Current Events > Police: No evidence of sex trafficking in that murder by the vigilante father.

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OVERGOATED posted...

Court documents also said that Eisenman told police he was probably under the influence of methamphetamine when he killed Sorensen.
He said at the time of the murder, he was using meth on a daily basis, according to the court documents.

Oh boy

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Yes, the guy he killed was literally some scrawny, autistic worm with no social circle. Trafficking has become a buzzword.

And that other case getting buzz about a Krystul Kizer that heroically killed her pimp in self defense? She went to his house(and bragged to others) to rob him and steal his car over a year after she had stopped dealing with him in any way. Hadn't seen this guy in over a year. Went there to rob him, killed him.

Cyntonia Brown wasn't pimped or trafficked either, which is why she was locked up. She slept with a drug dealer, and took one of his guns and killed him as he slept in bed, then stolle his money, drugs and jewelry and went partying with her freinds.

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Lemme guess CE was heavily on the father's side?

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I don't get it. CE said this was justified, what happened

Literally everyone with half a brain saw this coming lol

AngelicRadiance posted...

Lemme guess CE was heavily on the father's side?

From me glancing at those topics, yes, there was a strong tone of high-fiving for vigilante justice.

AngelicRadiance posted...

Lemme guess CE was heavily on the father's side?

As always

AHEM, erm, um, this is why we cant have vigilante justice! *frantically deletes posts from a few weeks ago*
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And if someone would have said ..oh we should wait for evidence they would have been attacked .

Fony posted... Cyntonia Brown wasn't pimped or trafficked either, which is why she was locked up. She slept with a drug dealer, and took one of his guns and killed him as he slept in bed, then stolle his money, drugs and jewelry and went partying with her freinds.

This I see that case all the timeo n Twitter and you can't correct people on this.


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Background_Guy posted...

Literally everyone with half a brain saw this coming lol

JimmyFraska posted...

I don't get it. CE said this was justified, what happened

Indeed.

AngelicRadiance posted...

Lemme guess CE was heavily on the father's side?

You know it.

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CE in shambles

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AngelicRadiance posted...

Lemme guess CE was heavily on the father's side?

Maybe thats a fair guess idk

Homie went from CE's Punisher to CE's Trevor Phillips

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She also said she had been homeless for three weeks and had been passed around for sex.
The officer notes, however, that she and Sorensen went to the Seattle area just three days before she ended up at the hospital in Spokane.

Have we ruled out time travel or that she might be from the mirror universe?

ahh fuck i was on the dad's side tbh

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KainWind posted...

CE in shambles

To be fair though, most of us (myself included) didnt read the article and just assumed that it was already known that the kid was guilty and thought Well if thats the case, good.

If I knew that it wasnt confirmed that he sex trafficked I wouldve withheld judgement.
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And CE was praising that guy is a hero

EffectAndCause posted...

To be fair though, most of us (myself included) didnt read the article and just assumed that it was already known that the kid was guilty and thought Well if thats the case, good.

If I knew that it wasnt confirmed that he sex trafficked I wouldve withheld judgement.

Sure ya didn't

I was on the dads side but will say I fucked up and should have waited for evidence.

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AngelicRadiance posted...

Lemme guess CE was heavily on the father's side?

Makes sense if you're operating purely on the idea that everything happened as presented

In reality this ended up being a bunch of meth junkies getting into it, so the results are ultimately unsurprising

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KainWind posted...

CE in shambles

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Maybe someone will learn something from thi- haha just kidding.

CyricZ victorious.

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But CE told me this man was a hero

Because we always believe the things murderers say

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Pretty predictable outcome.

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eston posted...

But CE told me this man was a hero

Because we always believe the things murderers say

You actually did maintain your opinion from the original topic, when most posters before you were doing what you said. So, well done.

I will admit I was wrong.

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So many people in the original topic now giving this one a wide berth.

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Gwynevere posted...

Makes sense if you're operating purely on the idea that everything happened as presented

At least this is usually safe to do on the internet

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What_ posted...

And CE was praising that guy is a hero

Yeah I remember that. This is why conclusions should not be jumped to.
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JimmyFraska posted...

You actually did maintain your opinion from the original topic, when most posters before you were doing what you said. So, well done.

I mean I hate to come across as gloating, but people were going hard on me and Cyric in that topic

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In all honesty? I debated this incident under the assumption that the murder victim was guilty of that crime. My goal was to establish my firmly-held belief that no one is worthy of taking someone else's life in vigilante judgment regardless of the crime committed except in cases of immediate threat.

That's what I took my share of grief over.

I didn't take a stance to challenge whether he was actually guilty of it or not, because I couldn't know either way, and any argument I made to that effect would be of little weight.

Regardless, this outcome, such as it is, only serves to underline a very practical reason not to support vigilante judgment, even if my argument was more along the moral/ethical avenues.

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CyricZ posted...

In all honesty? I debated this incident under the assumption that the murder victim was guilty of that crime. My goal was to establish my firmly-held belief that no one is worthy of taking someone else's life in vigilante judgment regardless of the crime committed except in cases of immediate threat.

That's what I took my share of grief over.

I didn't take a stance to challenge whether he was actually guilty of it or not, because I couldn't know either way, and any argument I made to that effect would be of little weight.

Regardless, this outcome, such as it is, only serves to underline a very practical reason not to support vigilante judgment, even if my argument was more along the moral/ethical avenues.

What about vigilantes that don't kill? Say, an irl Spider-Man? Not attacking you, just curious on your position.

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Many of CEs heroes tend to end up this way unfortunately

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SierraDawn posted...

What about vigilantes that don't kill? Say, an irl Spider-Man? Not attacking you, just curious on your position.

Well the thing is we don't have Spider-Man. We don't have a reliable and foolproof means of subduing criminals that wouldn't cause threat to their lives. Like webbing for example. We only have means that would potentially cause serious harm to someone if used improperly. Bats, punches, tasers. All things that could kill someone else.

I can get behind the ideals of a citizen looking to bring criminals to proper justice under the law, but the risks associated with that for both the citizen and the intended targets make it a poor idea in practical terms.

And then of course, the vigilante might also make mistakes, and themselves be subject to the law.

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EffectAndCause posted...

AHEM, erm, um, this is why we cant have vigilante justice! *frantically deletes posts from a few weeks ago*

This tbh.

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I remember being pretty sus on this since no evidence was presented outside of the guy's word. And I don't take the word of an admitted killer at face value.

CyricZ posted...

Well the thing is we don't have Spider-Man. We don't have a reliable and foolproof means of subduing criminals that wouldn't cause threat to their lives. Like webbing for example. We only have means that would potentially cause serious harm to someone if used improperly. Bats, punches, tasers. All things that could kill someone else.

I can get behind the ideals of a citizen looking to bring criminals to proper justice under the law, but the risks associated with that for both the citizen and the intended targets make it a poor idea in practical terms.

And then of course, the vigilante might also make mistakes, and themselves be subject to the law.

Well, that's part of the reason they wear masks lol.

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Mods, lock this topic for making us confront our issues

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@Slayer_22
Where's your messiah NOW?!

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SierraDawn posted...

Well, that's part of the reason they wear masks lol.

Just curious, is your username based on a reality tv show contestant?
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Machete posted...

Just curious, is your username based on a reality tv show contestant?

No. It's a play off my own name.

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Welp, guess I was wrong :V

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I was correct but even if I wasn't the people in that topic were implying that my stance was that of a bad person or sympathizing with sex traffickers. Y'all can eat crow.

Some were going harder than others. This is the type of shit screwing up our country. Limbic, emotional reactions and digging in on them.

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SierraDawn posted...

No. It's a play off my own name.

Ah okay
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I didn't realize the body sat in that trunk for a year before it was found. Holy shit. That guy's poor family

AngelicRadiance posted...

Lemme guess CE was heavily on the father's side?

Of course they were. They love taking a side before knowing any facts

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