Poll of the Day > Man shoots two teens who tried to steal his game console

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BUMPED2002 10/25/21 11:17:55 AM #1:	A guy went to sell his game console meeting two teens and one of them tried to grab the console and run off. https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-selling-gaming-console-shoots-141419150.html --- SpankageBros <cite>BUMPED2002 posted [p:959370521] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>A guy went to sell his game console meeting two teens and one of them tried to grab the console and run off. https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-selling-gaming-console-shoots-141419150.html </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/25/21 11:25:04 AM #2:	They had a gun too so the guy shouldn't get charged. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959370718] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>They had a gun too so the guy shouldn't get charged.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/25/21 11:28:00 AM #3:	Fair, next Revelation34 posted... They had a gun too so the guy shouldn't get charged. Remember the story from a week ago where people burst into a dude's house to steal his electronic devices and shot him dead when he refused to give his password to them? If the state is enough of a shit hole to press charges on this man, his lawyer needs to cite that incident. For all he knows, they would've killed him if he tried to run after them unarmed. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:959370802] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>Fair, next Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>They had a gun too so the guy shouldn't get charged.</quote>Remember the story from a week ago where people burst into a dude's house to steal his electronic devices and shot him dead when he refused to give his password to them? If the state is enough of a shit hole to press charges on this man, his lawyer needs to cite that incident. For all he knows, they would've killed him if he tried to run after them unarmed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/25/21 11:31:26 AM #4:	streamofthesky posted... Fair, next Remember the story from a week ago where people burst into a dude's house to steal his electronic devices and shot him dead when he refused to give his password to them? If the state is enough of a shit hole to press charges on this man, his lawyer needs to cite that incident. For all he knows, they would've killed him if he tried to run after them unarmed. They can't. Both happened in different states. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959370887] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote>Fair, next Remember the story from a week ago where people burst into a dude's house to steal his electronic devices and shot him dead when he refused to give his password to them? If the state is enough of a shit hole to press charges on this man, his lawyer needs to cite that incident. For all he knows, they would've killed him if he tried to run after them unarmed. </quote> They can't. Both happened in different states.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/25/21 11:34:50 AM #5:	Revelation34 posted... They can't. Both happened in different states. Ok, first off legal precedent isn't limited to your own state. 2nd of all, this isn't even legal precedent. This is, "look at what could've happened if I didn't shoot, based on a similar incident of an unarmed guy resisting against multiple armed thieves." <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:959370963] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>They can't. Both happened in different states.</quote>Ok, first off legal precedent isn't limited to your own state. 2nd of all, this isn't even legal precedent. This is, "look at what could've happened if I didn't shoot, based on a similar incident of an unarmed guy resisting against multiple armed thieves." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ParanoidObsessive 10/25/21 12:48:59 PM #6:	The main sticking point from that story is that the perp "tried to run". That's usually the key factor in self-defense shootings. The shooter will probably be held liable if he shot at them as they were fleeing, because you're usually told just to let people flee, and only shoot if you're in direct danger (ie, they're coming at you or shooting as well). That being said, I personally think thieves should be fair game (especially in your own home, ie castle doctrine), because I'm a firm believer that your civil rights cease to be valid when you're going out of your way to violate the rights of others. The possibility of getting shot/injured/killed is a choice you consciously make when you choose to break-in/steal/assault/etc, and if you don't care about what you're doing to them then no one else should care about what they might do to you. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:959372936] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>The main sticking point from that story is that the perp "tried to run". That's usually the key factor in self-defense shootings. The shooter will probably be held liable if he shot at them as they were fleeing, because you're usually told just to let people flee, and only shoot if you're in direct danger (ie, they're coming at you or shooting as well). That being said, I personally think thieves should be fair game (especially in your own home, ie castle doctrine), because I'm a firm believer that your civil rights cease to be valid when you're going out of your way to violate the rights of others. The possibility of getting shot/injured/killed is a choice you consciously make when you choose to break-in/steal/assault/etc, and if you don't care about what you're doing to them then no one else should care about what they might do to you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/25/21 12:51:08 PM #7:	streamofthesky posted... Ok, first off legal precedent isn't limited to your own state. 2nd of all, this isn't even legal precedent. This is, "look at what could've happened if I didn't shoot, based on a similar incident of an unarmed guy resisting against multiple armed thieves." It is if it isn't a federal court case. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959372996] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>streamofthesky posted...</cite> <quote> Ok, first off legal precedent isn't limited to your own state. 2nd of all, this isn't even legal precedent. This is, "look at what could've happened if I didn't shoot, based on a similar incident of an unarmed guy resisting against multiple armed thieves." </quote> It is if it isn't a federal court case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
streamofthesky 10/25/21 1:15:40 PM #8:	Revelation34 posted... It is if it isn't a federal court case. State courts never cite legal cases outside of that state for precedence? And again, it's not even about legal precedence, it's a "here's what happened a parallel universe where my client pursued them without drawing his gun". ParanoidObsessive posted... The main sticking point from that story is that the perp "tried to run". That's usually the key factor in self-defense shootings. The shooter will probably be held liable if he shot at them as they were fleeing, because you're usually told just to let people flee, and only shoot if you're in direct danger (ie, they're coming at you or shooting as well). That being said, I personally think thieves should be fair game (especially in your own home, ie castle doctrine), because I'm a firm believer that your civil rights cease to be valid when you're going out of your way to violate the rights of others. The possibility of getting shot/injured/killed is a choice you consciously make when you choose to break-in/steal/assault/etc, and if you don't care about what you're doing to them then no one else should care about what they might do to you. I think people should have a right to pursue thieves that steal their shit. You could say it's not wise, sure. But expecting some sort of legal obligation for them to just let the thief go is ridiculous. From there, the fact that these thieves brought a gun to a peaceful mercantile exchange that they planned to commit theft at demonstrates they at least had plans for turning it violent if they couldn't escape with the stolen goods nonviolently. Whether the seller saw they had a gun or not I don't know, and if they didn't then maybe he deserves to have charges against him. But the fact they planned a theft and brought a gun to it justifies his actions whether he was aware of it or not, IMO. "Well, he brought a gun, too!" Yeah, to protect himself. He wasn't the one going there intending to commit a crime and thus escalate things. There's a difference. <cite>streamofthesky posted [p:959373661] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>It is if it isn't a federal court case.</quote>State courts never cite legal cases outside of that state for precedence? And again, it's not even about legal precedence, it's a "here's what happened a parallel universe where my client pursued them without drawing his gun". ParanoidObsessive posted... </cite> <quote>The main sticking point from that story is that the perp "tried to run". That's usually the key factor in self-defense shootings. The shooter will probably be held liable if he shot at them as they were fleeing, because you're usually told just to let people flee, and only shoot if you're in direct danger (ie, they're coming at you or shooting as well). That being said, I personally think thieves should be fair game (especially in your own home, ie castle doctrine), because I'm a firm believer that your civil rights cease to be valid when you're going out of your way to violate the rights of others. The possibility of getting shot/injured/killed is a choice you consciously make when you choose to break-in/steal/assault/etc, and if you don't care about what you're doing to them then no one else should care about what they might do to you.</quote>I think people should have a right to pursue thieves that steal their shit. You could say it's not wise, sure. But expecting some sort of legal obligation for them to just let the thief go is ridiculous. From there, the fact that these thieves brought a gun to a peaceful mercantile exchange that they planned to commit theft at demonstrates they at least had plans for turning it violent if they couldn't escape with the stolen goods nonviolently. Whether the seller saw they had a gun or not I don't know, and if they didn't then maybe he deserves to have charges against him. But the fact they planned a theft and brought a gun to it justifies his actions whether he was aware of it or not, IMO. "Well, he brought a gun, too!" Yeah, to protect himself. He wasn't the one going there intending to commit a crime and thus escalate things. There's a difference. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/25/21 1:49:54 PM #9:	I don't agree with shooting someone over property. I understand people disagree with that, but I don't think it's worth taking a human life over a console. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959374736] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>I don't agree with shooting someone over property. I understand people disagree with that, but I don't think it's worth taking a human life over a console. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/25/21 1:51:59 PM #10:	ReturnOfFa posted... I don't agree with shooting someone over property. I understand people disagree with that, but I don't think it's worth taking a human life over a console. It is. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:959374811] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>I don't agree with shooting someone over property. I understand people disagree with that, but I don't think it's worth taking a human life over a console.</quote>It is. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 10/25/21 1:55:44 PM #11:	Sounds like a scalper. I hope he goes to prison for this, because the world could use less of pieces of shit like him. --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips <cite>lihlih posted [p:959374922] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a scalper. I hope he goes to prison for this, because the world could use less of pieces of shit like him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/25/21 2:08:55 PM #12:	BlackScythe0 posted... It is. Move to Saudi Arabia then. Commit. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959375281] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite> <quote>It is.</quote>Move to Saudi Arabia then. Commit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SilentSeph 10/25/21 2:19:37 PM #13:	lihlih posted... Sounds like a scalper. I hope he goes to prison for this, because the world could use less of pieces of shit like him. What makes it sound like he's a scalper? --- Delicious and vicious, while maliciously nutritious. <cite>SilentSeph posted [p:959375558] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>lihlih posted... </cite> <quote>Sounds like a scalper. I hope he goes to prison for this, because the world could use less of pieces of shit like him.</quote>What makes it sound like he's a scalper? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
lihlih 10/25/21 2:27:32 PM #14:	SilentSeph posted... What makes it sound like he's a scalper? He was selling an Xbox console, and most of the 2nd hand consoles sold on shit like Offerup, CL, etc... are sold by scalpers. It could be a guy selling an old 360 or something, but why would some thieves risk it for something of very little value like that? --- People come up to me... concerned.. that I'll reproduce." - Emo Philips <cite>lihlih posted [p:959375814] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>SilentSeph posted...</cite> <quote> What makes it sound like he's a scalper? </quote> He was selling an Xbox console, and most of the 2nd hand consoles sold on shit like Offerup, CL, etc... are sold by scalpers. It could be a guy selling an old 360 or something, but why would some thieves risk it for something of very little value like that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArvTheGreat 10/25/21 2:35:35 PM #15:	good for the guy for trying to protect his game consoles --- Things are about to get arvified <cite>ArvTheGreat posted [p:959376030] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>good for the guy for trying to protect his game consoles </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/25/21 2:35:46 PM #16:	also, lmfao selling an xbox at 1am in Chicago. I think I can suggest a way to avoid these situations. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959376034] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>also, lmfao selling an xbox at 1am in Chicago. I think I can suggest a way to avoid these situations. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
keyblader1985 10/25/21 3:09:33 PM #17:	ReturnOfFa posted... Move to Saudi Arabia then. Commit. I'm not sure the ideal solution to disagreeing with a law in your country is to move to an entirely different one.. --- Official King of PotD You only need one T-Rex to make the point, though. ~ Samus Sedai <cite>keyblader1985 posted [p:959376981] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>Move to Saudi Arabia then. Commit.</quote>I'm not sure the ideal solution to disagreeing with a law in your country is to move to an entirely different one.. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/25/21 3:11:36 PM #18:	keyblader1985 posted... I'm not sure the ideal solution to disagreeing with a law in your country is to move to an entirely different one.. Oh I know, I'm being facetious. --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959377040] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>keyblader1985 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not sure the ideal solution to disagreeing with a law in your country is to move to an entirely different one..</quote>Oh I know, I'm being facetious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 10/25/21 3:14:35 PM #19:	Revelation34 posted... They had a gun too so the guy shouldn't get charged. they would in california. even if someone breaks into your home and grabs your stuff, shooting them while they exiting and not a threat to you can get you charged..... --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:959377132] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote>They had a gun too so the guy shouldn't get charged.</quote> they would in california. even if someone breaks into your home and grabs your stuff, shooting them while they exiting and not a threat to you can get you charged.....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 10/25/21 4:04:20 PM #20:	keyblader1985 posted... I'm not sure the ideal solution to disagreeing with a law in your country is to move to an entirely different one.. He cant even do that in his country. Canadian self-defense laws are garbage. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/manslaughter-charges-collingwood-shooting-1.5969907 --- If the truth is bothersome, then change what's true. <cite>zebatov posted [p:959378610] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>keyblader1985 posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not sure the ideal solution to disagreeing with a law in your country is to move to an entirely different one..</quote> He cant even do that in his country. Canadian self-defense laws are garbage. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/manslaughter-charges-collingwood-shooting-1.5969907 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReggieTheReckless 10/25/21 4:06:12 PM #21:	ReturnOfFa posted... also, lmfao selling an xbox at 1am in Chicago. I think I can suggest a way to avoid these situations. seriously. Are we sure the guy wasn't a scammer too? Was the box empty? ha <cite>ReggieTheReckless posted [p:959378663] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>also, lmfao selling an xbox at 1am in Chicago. I think I can suggest a way to avoid these situations.</quote>seriously. Are we sure the guy wasn't a scammer too? Was the box empty? ha </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/25/21 4:57:04 PM #22:	zebatov posted... He cant even do that in his country. Canadian self-defense laws are garbage. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/manslaughter-charges-collingwood-shooting-1.5969907 I'm not going to bother shooting someone over property, I already made that clear. I'm happy to live in Canada. Self-defense should be limited to hand-to-hand or a blunt object, not a gun. Of course you're free to disagree with me. I have my personal convictions, but I still recognize the need for equality in US gun laws. It's disgusting the way officers will chit-chat with someone like Kyle Rittenhouse while open-carrying, but they'll wig out and arrest a black male. https://youtu.be/tz7QXflrllw --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959380353] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>zebatov posted... </cite> <quote>He cant even do that in his country. Canadian self-defense laws are garbage. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/manslaughter-charges-collingwood-shooting-1.5969907</quote>I'm not going to bother shooting someone over property, I already made that clear. I'm happy to live in Canada. Self-defense should be limited to hand-to-hand or a blunt object, not a gun. Of course you're free to disagree with me. I have my personal convictions, but I still recognize the need for equality in US gun laws. It's disgusting the way officers will chit-chat with someone like Kyle Rittenhouse while open-carrying, but they'll wig out and arrest a black male. https://youtu.be/tz7QXflrllw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImperialScrolls 10/25/21 5:05:50 PM #23:	ABC ALWAYS BE CARRYING And always be prepared to defend yourself. My man is kinda dumb though. I wouldn't meet with anyone in Chicago, let alone at 1 AM. Always meet in a public place, during peak hours. I conduct my craigslist transactions at a local shopping center. <cite>ImperialScrolls posted [p:959380626] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>ABC ALWAYS BE CARRYING And always be prepared to defend yourself. My man is kinda dumb though. I wouldn't meet with anyone in Chicago, let alone at 1 AM. Always meet in a public place, during peak hours. I conduct my craigslist transactions at a local shopping center. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 10/25/21 6:44:54 PM #24:	ReturnOfFa posted... I'm not going to bother shooting someone over property, I already made that clear. I'm happy to live in Canada. Self-defense should be limited to hand-to-hand or a blunt object, not a gun. Of course you're free to disagree with me. that's idiotic. if someone is coming at you with a knife you should risk your life by not using a gun? --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:959383378] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted...</cite> <quote> I'm not going to bother shooting someone over property, I already made that clear. I'm happy to live in Canada. Self-defense should be limited to hand-to-hand or a blunt object, not a gun. Of course you're free to disagree with me. </quote> that's idiotic. if someone is coming at you with a knife you should risk your life by not using a gun?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/25/21 7:20:55 PM #25:	Krazy_Kirby posted... that's idiotic. if someone is coming at you with a knife you should risk your life by not using a gun? a) learning to disarm someone is extremely effective. obviously if you're an effective gun-handler, this is also effective. I like that Japanese police officers fire very few bullets and still are successful in disarming armed criminals. b) running is an easy out --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959384530] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>that's idiotic. if someone is coming at you with a knife you should risk your life by not using a gun?</quote>a) learning to disarm someone is extremely effective. obviously if you're an effective gun-handler, this is also effective. I like that Japanese police officers fire very few bullets and still are successful in disarming armed criminals. b) running is an easy out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/25/21 7:22:20 PM #26:	i'm allowed to disagree with civilian capital punishment lmao --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959384589] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>i'm allowed to disagree with civilian capital punishment lmao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackScythe0 10/26/21 12:30:16 AM #27:	ReturnOfFa posted... Move to Saudi Arabia then. Commit. So I'm sick and tired of thieves and have no problem hearing about them getting what is coming to them and so I should go to a hell hole. Sounds rational. <cite>BlackScythe0 posted [p:959393205] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>Move to Saudi Arabia then. Commit.</quote> So I'm sick and tired of thieves and have no problem hearing about them getting what is coming to them and so I should go to a hell hole. Sounds rational. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ReturnOfFa 10/26/21 12:58:28 AM #28:	BlackScythe0 posted... So I'm sick and tired of thieves and have no problem hearing about them getting what is coming to them and so I should go to a hell hole. Sounds rational. I'm saying, go somewhere where they exercise violence as a solution for crimes! It works. Right? --- girls like my fa <cite>ReturnOfFa posted [p:959393744] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>BlackScythe0 posted... </cite> <quote>So I'm sick and tired of thieves and have no problem hearing about them getting what is coming to them and so I should go to a hell hole. Sounds rational.</quote>I'm saying, go somewhere where they exercise violence as a solution for crimes! It works. Right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 10/26/21 11:49:09 AM #29:	ReturnOfFa posted... I don't agree with shooting someone over property. I understand people disagree with that, but I don't think it's worth taking a human life over a console. They had a gun. ReturnOfFa posted... I'm not going to bother shooting someone over property, I already made that clear. I'm happy to live in Canada. Self-defense should be limited to hand-to-hand or a blunt object, not a gun. Of course you're free to disagree with me. I have my personal convictions, but I still recognize the need for equality in US gun laws. It's disgusting the way officers will chit-chat with someone like Kyle Rittenhouse while open-carrying, but they'll wig out and arrest a black male. https://youtu.be/tz7QXflrllw You're right. They should have just allowed themselves to both be shot and then the 8 year old daughter who was next door too! --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:959403949] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted...</cite> <quote>I don't agree with shooting someone over property. I understand people disagree with that, but I don't think it's worth taking a human life over a console. </quote> They had a gun. ReturnOfFa posted...</cite> <quote> I'm not going to bother shooting someone over property, I already made that clear. I'm happy to live in Canada. Self-defense should be limited to hand-to-hand or a blunt object, not a gun. Of course you're free to disagree with me. I have my personal convictions, but I still recognize the need for equality in US gun laws. It's disgusting the way officers will chit-chat with someone like Kyle Rittenhouse while open-carrying, but they'll wig out and arrest a black male. https://youtu.be/tz7QXflrllw </quote> You're right. They should have just allowed themselves to both be shot and then the 8 year old daughter who was next door too!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
zebatov 10/27/21 4:23:25 PM #30:	ReturnOfFa posted... a) learning to disarm someone is extremely effective. obviously if you're an effective gun-handler, this is also effective. I like that Japanese police officers fire very few bullets and still are successful in disarming armed criminals. b) running is an easy out You should give someone a Sharpie and wear a white shirt. Have them attack you with the Sharpie, pretending its a knife, and then look at all the black marks on your shirt after. You cant always run. But its fine if you dont think so. I just believe that our gun laws are stupid. For example: Shotguns with barrels under 18 have to be 26 long stock to muzzle. Shotguns with barrel of 18 are perfectly fine. So you could actually find a shotgun shorter than what is otherwise allowed, depending on the stock. Semi-auto shotguns limited to five-round mags, where pump-action has no limit. Can you tell me the difference in a mall where nobody is armed that a pump-action would really make? You can get box mags for pump-actions to save time loading a tubular magazine. Meanwhile, semi-auto restricted handguns are limited to ten rounds, and are much more concealable. The rules for ammo that apply to semi-auto shotguns also apply to semi-auto rifles. A rifle has to be 26 in length. Lever-action rifles have no ammo limit. Theyre prohibiting guns because of the way they look, not based on functionality. I asked in my PAL course if the lengths they chose (26) were arbitrary, and the answer was in other words Yes. --- If the truth is bothersome, then change what's true. <cite>zebatov posted [p:959445141] in Man shoots... [t:79727559]...</cite> <quote>ReturnOfFa posted... </cite> <quote>a) learning to disarm someone is extremely effective. obviously if you're an effective gun-handler, this is also effective. I like that Japanese police officers fire very few bullets and still are successful in disarming armed criminals. b) running is an easy out</quote> You should give someone a Sharpie and wear a white shirt. Have them attack you with the Sharpie, pretending its a knife, and then look at all the black marks on your shirt after. You cant always run. But its fine if you dont think so. I just believe that our gun laws are stupid. For example: Shotguns with barrels under 18 have to be 26 long stock to muzzle. Shotguns with barrel of 18 are perfectly fine. So you could actually find a shotgun shorter than what is otherwise allowed, depending on the stock. Semi-auto shotguns limited to five-round mags, where pump-action has no limit. Can you tell me the difference in a mall where nobody is armed that a pump-action would really make? You can get box mags for pump-actions to save time loading a tubular magazine. Meanwhile, semi-auto restricted handguns are limited to ten rounds, and are much more concealable. The rules for ammo that apply to semi-auto shotguns also apply to semi-auto rifles. A rifle has to be 26 in length. Lever-action rifles have no ammo limit. Theyre prohibiting guns because of the way they look, not based on functionality. I asked in my PAL course if the lengths they chose (26) were arbitrary, and the answer was in other words Yes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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