Current Events > 17 year old accused of shooting 16 year old girlfriend 22 times released on bond

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https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/diamond-alvarez-murder-suspect-released-on-bond/285-b057bd16-03ee-410b-8af2-5d4803d98040

Who lets someone like that go back into society to await their trial? Absolute failure of the justice system, even more so than it already is in general.

Number090684 posted...

Who lets someone like that go back into society to await their trial? Absolute failure of the justice system, even more so than it already is in general.

Society is wanting to coddle criminals these days for some reason.

This dude was packing his bags when police arrested him. Why the fuck would they let him post bail?

Prosecutors said Deleon was 'attempting to pack his bags to flee the jurisdiction' and had a suitcase and clothes on his bed when he was apprehended by police.

NoxObscuras posted...

This dude was packing his bags when police arrested him. Why the fuck would they let him post bail?

If I wascto hazard a guess it is because he is under 18.

Jesus fucking Christ, even in Texas? I thought they took the war on crime a little more seriously down there.

garan posted...

Jesus fucking Christ, even in Texas? I thought they took the war on crime a little more seriously down there.

He must have rich relatives or something.

Why the fuck was he let out on bail? The justice system is so fucked up.

Bump

Bail for murder should not fucking exist.

So he cheats on her and then meets up with her at a park only to shoot her, mostly in the back.
Triple fucked up.

rich white guy rights sure are a thing huh?

Good lord why

wtf

Number090684 posted...

Who lets someone like that go back into society to await their trial? Absolute failure of the justice system, even more so than it already is in general.

"Who lets somebody accused of a crime exercise a legal right? They should be convicted without benefit of trial, based on what I heard on the internet!"

Monolith1676 posted...

Society is wanting to coddle criminals these days for some reason.

>Talks about him not going to trial yet
>Criminal

I know CE is awful when it comes to the law, but you can't be convicted of a crime before going to trial or plea-bargaining.

NoxObscuras posted...

This dude was packing his bags when police arrested him. Why the fuck would they let him post bail?

Because you need something stronger than packing bags when arguing somebody is a serious flight risk? And a 17 y/o generally isn't going to have the resources, knowledge, or anything else to get away.

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Because he didn't flee the first time? Unless you mean allegedly leaving the scene of the crime, which is true of almost everybody charged with a crime but, again, the basis for that would be the assumption they committed the crime which is the whole basis for the trial (you know, the thing that hasn't happened yet)

GiftedACIII posted...

Bail for murder should not fucking exist.

What about the situations where the accused is innocent?

TheGoldenEel posted...

What about the situations where the accused is innocent?

They should be able to be compensated greatly by the courts afterwards. This whataboutism is silly. Should mass shooters get bail because they have the possibility of being innocent? If someone raped and killed your kid in front of your eyes do you think they should get bail?

GiftedACIII posted...

They should be able to be compensated greatly by the courts afterwards. This whataboutism is silly. Should mass shooters get bail because they have the possibility of being innocent? If someone raped and killed your kid in front of your eyes do you think they should get bail?

bail should be a cases by case basis

our system is founded on a presumption of innocent until proven guilty. So knowing that, the answer to your question is yes, unless there are special extenuating circumstances, people should not be jailed until they are found guilty by the jury of their peers that they are entitled to

There are exceedingly few people who would willingly trade some extended amount of time in jail for a meager payout from the city if they are innocent

He got off easy because he's under 18. That's pretty obvious. Woman and children always get a slap on the wrist with the law.

Probably has some scum lawyer to thank for. Seriously, the next shittiest group of scum after actual criminals are lawyers.

Thats Texas for ya!

GiftedACIII posted...

Bail should not fucking exist.

Fixed

TheGoldenEel posted...

bail should be a cases by case basis

our system is founded on a presumption of innocent until proven guilty. So knowing that, the answer to your question is yes, unless there are special extenuating circumstances, people should not be jailed until they are found guilty by the jury of their peers that they are entitled to

There are exceedingly few people who would willingly trade some extended amount of time in jail for a meager payout from the city if they are innocent

And in this case, when he's the main suspect of shooting someone 22 times and was even caught packing his bags this suspect shouldn't be given bail. But no, the point of holding murderers and violent criminals is so that they're in custody and unable to harm anyone else. Preventing further victims is more important than the chance they're innocent. Trials take a long time. However, I know you're just an inconsistent and biased hypocrite. In another topic you were calling a dad who accidentally shot his daughter through negligence to be locked up for murder.

Let me guess, he's an upper middle class white kid.

Solar_Crimson posted...

He must have rich relatives or something.

I think you only have to pay 10% to get out right away. Still, 25k is a lot to scrounge up at short notice.

Good thing he's white. /s

Just curious...

Is there a world of difference between being convicted of a crime you may not have committed, and being denied bail for a crime you're still being investigated for?

Asking for a friend.

GiftedACIII posted...

Preventing further victims is more important than the chance they're innocent.

I disagree.

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Firstly, you followed the format of my post, but didn't say you were asking for a friend. So I am not obligated to answer you.

Secondly, who is doing the stalking, and why? This information is important.

Antifar posted...

I disagree.

It's the reason why mass murderers aren't given bond and why bail needs money in the first place rather than just releasing every arrested suspect onto the streets.

GiftedACIII posted...

It's the reason why mass murderers aren't given bond and why bail needs money in the first place rather than just releasing every arrested suspect onto the streets.

This guy shelled up the money. And cash bail just serves to keep poor people behind bars before they've been convicted.

How does he get bail for the massive overkill of his girlfriend, yet a black woman in Tennessee gets sentenced to 6 years in jail for not understanding voting laws?

Antifar posted...

This guy shelled up the money. And cash bail just serves to keep poor people behind bars before they've been convicted.

This guy isn't a mass murderer. But he shouldn't be able to have bail either.
And that is true but that's the reason why cash bail exists. I would be fine with all non-violent suspects having free bond while all violent suspects can wait.

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What reward would you like for detecting the blatantly obvious?

Asking for a friend. *winks*

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By being stalked, do you actually mean being investigated, or is this about police abuse of power?

Not entirely sure what it is you're arguing in favour of here.

GiftedACIII posted...

And in this case, when he's the main suspect of shooting someone 22 times and was even caught packing his bags this suspect shouldn't be given bail. But no, the point of holding murderers and violent criminals is so that they're in custody and unable to harm anyone else. Preventing further victims is more important than the chance they're innocent. However, I know you're just an inconsistent and biased hypocrite. In another topic you were calling a dad who accidentally shot his daughter through negligence to be locked up for murder.

sounds like you are presuming that people who are taken in are guilty of committing crimes they haven't been tried for

Fam_Fam posted...

sounds like you are presuming that people who are taken in are guilty of committing crimes they haven't been tried for

It's called taking precaution. Otherwise arrests wouldn't exist.