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pauIie
12/13/21 10:32:12 PM
#51:


Buzz Killjoy posted...
Nah
same. killed everything but AV. but we tried.

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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 10:35:52 PM
#52:


Dakimakura posted...
And I am certain they did just fine without you. You weren't needed so you were kicked for crying too much.
I wasnt kicked lol?

Kim_Seong-a posted...
What dungeon was this?
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eggcorn
12/13/21 10:37:09 PM
#53:


ultimate reaver posted...
wait a minute your telling me some guys friends didnt ditch him to play video games with you?

Dakimakura posted...
tc sounds like the toxic one


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gunplagirl
12/13/21 10:37:19 PM
#54:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
What dungeon was this?
The last story dungeon, so the first of the three level 90 ones.

Odds are the guy was just playing one handed for whatever reason and eating or something else and as such he couldn't dodge mechanics there worth a darn, or at all.

I do get the frustration of that stuff, but carrying in a dungeon is part of the experience. If anything ask them to vote kick you out so you could avoid the 30 minute lock out for leaving.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/13/21 10:50:57 PM
#55:


It is annoying when people aren't playing effectively. That is for sure.

You don't know the circumstances of this player. What if he is developmentally delayed, or has a massive migraine, or who knows what? At the end of the day if you aren't having fun, quit the dungeon and join another group.

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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 11:16:59 PM
#56:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
It is annoying when people aren't playing effectively. That is for sure.

You don't know the circumstances of this player. What if he is developmentally delayed, or has a massive migraine, or who knows what? At the end of the day if you aren't having fun, quit the dungeon and join another group.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/13/21 11:20:48 PM
#57:


Yeah because one person with a handicap beating it means all should play to an elite level.

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Zikten
12/13/21 11:40:20 PM
#58:


Its one thing to expect excellence in a guild raid. But a dungeon with random? Look, I get it. You like to play "pro". But random dungeons is not a place where you have any right to judge others. Either quit the party next time or shut up
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Kloe_Rinz
12/13/21 11:41:46 PM
#59:


At first I questioned YoshiPs decision to ban add ons and the like, but when I remember people like TC exist and the bad experience of kicking culture in WoW, I realise YoshiP made the right choice
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AirFresh
12/13/21 11:43:47 PM
#60:


I don't play this game but doesn't it have some seed growing system that takes literally over 100 hundred hours to remove from your username? To show that this person might not be that great but this is why?

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pauIie
12/13/21 11:45:18 PM
#61:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
Yeah because one person with a handicap beating it means all should play to an elite level.
or that everyone has the same handicap or that people with the same handicap are at the same stage of adapting to it

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AirFresh
12/13/21 11:50:43 PM
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Also using a fucking spreadsheet is Walmart manager levels of stupid TC honestly it's a fucking video game dude. Not everyone is going to give DA BEST RESULTS. Don't even play this and I'm getting a little salty lol and like literal MILLIONS have joined it because of the WoW debacle. If someone is new you help them, it's what an actual veteran player should do. It's toxicity like this which is why I have yet to download it despite being free. I don't want to be yelled at in a social game for not being perfect my first time.

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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 11:51:22 PM
#63:


AirFresh posted...
Also using a fucking spreadsheet is Walmart manager levels of stupid TC honestly it's a fucking video game dude. Not everyone is going to give DA BEST RESULTS. Don't even play this and I'm getting a little salty lol and like literal MILLIONS have joined it because of the WoW debacle. If someone is new you help them, it's what an actual veteran player should do. It's toxicity like this which is why I have yet to download it despite being free. I don't want to be yelled at in a social game for not being perfect my first time.
its not a spreadsheet lol
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AirFresh
12/13/21 11:52:21 PM
#64:


It's walmart manager level shit where you're looking at some statistics and evaluating someone's existence based off it in a fucking video game

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OudeGeuze
12/13/21 11:53:02 PM
#65:


also, the dude is literally using the first 3 abilities you get (by level SIX) and refusing to use anything more

its absolutely being a shitty/lazy player on purpose

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MysteryMan923
12/13/21 11:58:48 PM
#66:


AirFresh posted...
It's walmart manager level shit where you're looking at some statistics and evaluating someone's existence based off it in a fucking video game

He's just evaluating how the guy is as a teammate. I doubt he's new if he's in a high level dungeon.

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OudeGeuze
12/14/21 12:00:03 AM
#67:


AirFresh posted...
It's walmart manager level shit where you're looking at some statistics and evaluating someone's existence based off it in a fucking video game
also its literally one of the last 3 dungeons of the game, new player excuse is lost far before then
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AirFresh
12/14/21 12:00:46 AM
#68:


Okay TC I'm a little hammered so I'm being a bit confrontational. I did say I didn't play the game but if this is someone you've had to deal with and they are being an intentional shitter than this is fine. Didn't mean to come at you as hard as I did when this is probably resulted by genuine frustration lol

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Gobstoppers12
12/14/21 12:01:30 AM
#69:


Imagine being that guy and his friends, probably in discord laughing at the random try-hard who keeps failing to kick one of them lol

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AirFresh
12/14/21 12:01:55 AM
#70:


Okay that makes sense I'm sorry I came at you lol they probably wasted a significant chunk of your time being a shitter if they are that far.

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OudeGeuze
12/14/21 12:02:40 AM
#71:


Gobstoppers12 posted...
Imagine being that guy and his friends, probably in discord laughing at the random try-hard who keeps failing to kick one of them lol
imagine intentionally griefing people in a multiplayer game by actively refusing to actually do whats expected of you

imagine enabling and supporting that behavior
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AirFresh
12/14/21 12:04:05 AM
#72:


Griefing can be funny and in fact hilarious but not in a game like this where you're probably legit wasting 30+ minutes of peeps time by being a shitter. I don't even play this game and I can understand TC's frustrations lol

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Gobstoppers12
12/14/21 12:04:18 AM
#73:


OudeGeuze posted...
imagine intentionally griefing people in a multiplayer game by actively refusing to actually do whats expected of you

imagine enabling and supporting that behavior
Imagine how easy it is to just let people play the game without stressing over it.

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MysteryMan923
12/14/21 12:05:24 AM
#74:


Might not be intentional. He could legitimately be that stupid. I ran into people legitimately that stupid in pickup parties back in ffxi.

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AirFresh
12/14/21 12:06:39 AM
#75:


TC realistically how many hours would it take for a player to get to that point? I'm assuming 200+. At that point being a shitter you need to call out.

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OudeGeuze
12/14/21 12:06:51 AM
#76:


MysteryMan923 posted...
Might not be intentional. He could legitimately be that stupid. I ran into people legitimately that stupid in pickup parties back in ffxi.
you have to literally use your other skills in job quests to progress in them/level up, by refusing to use anything beyond three skills you have at level 6 in level 90 content you're being a shitter on purpose
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OudeGeuze
12/14/21 12:08:22 AM
#77:


AirFresh posted...
TC realistically how many hours would it take for a player to get to that point? I'm assuming 200+. At that point being a shitter you need to call out.
starting fresh from level 1 to cap in ff14 would be easily 100+ hours
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Rharyx211
12/14/21 12:28:42 AM
#79:


OudeGeuze posted...
you have to literally use your other skills in job quests to progress in them/level up, by refusing to use anything beyond three skills you have at level 6 in level 90 content you're being a shitter on purpose
Which means he was probably just doing some self-imposed challenge in order to make a dungeon he's already completed more entertaining/not a complete drag.

At the end of the day, the only one who comes out of this situation looking like an asshole is you for parsing other players.

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mybbqrules
12/14/21 12:36:10 AM
#80:


My rule as the tank when people used to try to votekick over performance in wow (which I haven't dealt with for a while. The only thing that'll get you kicked from non mythic now is being afk) was

"Are we clearing the content without wipes? Then we're fine."

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The-19th-Sparta
12/14/21 12:37:02 AM
#81:


It's pretty sad to see the majority of people in this topic defending a moron using only 3 games on a job that has 2 pages worth of skills to use.

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TreyFlowers
12/14/21 12:39:44 AM
#82:


I'm with TC, in the sense that if you're going to play an MMO and do group content, play your best to not gimp the group

However, random queues/LFG/LFD/whatever are open to shit players, hence why I avoid them.

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OudeGeuze
12/14/21 12:44:57 AM
#83:


Rharyx211 posted...
Which means he was probably just doing some self-imposed challenge in order to make a dungeon he's already completed more entertaining/not a complete drag.
which is something you do in a premade or agreed upon beforehand, not with randoms

and even if that was the case, it doesnt excuse the fact he constantly messed up mechanics (not moving out of giant aoe markers) and brought the group down
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ExtremeLuchador
12/14/21 12:46:54 AM
#84:


They still votekick you over nothing in WoW. I'll be playing battlegrounds and I'm suddenly booted without explanation.

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Mearcstapa
12/14/21 12:53:08 AM
#85:


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ryudo500
12/14/21 12:55:16 AM
#86:


@OudeGeuze plz post this in FFXIV would love ot hear responses, imwith youthat he needs to learn to play his classa nd his friends imo are worst

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MorganTJ
12/14/21 12:58:02 AM
#87:


You shouldve left after the kick failed then.
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DeadBankerDream
12/14/21 1:03:22 AM
#88:


Refusing to leave the party seems like you refusing to take any responsibility for how your time is spent and blaming others incessantly for it.

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OudeGeuze
12/14/21 1:09:21 AM
#89:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Refusing to leave the party seems like you refusing to take any responsibility for how your time is spent and blaming others incessantly for it.

MorganTJ posted...
You shouldve left after the kick failed then.
abandoning results in a half hour penalty of being unable to queue up for group content, which is only further increased by queue times as a damage class

e: and purposefully playing like shit is objectively wasting others' time, especially when leaving to avoid shitty players results in you being penalized by the game
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DeadBankerDream
12/14/21 1:10:39 AM
#90:


Good thing you don't need to queue every single waking moment of your life.

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Bloodmoon77
12/14/21 1:10:57 AM
#91:


Constructive criticism goes a long way in ff14. Vote to kick does not...

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YsmirWulfharth
12/14/21 1:12:09 AM
#92:


ExtremeLuchador posted...
They still votekick you over nothing in WoW. I'll be playing battlegrounds and I'm suddenly booted without explanation.
My all time favorite thing in dungeons when people were arguing would be to initiate a kick and say "kick the pally" (me) but target it at another player, they'd all vote yes, then the group would get pissed and fall apart.

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OudeGeuze
12/14/21 1:12:19 AM
#93:


DeadBankerDream posted...
Good thing you don't need to queue every single waking moment of your life.
yeah god forbid i choose to use my free time on a monday night to play video games in a way id like to enjoy them
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DeadBankerDream
12/14/21 1:13:25 AM
#94:


You didn't.

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OudeGeuze
12/14/21 1:14:23 AM
#95:


DeadBankerDream posted...
You didn't.
you're right, i wasnt able to due to shitty players, said behavior being reinforced by other players, and choosing to leave would penalize me in game
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DeadBankerDream
12/14/21 1:16:22 AM
#96:


I'm sorry you have only one thing you like to do on a monday night and you can't possibly do anything else if your first priority is off the table, but you being able to do said thing is reliable on other people not falling below your standards.

That sounds like it sucks.

And is entirely a you problem.

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ColdOne666
12/14/21 1:20:00 AM
#97:


DarthAragorn posted...
Imagine being such a turd you use external programs to judge people in fucking dungeons

Not raids, dungeons


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Teh_Dr_Phil
12/14/21 1:26:58 AM
#98:


ultimate reaver posted...
wait a minute your telling me some guys friends didnt ditch him to play video games with you?

Dakimakura posted...
tc sounds like the toxic one


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Kisai
12/14/21 1:34:28 AM
#99:


"If you don't play the way I want you to play, then you're making a deliberate and conscious choice to fuck with me."

That's a pretty shitty and narcissistic attitude, TC.

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known2FAIL
12/14/21 1:35:55 AM
#100:


ultimate reaver posted...
wait a minute your telling me some guys friends didnt ditch him to play video games with you?

Dakimakura posted...
tc sounds like the toxic one


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