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cjsdowg
12/29/21 4:44:00 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/7/1/AABqjYAACwI_.jpg

I found a number of people on line posting it. However I have not gotten the ad/ post myself so I can not confirm that it is real.

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VigorouslySwish
12/29/21 4:50:23 PM
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The rich cant stand waiting more than 15 minutes for their food. They wont have it.

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gamer167
12/29/21 4:56:09 PM
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Pretty sure thats fake, bubba.

Purposefully designed for people to see, get angry about it, and spread the misinformation via reposting to make other people angry.

Unless someone can find the original, because I dont see it.
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Jx1010
12/30/21 11:45:38 AM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Ok but why reduce quarantine to 5 days then?
That new change this week doesnt make sense

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Tenlaar
12/30/21 11:45:42 AM
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Are you saying you disagree, TC? That its better to be out sick with covid and not getting paid than to be protected by the vaccine?
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TheHoldSteady
12/30/21 11:54:02 AM
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Jx1010 posted...
Ok but why reduce quarantine to 5 days then?
That new change this week doesnt make sense

It makes sense to me.

The guidance is asymptomatic people can stop quarantining after 5 days.

If you don't have symptoms after five days the research shows that you're not going to spread it.

The only thing I would add is a negative test after 5 days.

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Jeff AKA Snoopy
12/30/21 11:54:31 AM
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Anti-Vax morons might understand the money element. Maybe.

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CreekCo
12/30/21 11:57:10 AM
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Jx1010 posted...
Ok but why reduce quarantine to 5 days then?
That new change this week doesnt make sense

$$$

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EmbraceOfDeath
12/30/21 11:57:14 AM
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Jx1010 posted...
Ok but why reduce quarantine to 5 days then?
That new change this week doesnt make sense
I mean, we already know full well that it's from corporate pressure.

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Jx1010
12/30/21 12:04:39 PM
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EmbraceOfDeath posted...
I mean, we already know full well that it's from corporate pressure.
U sure? The guy above says people cant spread it, how does that make sense?

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Tenlaar
12/30/21 12:59:35 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

No, hes not. Saying youre not going to spread it after that long as a definitive statement is a little strong but true in the majority of cases.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1227-isolation-quarantine-guidance.html

The change is motivated by science demonstrating that the majority of SARS-CoV-2 transmission occurs early in the course of illness, generally in the 1-2 days prior to onset of symptoms and the 2-3 days after.
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Trumble
12/30/21 1:02:10 PM
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What exactly do you think it "tells"?

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Jx1010
12/30/21 1:03:10 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
No, hes not. Saying youre not going to spread it after that long as a definitive statement is a little strong but true in the majority of cases.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/s1227-isolation-quarantine-guidance.html
So why wait till the end of 2021 to release this information to the public?

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LostForest
12/30/21 1:04:06 PM
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VigorouslySwish posted...
The rich cant stand waiting more than 15 minutes for their food. They wont have it.

This isn't exclusive to rich people.

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Trumble
12/30/21 1:08:42 PM
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Jx1010 posted...
So why wait till the end of 2021 to release this information to the public?

Do you think they just magically know everything from day one or something? Or for that matter, that they aren't balancing what helps reduce risk, with what's realistic and practical for people to actually do, and what people might still be willing to do at any point in time?

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Jx1010
12/30/21 1:09:57 PM
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Trumble posted...
Do you think they just magically know everything from day one or something? Or for that matter, that they aren't balancing what helps reduce risk, with what's realistic and practical for people to actually do, and what people might still be willing to do at any point in time?
So u answer my question with a question

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Trumble
12/30/21 1:10:33 PM
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Jx1010 posted...
So u answer my question with a question
When you answer my question, you will understand why yours is utterly ridiculous.

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Jx1010
12/30/21 1:16:09 PM
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Trumble posted...
When you answer my question, you will understand why yours is utterly ridiculous.
What exactly is your question?

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Trumble
12/30/21 1:20:11 PM
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Jx1010 posted...
What exactly is your question?

Trumble posted...
Do you think they just magically know everything from day one or something? Or for that matter, that they aren't balancing what helps reduce risk, with what's realistic and practical for people to actually do, and what people might still be willing to do at any point in time?


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Damn_Underscore
12/30/21 1:25:24 PM
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Right wing antivaxxers claimed for the longest time that the CDC was lying because at first they said masks werent necessary, but then they said the opposite so they are obviously flip-flopping liars. The response to them every time was that they said they werent effective until research told them otherwise. In fact, the belief that they are flip-flopping comes straight from political discourse and is cancerous af

In short, get proof of what you are claiming or shut up.

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Jx1010
12/30/21 1:27:21 PM
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Im so confused

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Trumble
12/30/21 1:27:44 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The response to them every time was that they said they werent effective until research told them otherwise.
In the early days, only China had any significant number of cases so other authorities around the world had to rely solely on what China told us. China frequently lied - for example the whole claim that there's "no human-to-human transmission" persisting until late-Jan / early-Feb, even though China had known this since before they even admitted the virus existed.

Once information from non-China countries started flowing in, the advice very quickly got MUCH better. And likewise, the countries that did well in the very very early stages, such as Taiwan, did so by ignoring the China-influenced advice and going with best assumptions for an unknown virus.

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Tenlaar
12/30/21 1:30:57 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Thats a nice way of dodging acknowledging that youre spouting bullshit and calling the CDCs info misinformation.
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Jx1010
12/30/21 1:45:30 PM
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People need to start posting where they got their info from

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hockeybub89
12/30/21 2:02:11 PM
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It's so fucking transparent that business is motivating the changes because public health isn't as important as not having to pay employees for sick time off or small businesses who need assistance in this time of need. Greed is king.

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Tenlaar
12/30/21 2:25:26 PM
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Thats misinformation because its only true most of the time! is a pretty stupid argument.
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Trumble
12/30/21 2:26:47 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
Thats misinformation because its only true most of the time! is a pretty stupid argument.

"You can't spread it after this time" is misinformation. "You're not very likely to spread it after this time" is not. They're different statements, not just different degrees of the same one.

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Jx1010
12/30/21 2:50:48 PM
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Trumble posted...
"You can't spread it after this time" is misinformation. "You're not very likely to spread it after this time" is not. They're different statements, not just different degrees of the same one.
Dude just stop, u are spreading misinformation.

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MrToothHasYou
12/30/21 2:54:31 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/7/7/AAVdKdAACwVl.jpg

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Background_Guy
12/30/21 2:55:06 PM
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We truly live in a society
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Trumble
12/30/21 2:55:44 PM
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Jx1010 posted...
Dude just stop, u are spreading misinformation.
No, I am not. You're claiming that the CDC are liars simply because their advice changed over time, in line with relevant knowledge about the virus, the differences that new variants have made, the difference that vaccination rates make, the differences in what people are actually willing to comply with... whereas you seem to believe that they should've been able to, right from day one, make one single rule that would hold up as the best possible answer for the entire pandemic.

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SweetieBeIle462
12/30/21 2:56:26 PM
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Why is the ad so bad?

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Jx1010
12/30/21 3:00:37 PM
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Trumble posted...
No, I am not. You're claiming that the CDC are liars simply because their advice changed over time, in line with relevant knowledge about the virus, the differences that new variants have made, the difference that vaccination rates make, the differences in what people are actually willing to comply with... whereas you seem to believe that they should've been able to, right from day one, make one single rule that would hold up as the best possible answer for the entire pandemic.
I never claimed anything and never claimed they are liars. You saying this clearly shows u are here to troll and stir arguments.
I listen to the CDC and came here asking questions because now Im confused.

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Damn_Underscore
12/30/21 4:53:55 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


Once again, get some evidence or shut up. Your political agenda is leaking all over and you need to stop politicizing Covid. It's been bad enough with Trumpers doing it for the last two years.

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nfearurspecimn
12/30/21 5:00:17 PM
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So is it just fake or not?

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RobertDoback
12/30/21 6:21:04 PM
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Trumble posted...
"You can't spread it after this time" is misinformation. "You're not very likely to spread it after this time" is not. They're different statements, not just different degrees of the same one.


Thank you.

Damn_Underscore posted...
Once again, get some evidence or shut up. Your political agenda is leaking all over and you need to stop politicizing Covid. It's been bad enough with Trumpers doing it for the last two years.


What the hell are you on about?

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Inferno Dive Dragoon
12/30/21 6:26:29 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Regardless of the ad being real or not

It's so fucking transparent that business is motivating the changes because public health isn't as important as not having to pay employees for sick time off or small businesses who need assistance in this time of need. Greed is king.


Capitalism out here trying to prove it can indeed amass the biggest body count.

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Damn_Underscore
12/30/21 7:27:29 PM
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RobertDoback posted...
What the hell are you on about?

The team I'm on in this situation is the anti-conspiracy theory team

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RobertDoback
12/30/21 7:28:56 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The team I'm on in this situation is the anti-conspiracy theory team


Um. What conspiracy theory are you referring to?

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Damn_Underscore
12/30/21 7:32:20 PM
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RobertDoback posted...
Um. What conspiracy theory are you referring to?

The conspiracy theory that the CDC's recommendation isn't legit and based on research, but rather giving in to big corporations who need workers. A bunch of people here are claiming that.

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RobertDoback
12/30/21 7:37:29 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
The conspiracy theory that the CDC's recommendation isn't legit and based on research, but rather giving in to big corporations who need workers. A bunch of people here are claiming that.


There is overwhelming evidence that suggest such.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1476410248542007298?t=RQNxHT_ur-O7J4Sn9lH-tA&s=19

https://twitter.com/PPEtoheros/status/1476203812654301186?t=AqmSSpf7Q796Y9dOlNE2Aw&s=19

https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1475833861338763271?t=iVpB_cvYWeqxgGD9LASh5g&s=19

And many health experts are wondering where their evidence is and are criticizing.

https://twitter.com/DrTomori/status/1476194159115522049?t=gsgDKe3f4w6NXVhs8zf0vg&s=19

https://twitter.com/gregggonsalves/status/1476208218879795204?t=ujROLRvyPL_RzKiFNOv6nA&s=19

https://twitter.com/michaelmina_lab/status/1476041025076539392?t=QFB851z3nGiFaIDf7C186g&s=19

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Damn_Underscore
12/30/21 7:41:17 PM
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Sorry, but I don't care what some twitter accounts have to say.

Show me a major news organization that questions the CDC's new guidance and I'll reconsider my position.

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Trumble
12/30/21 7:42:54 PM
#49:


Damn_Underscore posted...
Sorry, but I don't care what some twitter accounts have to say.

Show me a major news organization that questions the CDC's new guidance and I'll reconsider my position.
Journalists are not more credible than literal fucking health experts.

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RobertDoback
12/30/21 7:44:52 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Sorry, but I don't care what some twitter accounts have to say.

Show me a major news organization that questions the CDC's new guidance and I'll reconsider my position.


...CNN is literally in one of those tweets questioning this very move.

You guys are like the teachers who didn't accept Wikipedia. Stop dismissing Twitter. Some of these accounts are from verified epidemiologists and they are using it as a platform to voice their opinions. You sound out of touch, and to dismiss my evidence is a cop out.

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