Current Events > Re: Reigious exemptions, Jesus Christ himself would be pro vaccine

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I guarantee it

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But... Jesus *is* the vaccine

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I don't believe so. He could heal the sick instantly. He advised if we had stronger faith we could do the same.

Jesus would be progressive as fuck.

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Jesus would say to respect prostitutes and be labeled a woke idiot

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Jesus: I shall heal you my son
Conservatives: for free?!??! wtf tell him to use his bootstraps and heal himself!

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TheVipaGTS posted...

Jesus would be progressive as fuck.

Agreed, he was actually very liberal for his time, rejected the religious customs of the time period, spent his time associating with sinners and the unrighteous, even making some of these people his apostles.

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JimmyFraska posted...

I don't believe so. He could heal the sick instantly. He advised if we had stronger faith we could do the same.

Yeah but maybe creating this kind of technology is what he meant.

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Butt supply side jesus

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Prestoff posted...

Butt supply side jesus

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hh3Y_yXWDQs

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The Bible also says to listen to your leaders and submit to their authority, but they seem to overlook that fact

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Shablagoo posted...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hh3Y_yXWDQs

Jesus was socially liberal, not conservative, but we didn't need a "new book discovery" in 2017 to prove that Jesus himself was financially successful (as opposed to poor which some erroneously believe).

He had a ministry and one of his apostles was his treasurer. Broke people don't need a treasurer.

When he was crucified the people cast lots to see who would get a piece of his cloak. His cloak was a one-piece robe, a very expensive article of clothing 2000 years ago in the Middle East.

It says he rode into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday on a donkey. By today's standards people perceive that as a low form of travel but back then before technology, a donkey was like the pope-mobile!

Jesus was very successful, had a ministry which was producing himself a net worth, and basically drove into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday in a Bentley while wearing an expensive suit.

He was successful but also liberal and giving to the people at the time time.

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Returning_CEmen posted...

The Bible also says to listen to your leaders and submit to their authority, but they seem to overlook that fact

Jesus didnt submit to satan or those who punished him. You might have read a romance novel instead

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Jx1010 posted...

Jesus didnt submit to satan or those who punished him. You might have read a romance novel instead

Hebrews 13:17

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Liberalism and conservatism didn't exist as concepts in ancient rome.

Returning_CEmen posted...

Hebrews 13:17

Taking that out of context. If u read the whole thing, talks abiut being good to people, having good leaders and people helping each other. Its not just about once sentence. Learn to read next time.

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Returning_CEmen posted...

The Bible also says to listen to your leaders and submit to their authority, but they seem to overlook that fact

they just rewrite it. "the only leader and authority i need is god himself!"...ok then what is god telling you?

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RustyFerret posted...

Liberalism and conservatism didn't exist as concepts in ancient rome.

yes they did. they just weren't called Liberalism and Conservatism. People didn't just start suddenly acting a certain way when those two ideals were created. They were created based partly on how people act, or think things should be done. People thought like that back in those times too.

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Phantom36 posted...

Jesus was socially liberal, not conservative, but we didn't need a "new book discovery" in 2017 to prove that Jesus himself was financially successful (as opposed to poor which some erroneously believe).

He had a ministry and one of his apostles was his treasurer. Broke people don't need a treasurer.

When he was crucified the people cast lots to see who would get a piece of his cloak. His cloak was a one-piece robe, a very expensive article of clothing 2000 years ago in the Middle East.

It says he rode into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday on a donkey. By today's standards people perceive that as a low form of travel but back then before technology, a donkey was like the pope-mobile!

Jesus was very successful, had a ministry which was producing himself a net worth, and basically drove into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday in a Bentley while wearing an expensive suit.

He was successful but also liberal and giving to the people at the time time.

The video I shared is a satirical one made by The Onion (Clickhole is an offshoot of theirs) about Jesus becoming the first millionaire by enslaving his apostles and making crappy mousetraps that dont work lol

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It's kind of interesting how the local pastor will preach about submission to authority when talking about police, but take a decidedly different tone about elected officials of a certain party.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

Jesus would be progressive as fuck.

Mark 10:21

Jesus looked at him and loved him. One thing you lack, he said. Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Jesus would say to respect prostitutes and be labeled a woke idiot

Dont you mean sex worker.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

yes they did. they just weren't called Liberalism and Conservatism. People didn't just start suddenly acting a certain way when those two ideals were created. They were created based partly on how people act, or think things should be done. People thought like that back in those times too.

I mean for the most part, we're still making guesses on what Jesus would be if he existed in this day of age. It's entirely possible that people minds can change if they experience different things. "Socialist" Jesus in the past could be a "Pro-Capitalist Supply Side" Jesus now.

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Shablagoo posted...

The video I shared is a satirical one made by The Onion (Clickhole is an offshoot of theirs) about Jesus becoming the first millionaire by enslaving his apostles and making crappy mousetraps that dont work lol

Lol that's actually pretty funny

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Prestoff posted...

I mean for the most part, we're still making guesses on what Jesus would be if he existed in this day of age. It's entirely possible that people minds can change if they experience different things. "Socialist" Jesus in the past could be a "Pro-Capitalist Supply Side" Jesus now.

Why would he change in this day, though? If his morals and ideals remained the same, then who he is socially would fit way closer to modern liberalism. 200 years from now it might be called something else, but if we're to believe that whats written in the bible about him is true, and we have no reason to believe he would change as a person from those basic concepts...He'd be progressive today. Whatever that was called back then i don't know. But its called progressivism today.

Of course, I'm of the opinion that he wasn't the son of god and am looking at the bible as a story, not a true life telling. So the character of Jesus is what you would call a progressive today.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

Of course, I'm of the opinion that he wasn't the son of god and am looking at the bible as a story, not a true life telling. So the character of Jesus is what you would call a progressive today.

https://youtu.be/WaQFsqLgRE0

progressive enough to be arrested?

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Jx1010 posted...

progressive enough to be arrested?

...ummm, yes. Obviously things were different back then, but his actions on paper are what would be considered progressive today...Am I speaking a different language or something?

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TheVipaGTS posted...

yes they did. they just weren't called Liberalism and Conservatism. People didn't just start suddenly acting a certain way when those two ideals were created. They were created based partly on how people act, or think things should be done. People thought like that back in those times too.

Liberalism and Conservatism as political philosophies were born out of the enlightenment, which was my point.

If you simplify liberal and conservative to just meaning a binary difference of opinion, okay sure I guess. Though people had all kinds of positions back then.

TheVipaGTS posted...

Jesus would be progressive as fuck.

This. I keep saying that American conservatives would hate the actual Jesus if he showed up. He doesn't embody any of the ideals that they champion.

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Jx1010 posted...

Jesus didnt submit to satan or those who punished him. You might have read a romance novel instead

Satan isn't leadership. Secondly he did very much willingly surrender himself to the Romans.

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Prestoff posted...

I mean for the most part, we're still making guesses on what Jesus would be if he existed in this day of age. It's entirely possible that people minds can change if they experience different things. "Socialist" Jesus in the past could be a "Pro-Capitalist Supply Side" Jesus now.

Widow's mites story pretty much shits on this idea hate to break it to you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesson_of_the_widow%27s_mite

"He sat down opposite the treasury and observed how the crowd put money into the treasury. Many rich people put in large sums. A poor widow also came and put in two small coins worth a few cents. Calling his disciples to himself, he said to them, 'Amen, I say to you, this poor widow put in more than all the other contributors to the treasury. For they have all contributed from their surplus wealth, but she, from her poverty, has contributed all she had, her whole livelihood.'"[

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The irony of Jesus is that the American right made him his figurehead but in today's political atmosphere Jesus would be closer to a Democratic socialist than a conservative. His "wealthy don't collect wealth and give to the poor" and free healing to those who needed is very similar to the platform espoused by Bernie Sanders.

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Yeah, I don't know about pinning an economic theory onto Jesus.

Jesus was against all forms of idolatry, including political philosophies that were put before God (which socialism is also guilty of).

He made a big stink about wealth because it was an idol for many during that time and still today.

RustyFerret posted...

Yeah, I don't know about pinning an economic theory onto Jesus.

Jesus was against all forms of idolatry, including political philosophies that were put before God (which socialism is also guilty of).

He made a big stink about wealth because it was an idol for many during that time and still today.

Ok, we can't say what Jesus would have been, but we know Republicans would have hated that woke hippie whining about diversity and inclusion, virtue signaling about how many people he saves for free.

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hockeybub89 posted...

Ok, we can't say what Jesus would have been, but we know Republicans would have hated that woke hippie whining about diversity and inclusion, virtue signaling about how many people he saves for free.

Christians feed and help the homeless, alot of churches help the community.

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Jesus pissed off everybody back then, including people who thought they were on his side.

He would probably do the same today.

RustyFerret posted...

Jesus pissed off everybody back then, including people who thought they were on his side.

He would probably do the same today.

yea, those people he'd piss off today would be conservatives

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Jesus avoided politics and policy

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TheVipaGTS posted...

yea, those people he'd piss off today would be conservatives

and people on left.

Everyone.

RustyFerret posted...

and people on left.

yea ok

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Dathrowed1 posted...

Jesus avoided politics and policy

Right,

Even the Jewish citizens at the time were disappointed in Jesus because they wanted him to be a violent revolutionary to overthrow the Roman government, and he spoke against such thinking.

JimmyFraska posted...

I don't believe so. He could heal the sick instantly. He advised if we had stronger faith we could do the same.

Said the half-God who had supernatural powers. Jesus was just as tone deaf as his daddy.

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you guys are taking this too literally. we're talking about his ideals. who he is as a person aligns more with modern progressivism. If he brought those ideals to todays world, the same people praising him the most would be attacking those ideals, because they attack them every day today as it is without realizing the irony.

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RustyFerret posted...

Jesus was against all forms of idolatry, including political philosophies

First of all, no. "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's."

RustyFerret posted...

political philosophies that were put before God (which socialism is also guilty of).

What does that even mean?

RustyFerret posted...

He made a big stink about wealth because it was an idol for many during that time and still today.

No, Jesus didn't say a money idolizer when he said it's easier for a camel to pass through a needle.

ButteryMales posted...

First of all, no. "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's."

I'm not sure what you mean in response to what I said. Can you elaborate?
ButteryMales posted...

What does that even mean?

People can be guilty of putting their political ideals as being the center of their life. That's a form of idolatry in Christianity.
ButteryMales posted...

No, Jesus didn't say a money idolizer when he said it's easier for a camel to pass through a needle.

Rich people don't idolize money?

RustyFerret posted...

I'm not sure what you mean in response to what I said. Can you elaborate?

Caesar was literally an idol on a coin and Jesus said this is what you give Caesar not destroy these graven idols.

RustyFerret posted...

People can be guilty of putting their political ideals as being the center of their life. That's a form of idolatry in Christianity

So all political ideals are idolatry?

RustyFerret posted...

Rich people don't idolize money?

If the problem was just idolizing money he'd say idolizers. There could be a football player or something who got rich and was just felt like it's too hard to find good charities or a trustworthy accountant.

I didn't know Jesus was an authoritarian.

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That's your first mistake, assuming the teachings of Jesus Christ have anything to do with modern day Christianity.

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AssultTank posted...

There once was a man who lived in an apartment in the city, one day in 2020 a pandemic started raging.

As the pandemic started, warnings were given via radio, TV and shortwave. On the broadcasts the officials said:
"You are in danger. Your life is at stake. You must wear a mask."

"No," the man replied from his doorstep. "I have faith. I will be ok. The pandemic won't get me. God will take care of me."
The pandemic continued to rage. The man refused to wear a mask.

Soon the city was in the second wave. Warnings went out about social distancing. Officials tried everything they could to get the man to protect himself and stop hanging out in groups and at Trump rallies.
"You are in danger. Your life is at stake. You will catch the virus and possibly die! You should social distance and avoid contact with others to prevent the spread!"
"No worries," says the man. "I have faith. Everything is ok. Even though the pandemic is raging, I will be fine. God will take care of me."
The pandemic continued to rage.
Eventually a vaccine was developed and officials began to promote it:
"You are in danger. The pandemic is still getting worse. You will catch COVID if you don't get a vaccine!"
"No worries." says the man. "I will be fine. Yes, the pandemic is worse but I have faith. God will take care of me."
The pandemic rages. The man gets COVID and dies.
At the pearly gates, the man says to God: "I had faith. You let me die."
To which God replies: "I sent you masks, social distancing, and a vaccine. What more could I have done for you?"

And then God pulls a lever making the man fall through a trap door to Hell