Current Events > HOLD UP! In Ocarina of Time, are the six sages #spoilers

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HesOurYou
11/05/21 6:59:24 PM
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Are they all dead? Is that why theyre sages? Because Ganon killed them all?

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SSJKirby
11/05/21 6:59:38 PM
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hella dead

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SocialistGamer
11/05/21 7:00:05 PM
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No they all just chillin' smoking the good stuff.

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nfearurspecimn
11/05/21 7:02:22 PM
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I don't think so. Ruto and Nabooru weren't killed.

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CountDog
11/05/21 7:07:22 PM
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Lordgold666
11/05/21 7:26:44 PM
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Wish we couldve used the medallions instead of the spells

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Gobstoppers12
11/05/21 7:28:12 PM
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HesOurYou posted...
Are they all dead? Is that why theyre sages? Because Ganon killed them all?
You literally rescue Nabooru from a mind control spell within the Spirit Temple. No, she's not dead.

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11/05/21 7:28:24 PM
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CountDog posted...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cjpHzLYHkwA
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KneeOnBest
11/06/21 2:29:45 PM
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At least Saria and Darunia are definitely dead. Ruto and Impa are probably dead. Nabooru I'm not sure

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Gobstoppers12
11/06/21 2:34:22 PM
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KneeOnBest posted...
At least Saria and Darunia are definitely dead. Ruto and Impa are probably dead.
????

What makes you say any of these things?

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PrettyBoyFloyd
11/06/21 2:36:14 PM
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I assumed they all remained in their temples till the end?

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HylianFox
11/06/21 2:38:18 PM
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It's implied, yeah, but not outright confirmed.

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KneeOnBest
11/06/21 2:45:14 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
????

What makes you say any of these things?
Saria was exploring the Forest Temple saying there's tons of monsters if you call her on the Ocarina before you enter. Then you never find her after exploring the entire temple sooooooooooooooooo

Darunia literally goes to fight Volgaria. Then when you enter the boss room and see that the dragon is alive but he's missing, soooooooooooo

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Srk700
11/06/21 3:43:25 PM
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It's iffy. Like there's a strong implication Darunia and Impa died (Darunia being gone when you enter Volvagia's chamber and IIRC Impa going into the well to seal Bongo Bongo but Bongo Bongo breaks out with no word or sign on what happened to Impa). But then on the other hand you have Nabooru + Zelda who are also sages but they're still alive (Zelda needs no explanation while Nabooru gets blasted by the witches, but they also make the comment that they're going to brainwash her again which implies they just teleported her away). Rauru, Saria, and Ruto are sort of in between in that they could be alive or dead, but it isn't made clear.

Edit: On 2nd thought I might be misremembering about Impa. I don't remember if she goes missing in the well or if Sheik says she went chasing BB into the Shadow Temple after BB KOs her + Link.
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Noumas
11/06/21 3:46:18 PM
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CountDog posted...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cjpHzLYHkwA
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BakonBitz
11/06/21 4:18:43 PM
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There's some clues that point to yes, but no direct confirmation.

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ultimate reaver
11/06/21 4:20:08 PM
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theres still-red blood all over the walls of the well in the forest temple, saria got pulled in and sadako'd

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11/06/21 4:21:21 PM
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YellowSUV
11/06/21 4:29:37 PM
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Was Nabooru getting "teleported" away to be brainwashed again mistranslated? Seems odd she would survive when it was implied the other sages were dead or their fate ambiguous.

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Gobstoppers12
11/06/21 4:31:01 PM
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What makes people think Ruto is dead, anyway?

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Doe
11/06/21 4:37:50 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
What makes people think Ruto is dead, anyway?
She walks into another room after meeting you and when you go in there it's an ambush of monsters. So it's speculated she died in there

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Perascamin
11/06/21 4:39:18 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
You literally rescue Nabooru from a mind control spell within the Spirit Temple. No, she's not dead.
And then Kotake and Koume kill her

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spikethedevil
11/06/21 4:46:06 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
I don't think so. Ruto and Nabooru weren't killed.

This.

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spikethedevil
11/06/21 4:46:57 PM
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Perascamin posted...
And then Kotake and Koume kill her

What makes you think this?

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BakonBitz
11/06/21 5:52:17 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
What makes you think this?
She gets zapped and disappears in a flash of light.

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spikethedevil
11/06/21 7:25:14 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
She gets zapped and disappears in a flash of light.

Forgot about that lol.

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pegusus123456
11/06/21 7:32:11 PM
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At the end of the game, Ganondorf says he'll kill the descendants of Zelda, Link, and the sages. I'm not entirely up-to-date on the biology of all the different races, but I think most of them can't reproduce after dying.

"YOU... CURSE YOU...ZELDA! CURSE YOU...SAGES!! CURSE YOU...LINK! Someday... When this seal is broken... That is when I will exterminate your descendants!! As long as the Triforce of Power is in my hand..."


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Duncanwii
11/06/21 7:41:44 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
At the end of the game, Ganondorf says he'll kill the descendants of Zelda, Link, and the sages. I'm not entirely up-to-date on the biology of all the different races, but I think most of them can't reproduce after dying.

"YOU... CURSE YOU...ZELDA! CURSE YOU...SAGES!! CURSE YOU...LINK! Someday... When this seal is broken... That is when I will exterminate your descendants!! As long as the Triforce of Power is in my hand..."


And he does that. In Wind Waker he personally killed The Earth and Wind Sages.
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DrizztLink
11/06/21 7:42:01 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I'm not entirely up-to-date on the biology of all the different races, but I think most of them can't reproduce after dying.
You trying to imply Darunia wasn't smashing bitches the same as rocks all his adult life?

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pegusus123456
11/06/21 7:44:50 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
You trying to imply Darunia wasn't smashing bitches the same as rocks all his adult life?
Darunia has a son, so I wasn't talking about him.

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Irony
11/06/21 7:46:05 PM
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Gorons don't have sex

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DrizztLink
11/06/21 7:46:49 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Darunia has a son, so I wasn't talking about him.
He was just the only example of "This Sage FUCKS" I could think of off-hand and I couldn't resist the stupid joke.

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Bass_X0
11/06/21 7:47:06 PM
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Irony posted...
Gorons don't have sex

You've not watched goron porn I take it.


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Irony
11/06/21 7:48:12 PM
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I've seen porn of two inanimate objects with faces having sex. Porn is irrelevant.

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Gwynevere
11/06/21 8:05:19 PM
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Pretty sure they're all dead yeah. The implication is that they died in their respective temples

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Kimbos_Egg
11/06/21 8:06:56 PM
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nfearurspecimn posted...
I don't think so. Ruto and Nabooru weren't killed.

Nabooru was taken by the twins and could have easily died. You only see her at the end

Ruto is the same. her disimbodied voice tells you the water boss isn't really water, so where the hell is she?

They're all dead bro.

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Duncanwii
11/06/21 8:10:36 PM
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It's because they they went in without any form of protection. Hell you'd think Saria at least would be smart enough to bring a sword or something she grew up with Mido after all.
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spikethedevil
11/06/21 8:15:48 PM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
Nabooru was taken by the twins and could have easily died. You only see her at the end

Ruto is the same. her disimbodied voice tells you the water boss isn't really water, so where the hell is she?

They're all dead bro.

TBF this what I always assumed.

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DrizztLink
11/06/21 8:17:05 PM
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spikethedevil posted...
TBF this what I always assumed.
Yeah, I've honestly thought this for like twenty five years.

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spikethedevil
11/06/21 8:26:51 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Yeah, I've honestly thought this for like twenty five years.

I just misremembered Naburo and thought she survived but its clear she doesnt.

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Srk700
11/06/21 9:07:47 PM
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Kotake and Koume do mention something along the lines of brainwashing her again after you beat her as an Iron Knuckle. It's possible they just teleported her away somewhere unless it was a translation error or they were going to turn her into an undead enemy like a Redead or Stalchild.
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pegusus123456
11/06/21 9:11:12 PM
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Srk700 posted...
unless it was a translation error or they were going to turn her into an undead enemy like a Redead or Stalchild.
Google tells me the translation of that line is pretty 1:1, though I did just find this on a forum post.


Then lets fix the brainwashing again Hee hee hee

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DarthAragorn
11/06/21 9:13:08 PM
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In later games the sages can be/are killed

I don't think they could be killed if they're dead

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GeneralKenobi85
11/06/21 9:20:11 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
In later games the sages can be/are killed

I don't think they could be killed if they're dead
Yeah I don't think they can actually function as sages if they're dead. Otherwise, why would they need six new sages anyway?

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dave_is_slick
11/06/21 9:31:26 PM
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They can't be dead, they wouldn't be able to DO anything if they were. They themselves don't act like they are either.

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Gobstoppers12
11/06/21 9:43:26 PM
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I think it's more likely that at some point during their involvement in the temple, they "awaken" as Sages. They use that word when they talk to you after the temple--"Awakened as a sage."

I take that to mean that through their involvement in the temple, they realized their powers and transformed in some way, much like how they transform into those balls of energy in the credits sequence. Then, they use their powers to help seal the evil while you're fighting it. Darunia says, and I quote, "Nothing has made me happier than helping you seal the evil here!"

I don't think it makes sense for all of them to have died. Especially in Nabooru's case, given the dialogue involved.

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Kisai
11/06/21 9:48:13 PM
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I assumed most of them sort of ascended. Do they have to be dead for some weird reason?

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pegusus123456
11/06/21 10:07:52 PM
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...
Yeah I don't think they can actually function as sages if they're dead
Yeah, Laruto and Fado in Wind Waker can't perform their duties because they're dead.

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Kimbos_Egg
11/06/21 10:18:03 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
Yeah, Laruto and Fado in Wind Waker can't perform their duties because they're dead.

only implied. Seems to me they needed a replacement because they were doing it for so long.

Also, just because they are dead now, doesn't mean they always need to be dead. Nor does it mean ghosts can't be killed.

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DoomSwell
11/06/21 10:28:36 PM
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Are they not in the celebration during the credits?

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