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So I just finished episode 2 and what the hell are they doing with this series? This is so far off the books for no reason:

1. Leshens cant reproduce.
2. Eskel doesnt die at all, and they could have killed any no name Witcher here.
3. Vessimir wouldnt just let whores be brought to Kaer Morhen
4. Why is Nilfgaard now a religious cult?

I haven't read the books, just played the games, but I'm not a fan of some of this shit

Eskel is a background character in the books, hes barely in them. His death isnt a problem.

Maybe you should finish the season

1- How would a tree monster reproduce? I don't want to imagine Treebeard humping a tree, but that's all I got.
2- There were half a dozen no name Witchers there, but instead they killed one of the fan favourites (from the games).
3- If you look at a map of where Kaer Morhen is, it is pretty far from the nearest town or city. Them whores would have been riding for days by wagon. What kind of deposit would you have to put down for that?
4- They have had their cult of the Great Sun for a while, but The White Flame is a title the Emperor uses. The reverence they use, suggests gratitude for turning the empire from a laughing stock to the major power in the world.

NullAndVoidFC posted...

Eskel is a background character in the books, hes barely in them. His death isnt a problem.

Its less about that and more about y tho.

Why not is the better question. It literally makes no difference to the adaptation because Eskel will never play a role in the books. The other changes are more questionable, but again its an adaptation for a different audience.

Vermander posted...

Its less about that and more about y tho.

Because it makes us feel bad for Geralt for having to kill someone he saw as a little brother...

NullAndVoidFC posted...

Why not is the better question. It literally makes no difference to the adaptation because Eskel will never play a role in the books. The other changes are more questionable, but again its an adaptation for a different audience.

My concern is theyre clearly just going to write their own narrative so far from the source material.

Vermander posted...

My concern is theyre clearly just going to write their own narrative so far from the source material.

Dude is a background character its not like they rewrote ciri and yen ... oh wait

My guess is that Geralt and Yennefer will have a much larger role in terms of politics influencing the war. As you probably know, they are nearly irrelevant in that aspect in the original story. And that's very important in terms of theme.

But the portrayal of Nilfgaard might be my least favorite change.

Vermander posted...

My concern is theyre clearly just going to write their own narrative so far from the source material.

They are. The books are always there for you though.

Jabodie posted...

My guess is that Geralt and Yennefer will have a much larger role in terms of politics influencing the war. As you probably know, they are nearly irrelevant in that aspect in the original story. And that's very important in terms of theme.

But the portrayal of Nilfgaard might be my least favorite change.

This is what annoys me though, because its not just the narrative theyre changing but the core lore. The idea is Witchers arent supposed to involve themselves in politics.

The books still exists, TV is a different medium. They want the masses to watch it.

NullAndVoidFC posted...

They are. The books are always there for you though.

There is a difference between minor changes, and literally rewriting lore and core concepts.

Not really, its a critically acclaimed and very popular series.

Jabodie posted...

My guess is that Geralt and Yennefer will have a much larger role in terms of politics influencing the war. As you probably know, they are nearly irrelevant in that aspect in the original story. And that's very important in terms of theme.

But the portrayal of Nilfgaard might be my least favorite change.

I'm only a few episodes into Season 2 and haven't read the books, however I am about half way through The Witcher 3 game, and one thing I really liked about the game is that niether the Nilfgaard empire nor the Northern Kingdoms are the good guys/bad guys. There are good people on both sides, but most people on both sides are ass holes and Geralt doesn't really care about either one winning. Is that how the books are? Seems like the show is making Nilfgaard into something like Mordor, the clear evil doers.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

I'm only a few episodes into Season 2 and haven't read the books, however I am about half way through The Witcher 3 game, and one thing I really liked about the game is that niether the Nilfgaard empire nor the Northern Kingdoms are the good guys/bad guys. There are good people on both sides, but most people on both sides are ass holes and Geralt doesn't really care about either one winning. Is that how the books are? Seems like the show is making Nilfgaard into something like Mordor, the clear evil doers.

I always thought Nilfgard to be the good guys. You have Redania and Temeria persecuting anyone different (elves, half-elves, mages), whereas Nilfgard welcomes them with open arms.

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

I'm only a few episodes into Season 2 and haven't read the books, however I am about half way through The Witcher 3 game, and one thing I really liked about the game is that niether the Nilfgaard empire nor the Northern Kingdoms are the good guys/bad guys. There are good people on both sides, but most people on both sides are ass holes and Geralt doesn't really care about either one winning. Is that how the books are? Seems like the show is making Nilfgaard into something like Mordor, the clear evil doers.

In the books, the dichotomy between Nilfgaard and the North is of a freedom vs despotic order imo. The unifying trait between the two is that the leadership of both view the people under them as pawns in a political game.

Nilfgaard is definitely a villain in the books for being an aggressor of multiple wars that destroy towns, allows marauders to rob, rape, and kill innocent people, and destroy the cultures of the places they conquor. But they didn't have weird cartoon villain stuff like they do in the show.

008Zulu posted...

I always thought Nilfgard to be the good guys. You have Redania and Temeria persecuting anyone different (elves, half-elves, mages), whereas Nilfgard welcomes them with open arms.

Nilfgaard sent in spies to incite this discord in the first place, and escalate the violence by supplying resources and information to guerrilla groups performing what are basically hate crimes against random civilians. Then sold out all of the Squirrels on their payroll to secure peace negotiations, then forced the Nilfgaardians out of their homes and back to Nilfgaard to delay the North rebuilding the economy more quickly to establish long term economic dominance.