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AceMos
01/31/22 4:58:11 AM
#306:


ive only been focused on autism you know

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ZevLoveDOOM
01/31/22 5:00:40 AM
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i dunno man, while i do think this could potential help people who really need it, i do have my reservations regarding the whole idea of implanting a chip on your brain...

what if this thing explodes? or if they wire it to control someone's mind or whatever? its scary to think about it.
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AceMos
01/31/22 5:02:48 AM
#308:


ZevLoveDOOM posted...
what if this thing explodes? or if they wire it to control someone's mind or whatever? its scary to think about it.
you are thinking to small

if musks magic pixie dust worked parents could design their childs personality at birth

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ZevLoveDOOM
01/31/22 5:05:55 AM
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AceMos posted...
you are thinking to small

if musks magic pixie dust worked parents could design their childs personality at birth

that would imply the parents could control your chip through an app or something.

which admittedly, does sound scary as fuck...
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dancing_cactuar
01/31/22 5:11:44 AM
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AceMos posted...
ive only been focused on autism you know
It's too bad your tweet/quote also mentioned schizophrenia then. Still doesn't change how you're being a crab in a bucket for people with issues that cannot function in any capacity in a normal society, which can be picked up on before a child is even 3 so they'd be as consenting as they are when they get all their needed vaccines in order to enter schools in their future. And also:

dancing_cactuar posted...
This is literally nowhere in your opening post or title, so you've moved the goalposts significantly with this argument which was originally "fuck Elon Musk for wanting to have computer chips that can cure autism and schizophrenia"

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gaminggamer13
01/31/22 5:41:07 AM
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This chip sounds amazing, I don't speak for everyone, but I subjectively, would love to actually be somewhat normal. That said, inserting a chip in the brain definitely sounds like high risk surgery, and for Elon Musk, someone who genuinely has no experience in brain surgery, I'd be hesitant actually undergoing the procedure.

Though, Elon Musk's idea is completely hypothetical, it probably won't ever happen, but man would it be nice for people with schizophrenia and autism to actually be given an opportunity to be normal functioning members of society and not leeching of disability payments, spending their recreational time constantly goalshift posting on a gamefaqs topic. But hey, what would I know, I've only read 310 messages.
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TheSavageDragon
01/31/22 5:52:42 AM
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AceMos posted...
i think you vastly misunderstand my stance

i dont want things forced on children your example is a parent forcing something on a child

Here's the thing...for a great deal of people on the lower end of the spectrum "being forced by parents" is their entire life. I've taught in high schools for the severely disabled. I've met 21 year olds that can only share their thoughts and feelings through grunts and some very limited sign language (some not even that).
Every single aspect of their existence is controlled by someone else. They are entirely dependent on the whims of others. If this "cure" is "forced" on them by their legal guardian they have the chance to finally make a decision for themselves.
You can sit here and claim it as part of your identity because you have the ability to do so.. Meanwhile I've seen people trying to unsuccessfully convey their emotions/needs burst into tears numerous times.

I live in a country with awesome social benefits. In a city that's actually famous for being a pioneer in mental healthcare. And still ended up as a 16 year old intern being left unsupervised for hours on end with 20 people that ranged from barely speaking to not at all. That shit's just not okay. And it happens daily all over the world. If there's a chance these people 's well-being wouldn't depend on inexperienced or uncaring individuals I support that 100%
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Esrac
01/31/22 6:39:06 AM
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AceMos posted...
oh its a disability

what i said is its not a defect

Those are the same thing. Disabilities are defects.

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It really all falls into place. He objects to the idea of a cure, because if he were cured he wouldn't be able to collect his monthly tugboat anymore.
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spikethedevil
01/31/22 6:41:56 AM
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Yeah you can fuck off with calling disabilities defects.

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viewmaster_pi
01/31/22 6:45:46 AM
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TC, perhaps you should not die on this hill and simply be grateful you have family and government social programs looking out for you, and that you're in the higher-functioning end of the spectrum, while understanding that many many others- a significant amount of others- aren't as lucky

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Esrac
01/31/22 6:49:25 AM
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spikethedevil posted...
Yeah you can fuck off with calling disabilities defects.

They are though. It might not be kind to say, but its true.

If you're blind, you have defective eyes. If you're deaf, you have defective ears. If you can't walk, you have defective legs or spine, etc.
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Lairen
01/31/22 6:51:50 AM
#317:


This topic is a trap....

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cuttin_in_farm
01/31/22 6:55:08 AM
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Lairen posted...
When it rains, it pours.


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Kim_Seong-a
01/31/22 7:00:00 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Bezos invests in it and chip gives you an orgasm whenever you work super hard for amazon or buy from them.

There's a book that sort of delves into this idea. Autonomous by Analee Newitz. Was a pretty fun read.

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_HayleyWilliams
01/31/22 7:14:08 AM
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xGhostchantx posted...
It shouldn't be a choice. It affects peoples lives and their families in profound ways and it's impossible to know just how bad it will be for the first two or so years. I would be me and you would be you, but better.
It should definitely be a choice if you're high-functioning. I still have my doubts that I would be me in this chip scenario.

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MutantJohn
01/31/22 8:10:53 AM
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TC can't even work at a grocery store because that would literally overwhelm him into shutting down and he calls that a feature?

Bro...

I would never want my son to have that be his life. If he's gonna be a NEET that's fine but, damn dude, literally physically unable to work a job like that? That's not a quality life.

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Tenlaar
01/31/22 9:22:47 AM
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_HayleyWilliams posted...
It should definitely be a choice if youre high-functioning. I still have my doubts that I would be me in this chip scenario.
In this hypothetical the current adults who can make informed medical decisions would of course have that decision to make, but for everybody going forward there would be a cure available when its first discovered as a very young child and those children would be able to grow up without the disability. There would be no lamenting the loss of an adult self that has formed around it.
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Anteaterking
01/31/22 4:58:39 PM
#325:


I think there are two aspects of this conversation.

The one is about Elon Musk and his magic pill which seems like it's all fluff. I don't really think many people in here are arguing that they believe Elon Musk can accomplish this or anything.

The other one is that TC very clearly is more concerned that if there's a "cure" that he won't be considered disabled anymore than he is about whether this would actually help people.

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Forest_Temple
01/31/22 5:30:07 PM
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Anteaterking posted...
I think there are two aspects of this conversation.

The one is about Elon Musk and his magic pill which seems like it's all fluff. I don't really think many people in here are arguing that they believe Elon Musk can accomplish this or anything.

The other one is that TC very clearly is more concerned that if there's a "cure" that he won't be considered disabled anymore than he is about whether this would actually help people.
I read this in John Danahers voice for some reason

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supermichael11
01/31/22 6:16:07 PM
#327:


I wasn't aware that AceMos has autism. To be honest there was a member I knew that was good and his post was very good and he has asperger syndrome. There are people that can have autism and still be smart and get their degrees.

The other member I rather no say his name, it isn't my place to reveal that information.

If there was health problems that interferes with my life, I would welcome a cure. Depending on the illness, the risk might be worth it if it got rid of certain health issues.

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ooger
02/02/22 9:08:01 PM
#328:


Musk is awful.

Just listen to this "music" he made.

https://youtu.be/hOEWUm6aGPg

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MedeaLysistrata
02/03/22 5:49:23 AM
#329:


I think this might be revenge for being tracked by that guy that tried to get paid for being smart? No, it's CE that is correct

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AceMos
02/03/22 6:19:25 AM
#330:


MedeaLysistrata posted...
I think this might be revenge for being tracked by that guy that tried to get paid for being smart? No, it's CE that is correct
but musk is not smart

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JTilly
02/03/22 6:44:13 AM
#331:


AceMos posted...
but musk is not smart
Imagine believing this
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AceMos
02/03/22 6:58:16 AM
#332:


JTilly posted...
Imagine believing this
tell me how is he smart

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JTilly
02/03/22 7:02:14 AM
#333:


AceMos posted...
tell me how is he smart
Lets see.. no accomplishments to speak of, no companies owned, not the richest man, eh.. yeah I guess you got a point. Elon Musk is so fucking stupid Im surprised he got past special ed


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AceMos
02/03/22 7:04:07 AM
#334:


so you cant list what makes him smart at all

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JTilly
02/03/22 7:05:32 AM
#335:


AceMos posted...
so you cant list what makes him smart at all
Ya I just said hes so fucking stupid Im surprised he got past special ed.
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AceMos
02/03/22 7:06:42 AM
#336:


the very fact you have had to resort to trolling is proof he is a moron

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cuttin_in_farm
02/03/22 7:08:07 AM
#337:


AceMos posted...
the very fact you have had to resort to trolling is proof he is a moron


what?

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Spiritlittle
02/03/22 7:08:08 AM
#338:


Tenlaar posted...
Sure, Elon is terrible for a variety of reasons, but I have never seen the sense in the attitude that birth defects should be treated as a good or desirable thing.


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AceMos
02/03/22 7:09:39 AM
#339:


cuttin_in_farm posted...
what?
tilly cant list anything that makes musk smart so he resorted to trolling


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JTilly
02/03/22 7:10:51 AM
#340:


AceMos posted...
the very fact you have had to resort to trolling is proof he is a moron
You pointed out you were autistic earlier itt, right? Just because you think hes an evil bad man, doesnt automatically mean hes stupid. Evil and stupid arent the same thing. Theyre both not the greatest of things, but that doesnt automatically lump them into the same meaning.

Somebody can be evil, and not be stupid. On the flip side, someone can be stupid, but also a good person (not evil)
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AceMos
02/03/22 7:13:34 AM
#341:


i call him stupid because he keeps making promises with technology he knows nothing about

like the solar high way that never happened

or this stupid chip

or that stupid hyper tunnel thing

or he believe space travel can be used for quick travel all over the world

or the time he offered a submarine to rescue those soccer plays even thoe it would not work and got pissy when that was explained to him

he is a moron because he does not know anything about the things he claims to be a genius on

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CyricZ
02/03/22 7:14:00 AM
#342:


On the subject of "evil" vs. "stupid" I feel it's a distinction without a hell of a lot of difference at the end of the day.

Or to put it another way, I think it takes a special kind of stupid to do evil.

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JTilly
02/03/22 7:16:36 AM
#343:


AceMos posted...
i call him stupid because he keeps making promises with technology he knows nothing about

like the solar high way that never happened

or this stupid chip

or that stupid hyper tunnel thing

or he believe space travel can be used for quick travel all over the world

or the time he offered a submarine to rescue those soccer plays even thoe it would not work and got pissy when that was explained to him

he is a moron because he does not know anything about the things he claims to be a genius on
He says alot of things youre right but Ill give it to you the tunnel was stupid
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AceMos
02/03/22 7:17:41 AM
#344:


so now pls list smart things he has done

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MedeaLysistrata
02/03/22 7:18:35 AM
#345:


Only do science that works?

No, blue skies now

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JTilly
02/03/22 7:20:35 AM
#346:


AceMos posted...
so now pls list smart things he has done
Starlink is going to be revolutionary for huge areas of the planet that didnt have access to decent/any internet at all. Thats a pretty smart/cool thing that hes pushing
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MedeaLysistrata
02/03/22 7:23:46 AM
#347:


CyricZ posted...
On the subject of "evil" vs. "stupid" I feel it's a distinction without a hell of a lot of difference at the end of the day.

Or to put it another way, I think it takes a special kind of stupid to do evil.
Conservatives think progress is evil if it refers to something other than their retirement

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AceMos
02/03/22 7:24:35 AM
#348:


JTilly posted...
Starlink is going to be revolutionary for huge areas of the planet that didnt have access to decent/any internet at all. Thats a pretty smart/cool thing that hes pushing
and he did not invent it nor is it his idea

he is just selling it

and with his history i dont have any trust in the technology working as he promises

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Xavier_On_High
02/03/22 7:28:45 AM
#349:


AceMos posted...
like the solar high way that never happened

That wasn't Elon Musk. You're thinking of Solar (Freaking) Roadways, a proof of concept/meme/scam

AceMos posted...
or he believe space travel can be used for quick travel all over the world

He's not wrong, the technology just isn't quite there yet. A spaceplane from London to New York could take 10 mins.

The rest of your points were accurate.

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AceMos
02/03/22 7:29:37 AM
#350:


Xavier_On_High posted...
He's not wrong, the technology just isn't quite there yet. A spaceplane from London to New York could take 10 mins.
and how long would it take to prep for launch

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Xavier_On_High
02/03/22 7:31:45 AM
#351:


AceMos posted...
and how long would it take to prep for launch

Once the process is up to an industrial scale, prep time would probably be comparable to an airliner.

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Tyranthraxus
02/03/22 2:18:32 PM
#353:


AceMos posted...
i call him stupid because he keeps making promises with technology he knows nothing about

That doesn't make someone stupid. Musk is at worst averagely intelligent. Talking about shit you don't know anything about is done by all kinds of people at many different levels of intelligence.

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ooger
02/03/22 7:16:14 PM
#354:


He's a big ole weirdo dork.

Also, a car's door handles shouldn't be the first thing to break on a car.

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Talas
02/03/22 7:34:52 PM
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AceMos posted...
would YOU want some one to rewire your brain change how you think how things smell to you taste sound

every single way your brain works from the tiniest detail tot he largest

I get that you're fine with who you are, and you should be, there's nothing wrong with who you are, but If someone could rewire my brain so I no longer have crippling depression, anxiety and harmful thoughts, without having to take medication that turns off all my emotions and prevents my dick from working, fuck yeah I would want that.

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