an FAQ for strategies

tennisboy213 posted...

D) Keep fighting the boss

hombad46 posted...

Actually use the many items I've hoarded the whole game (if applicable)

Leonhart4 posted...

Look up an FAQ for strategies

These in probably this order

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I don't think I've ever run into this scenario

1) Check FAQs and message boards for strategies at beating at a lower level
2) Keep trying a few times to see if I can beat it
3) Possibly do some minor grinding for specific skills or something. Go to step 2 after doing this.
4) Lower difficulty if that's an option and I don't feel like grinding.

That's usually the order I go in. Almost never get to the point where I'd need to level grind for hours to beat a boss. Usually there's some way to get through without that. I do appreciate the option to lower the difficulty at least, even if I rarely do so. Last time I can remember lowering was for one of the Tales of Xillia games.

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I did 2 on Persona Q because I don't level grind.

Can't think of another situation where I did 1 or 2

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All the responses saying to just look up a guide have apparently never seen a guide that said "you should be level 40 for this fight lol."

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I generally ignore level requirements on guides. They're usually grossly overleveled.

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I also can't remember the last time I played an RPG and encountered a boss I simply couldn't beat. Vast majority of games these days rely more on strategy and pre-planning than raw numbers.

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Last time I quit at the final boss was Disgaea, since he could one-shot all my characters and I did barely any damage to him. Most of my part was in the 20s and 30s for levels IIRC. Game was fairly challenging until then, but he was too much.
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Considering that I beat FFIII DS the normal way, I guess I'll have to go with 1.

But in many cases it's 3.

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I can't remember the last time I've ever HAD to level grind to beat a boss in an RPG.
Most of the times its easy to overcome by just getting gud instead.

Big Bob posted...

I'm half convinced all the people crying tears of joy about Sora being in Smash Bros never played Dream Drop Distance.

Also, I beat DDD and I don't recall any particular story fight being THAT difficult.

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WhiteLens posted...

Also, I beat DDD and I don't recall any particular story fight being THAT difficult.

How about the entire Final Six?

Other: Start the game from the beginning, leveling up more along the way and getting better equipment.

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I mean it could be my memory is failing me because I kinda just ran through the game and that was it. I didn't even bother to try to beat Julius.

I haven't even played the HD Remaster on 2.8 yet.

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WhiteLens posted...

Also, I beat DDD and I don't recall any particular story fight being THAT difficult.

In the last world, I'm stuck on the first boss fights with both Sora and Riku. I breezed through most of the game, thought some of the random encounters throughout the last world were annoying, but then I entered those fights and found my health bar depleting before I could even do anything. So, it's podcast time.

I also level grinded in Yakuza: Like a Dragon for the Majima fight.

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Lopen posted...

I generally ignore level requirements on guides. They're usually grossly overleveled.

Yep

Unless the strategy is totally dependent on a skill I can't acquire until I'm at a level higher than my own, I don't pay that any attention.

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Fiop posted...

1) Check FAQs and message boards for strategies at beating at a lower level
2) Keep trying a few times to see if I can beat it
3) Possibly do some minor grinding for specific skills or something. Go to step 2 after doing this.
4) Lower difficulty if that's an option and I don't feel like grinding.

This is basically what I would do. I rarely give up on games unless I outright dislike them, and even sometimes I'll still push to beat it anyway

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Depends. While not quite an rpg, Remnant From The Ashes has a dumb final boss which is legitimately a dps check, really the only one in the game. Once I looked that up I just quit because there was no reason to grind for hours to beat a 15 minute fight.

If there is a strategy I'm missing that's not just a gear check I will continue until I win.

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probably option 3

RIP phantasy star 4 and suikoden 1
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Mac Arrowny posted...

Last time I quit at the final boss was Disgaea, since he could one-shot all my characters and I did barely any damage to him. Most of my part was in the 20s and 30s for levels IIRC. Game was fairly challenging until then, but he was too much.

lmao, Disgaea was the exact game I was thinking of as I read this topic. That was such an absurd difficulty spike. I ended up grinding and then accidentally ground too much and kinda crushed him.

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Kenri posted...

Mac Arrowny posted...

Last time I quit at the final boss was Disgaea, since he could one-shot all my characters and I did barely any damage to him. Most of my part was in the 20s and 30s for levels IIRC. Game was fairly challenging until then, but he was too much.

lmao, Disgaea was the exact game I was thinking of as I read this topic. That was such an absurd difficulty spike. I ended up grinding and then accidentally ground too much and kinda crushed him.

I vaguely remember that boss. I think I devised a strategy of cornering him with the only two characters that could actually survive one of his attacks, and then my other characters weren't targetted and could focus on keeping those two alive and maybe doing damage.

Another example is Arc the Lad 2. For that one, I remember being sorely underlevelled but there being some piece of equipment that could slowly generate MP and giving it to my healer. Slowly I would send characters to attack the boss and then die while keeping the healer out of range and reviving them. The fight took around 3-5 hours, but still faster to do it that way than grinding.

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Big Bob posted...

All the responses saying to just look up a guide have apparently never seen a guide that said "you should be level 40 for this fight lol."

Look up low level clear guides. Like sometimes they may ask for things you don't have. But, usually one can compensate by the fact that their team is Lv60 instead of Lv6.
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Depends how bad I'm getting stomped. If I'm getting basically OHKO'd I'll grind, otherwise just keep trying different strategies. Last resort I will look up a guide to see if I'm missing something. Giving up is not an option

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I don't think I ever actually finished Sekiro becuase of that bullshit 4-phase final boss

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realistically i'd probably edit my save file to jack up my levels or whatever

if i can't, it'd depend on the game and whether guides have any tips other than 'grind'. if it really is a brain-dead rpg i'd either grind or take an extended break and see if i feel like coming back later

i've become less and less dedicated to playing games i don't enjoy

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Yeah I'd never really grind, unless I feel that a small amount could give me the reach I need.

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I defeat the boss

Start optimizing strategy even though it might take longer than just grinding?

Depends mostly on how close I believed I was to the end. If it was truly the end of the game, I probably power through it. If it's anything shy of the 80% point, I might grind, I might seek out better strategies, or I might say F it and leave.

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Grind a little bit and try out different strats probably.

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hombad46 posted...

Actually use the many items I've hoarded the whole game (if applicable)

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Level grind while listening to the in-game music

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Ragequit, say "I'll come back later" and then never touch it again

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Grind if under-leveled (which I'm usually not because I tend to do everything possible in most games I play and am over-leveled in most cases) or change my strategy and see what works if strategy matters more than levels.

Option 2 has happened to me before. Probably 10% out of every game Ive ever taken that far. A recent one that comes to mind is the real final boss in newest Dragon Quest. Game is already a marathon and at that point I did not feel like grinding.

But most of the time Ill grind it out.

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If you are level grinding in any game made post-PS1 era you are doing it wrong

Unless its post game Disgaea I guess

NFUN posted...

id get gud

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Level grind or look up a strategy online. With that said, I've looked up endings when games have bored the hell out of me.

It's been a long time since I dropped a game because it was too hard
The last game that comes to mind is Super Mario RPG where I got to the final boss and stopped because I died like...once?
Was it even hard? I don't think people consider that final boss hard...maybe I just lost interest?
Who knows that was like 15 years ago

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