Board 8 > Netflix Cowboy Bebop Teaser

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https://youtu.be/_JDWm1f6-M0

Looks shockingly good! Going all in on the camp aesthetic.

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I'm really not a fan of the goofy style, and hope the acting comes across better in the actual show because this teaser was not what I had hoped for. I'm going to watch it regardless, but while I was initially *super* excited for this, most of the recent stuff I've seen has been throwing my high hopes off a cliff.

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Im pretty interested. They at least seem to be going for something. Could be a total mess or it could be cool, but its probably not just boring?

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Points for style and creativity, but I hope this isn't indicative of... really anything in the show proper.

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Honestly love they they are willing to lean into the goofy aspects of Cowboy Bebop. It's not perfect but this does make me more hopeful. But I don't expect the whole show to be like this, nor do I think it should.

Still, very different from the original. You can't replace the anime but stuff like this is what it would take for it to be a worthwhile companion series.

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but where's my live action Trigun

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Reminds me of the Scott Pilgrim movie, stylistically anyway. That's a good thing, btw. See if the writing holds up.

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ninkendo posted...

but where's my live action Trigun

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ninkendo posted...

but where's my live action Trigun

Give me Stephen Merchant's 6'7 self as Vash and LFG.

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there has been and will always be only one good live-action anime adaption

and that is speed racer by the wachowskis

everything else is a waste of money and time

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Alita though.

...I mean I don't like it, but other people do!

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colliding posted...

there has been and will always be only one good live-action anime adaption

and that is speed racer by the wachowskis

everything else is a waste of money and time

Well boy do I have some good news about the style of this teaser!

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I kinda dig the cheesy retro vibe the show is giving off

plus as soon as I heard Green Bird playing when they teased Vicious I was sold

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It doesnt feel like a good thing that I dont know how to feel about this

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Yeah the acting feels kinda weak, especially from Jet, but I think it'll be fun regardless.

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the dialogue sounds like anime voice-acting, and the action looks just a little slow, but that overall seemed really promising to me
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it reminds me of Guardians of the Galaxy or something.

it just feels like they're trying too hard to be goofy or something

Oh yea there was definitely funny moments in Cowboy Bebop, but its like they were looking at movies from the past 5 years and being like "what can we copy?" or something

IDK

It could be decent, but as you know, Live action anime adaptations, that will make it godly

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I'm all for this take on the show.

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looks great

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This doesn't actually look that bad!

by semi-coincidence, we're also starting a rewatch of cowboy bebop now too!
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I applaud the creators for trying (because they clearly are - this doesn't appear to be a "soulless cash grab" by any standard)... but I still expect this to be a lame take on a masterpiece of source material.

Still, it might get a lot of people to check out the original.

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that was awesome

i agree that the acting is over the top, but this certainly just looks like an over the top wink at the camera trailer on purpose. it's intentionally stylized after the intro, and I expect the tone to match this trailer about as much as Cowboy Bebop actually matched its intro.

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That was fun, but like, not what the actual show is going to be like right? Like this was all shot just for this teaser right...?

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Ed or we riot

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with only ten episodes it seems like were probably gonna get a second season and well probably see Ed there

then again I was expecting Grant Danasty for four seasons of Castlevania

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WazzupGenius00 posted...

with only ten episodes it seems like were probably gonna get a second season and well probably see Ed there

then again I was expecting Grant Danasty for four seasons of Castlevania

You're right and I don't like it. XD

Then again not sure why this one is grabbing my attention when I don't really care for live-action remakes of animated source material. Maybe it's hard to believe it's real, finally. I mean, people were tossing around the idea of Keanu as Spike for 10+ years and nothing.

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WazzupGenius00 posted...

with only ten episodes it seems like were probably gonna get a second season and well probably see Ed there

then again I was expecting Grant Danasty for four seasons of Castlevania

Well as it happens the lady in season 4 was a gender flipped Grant version. So its fine!

In the case of Cowboy Bebop though, some involved have already hinted at Ed being teased, and there is a fourth slot empty in the opening.

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Lightning Strikes posted...

Well as it happens the lady in season 4 was a gender flipped Grant version. So its fine!

https://screenrant.com/castlevania-season-4-interview-kevin-kolde/

On Grant, there's a village in season 4 called Danesti - similar to Danasty - and there's the character Greta, who plays an integral role in the season, almost fulfilling Grant's role. Was all that a subtle reference to Grant?

It may be that Grant, in the game, was named after that region of Wallachia, Romania. It's a real place. It was not our intention to do a Grant reference. We're just referencing a location in a country.

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WazzupGenius00 posted...

with only ten episodes it seems like were probably gonna get a second season and well probably see Ed there

then again I was expecting Grant Danasty for four seasons of Castlevania

I saw something that said theyre planning 3 seasons, so probably adapting every episode + the movie as three or four more episodes? Maybe inventing an episode or two of their own?

but it seems likely they just changed stuff a little to get 10 Edless eps up front and then bring her in for season 2.

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This looks like trash. The tone seems way off, and there isn't a chance this doesn't end up as an Avatar/Dragonball level of live action remakes sucking complete and utter ass.

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You guys are crazy, this trailer looks incredible.

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@ExThaNemesis

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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...

This looks like trash. The tone seems way off, and there isn't a chance this doesn't end up as an Avatar/Dragonball level of live action remakes sucking complete and utter ass.

dragonball was seemingly made by people who dont know what dragonball is

at least this one is clearly made by people who care about the thing theyre adapting. It could be a mess, but I dont think it can be total trash on the level of DB and Avatar.

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MoogleKupo141 posted...

dragonball was seemingly made by people who dont know what dragonball is

at least this one is clearly made by people who care about the thing theyre adapting. It could be a mess, but I dont think it can be total trash on the level of DB and Avatar.

See, I don't know that it is true, given the weird casting choices and the overall look of the trailer, I'm getting major Dragonball Evolution vibes

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I liked that they leaned into the campiness for the teaser, but the fact that things got serious for a second the moment Vicious made an appearance gave me hope that the actual product can be more than just that. Some of you guys need to lighten up. If you wanted a shot for shot adaptation of the original just watch the anime. There would be no point to this existing if they didn't take a few creative liberties.

Also when Spike grabs the dividing bar and it turned into a bo staff that really put a smile on my face. I have above average hopes for this and I'm a huge fan of the original. It's gotta be better than the Death Note LA... right?
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GenesisSaga posted...

It's gotta be better than the Death Note LA... right?

You mean Netflix's version with Brock Light Turner?

I enjoyed the old Japanese ones from 2006, they were really striking while the iron was hot.

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GenesisSaga posted...

I liked that they leaned into the campiness for the teaser, but the fact that things got serious for a second the moment Vicious made an appearance gave me hope that the actual product can be more than just that. Some of you guys need to lighten up. If you wanted a shot for shot adaptation of the original just watch the anime. There would be no point to this existing if they didn't take a few creative liberties.

Also when Spike grabs the dividing bar and it turned into a bo staff that really put a smile on my face. I have above average hopes for this and I'm a huge fan of the original. It's gotta be better than the Death Note LA... right?

I don't know a single person that was asking for this. In fact, the only opinions I have ever seen regarding Bebop is that they either need to make new anime episodes, or just leave the series completely alone so it can stand on its quality.

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We all know that with something like Cowboy Bebop - considered a pinnacle of its original medium - any sort of adaptation is going to lose something, so I understand the logic of "they have to replace what is lost with something else / bring something different to the table." Totally get that.

I do feel like going all in on the Kung-Fu Hustle/Stephen Chow vibe isn't quite it though. Like there's certainly zany/madcap eps of CB, but that's really only like a third of its charm. And the light-hearted antics of CB really only work when juxtaposed with the show's more serious/aesthetically different tones, which I'm not really picking up on.

The thing about animation is that it allows for all of these influences to blend "effortlessly." In an ep of CB you get sci-fi, noir, western, comedy, hong-kong martial arts, and, well, anime itself, all at once. It just seems impossible that a live-action medium can do that due to limitations in human performance and special effects.


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colliding posted...

And the light-hearted antics of CB really only work when juxtaposed with the show's more serious/aesthetically different tones, which I'm not really picking up on.

The thing about animation is that it allows for all of these influences to blend "effortlessly." In an ep of CB you get sci-fi, noir, western, comedy, hong-kong martial arts, and, well, anime itself, all at once. It just seems impossible that a live-action medium can do that due to limitations in human performance and special effects.

Hard agree.

There was a lot of space in the original. Hardy har har, what I mean by "space" is time afforded in the show to think about the characters/plot, life in general, and listen to smooooth jazz. To absorb what you were watching, and give the emotions it produced in its audience some room to breathe.

This essential part is unfortunately seen as 'boring' when it comes to making trailers and teasers, so it's tough to know how much of this will be included.

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GenesisSaga posted...

I liked that they leaned into the campiness for the teaser, but the fact that things got serious for a second the moment Vicious made an appearance gave me hope that the actual product can be more than just that. Some of you guys need to lighten up. If you wanted a shot for shot adaptation of the original just watch the anime. There would be no point to this existing if they didn't take a few creative liberties.

My issue with this isn't that it's not a shot-for-shot adaptation of the original, although I don't really think that's as silly an idea as being implied - a wider audience getting to enjoy the story with it being in a much more accessible medium would be cool and if you could pull that off with any well-known anime it would probably be Bebop.

My issue is that I've seen multiple interviews with actors and showrunners and, as pretentious as it sounds to say, I really don't get the impression that many, if any, of them actually understand the essence of what made Bebop so good. They seem to think of it as a show about wacky, stylish, over-the-top misadventures in space first and a meditative commentary on loneliness and dealing with one's past second, instead of the other way around.

Again, there's only so much you can pull from a teaser - I'm not going full doom and gloom yet. But it doesn't exactly do anything to show me my fears are misguided, either.

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Bebop is both though? And thats part of what makes the drama so effective. When I was younger I always thought that the hijinks episodes (which are a majority of the show) were a waste of time, but lately Ive realised that those lighter episodes are what makes the show work. We see a bit of that in this teaser with the tonal shift in the Vicious segment. So I have no doubt that they understand that balance. The question is if they will be able to pull it off without feeling jarring.

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Yeah, part of what makes Bebop work is that it lulls you into thinking it's episodic but then drives everything home it's been building to at the end.

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To me the Vicious flashback as cut in this trailer doesn't land. It just feels like "well that was random" instead of "this is important." Maybe it works in the context of the full ep, but as a call out to CB fans it feels more weird than cool.

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I dunno. To me, it came across as "yeah this trailer is silly but don't worry the Vicious stuff will be there" but maybe I'm being optimistic!

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the Vicious stuff is the weakest part of Cowboy Bebop tbqh

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WazzupGenius00 posted...

the Vicious stuff is the weakest part of Cowboy Bebop tbqh

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The weakest part of Cowboy Bebop is the completely useless Ed and any of the Ed centric episodes

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Ballad of Fallen Angels is one of the greatest anime episodes of all time, I had to go rewatch it immediately after I saw this trailer. Still holds up

I never connected with Ed and Ein though. I wonder if there was something I was missing and if I would feel differently today.

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this looks great, but i could never get into the anime so my opinion doesn't matter

my sense is that the anime was technically impressive and a trend-setter at the time, but maybe everything else ripped it off so badly over the years, and i consumed the copycats first

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