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AceMos 01/31/22 4:58:11 AM #306: |
ive only been focused on autism you know --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZevLoveDOOM 01/31/22 5:00:40 AM #307: |
i dunno man, while i do think this could potential help people who really need it, i do have my reservations regarding the whole idea of implanting a chip on your brain... what if this thing explodes? or if they wire it to control someone's mind or whatever? its scary to think about it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 01/31/22 5:02:48 AM #308: |
ZevLoveDOOM posted... what if this thing explodes? or if they wire it to control someone's mind or whatever? its scary to think about it.you are thinking to small if musks magic pixie dust worked parents could design their childs personality at birth --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZevLoveDOOM 01/31/22 5:05:55 AM #309: |
AceMos posted... you are thinking to small that would imply the parents could control your chip through an app or something. which admittedly, does sound scary as fuck... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dancing_cactuar 01/31/22 5:11:44 AM #310: |
AceMos posted... ive only been focused on autism you knowIt's too bad your tweet/quote also mentioned schizophrenia then. Still doesn't change how you're being a crab in a bucket for people with issues that cannot function in any capacity in a normal society, which can be picked up on before a child is even 3 so they'd be as consenting as they are when they get all their needed vaccines in order to enter schools in their future. And also: dancing_cactuar posted... This is literally nowhere in your opening post or title, so you've moved the goalposts significantly with this argument which was originally "fuck Elon Musk for wanting to have computer chips that can cure autism and schizophrenia" --- I don't need to see a movie to know how well the characters are handled- Danyarmy The PS5 has liquid metal tech like the T-1000 Terminator- AceCombatX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gaminggamer13 01/31/22 5:41:07 AM #311: |
This chip sounds amazing, I don't speak for everyone, but I subjectively, would love to actually be somewhat normal. That said, inserting a chip in the brain definitely sounds like high risk surgery, and for Elon Musk, someone who genuinely has no experience in brain surgery, I'd be hesitant actually undergoing the procedure. Though, Elon Musk's idea is completely hypothetical, it probably won't ever happen, but man would it be nice for people with schizophrenia and autism to actually be given an opportunity to be normal functioning members of society and not leeching of disability payments, spending their recreational time constantly goalshift posting on a gamefaqs topic. But hey, what would I know, I've only read 310 messages. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSavageDragon 01/31/22 5:52:42 AM #312: |
AceMos posted... i think you vastly misunderstand my stance Here's the thing...for a great deal of people on the lower end of the spectrum "being forced by parents" is their entire life. I've taught in high schools for the severely disabled. I've met 21 year olds that can only share their thoughts and feelings through grunts and some very limited sign language (some not even that). Every single aspect of their existence is controlled by someone else. They are entirely dependent on the whims of others. If this "cure" is "forced" on them by their legal guardian they have the chance to finally make a decision for themselves. You can sit here and claim it as part of your identity because you have the ability to do so.. Meanwhile I've seen people trying to unsuccessfully convey their emotions/needs burst into tears numerous times. I live in a country with awesome social benefits. In a city that's actually famous for being a pioneer in mental healthcare. And still ended up as a 16 year old intern being left unsupervised for hours on end with 20 people that ranged from barely speaking to not at all. That shit's just not okay. And it happens daily all over the world. If there's a chance these people 's well-being wouldn't depend on inexperienced or uncaring individuals I support that 100% ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 01/31/22 6:39:06 AM #313: |
AceMos posted... oh its a disability Those are the same thing. Disabilities are defects. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] It really all falls into place. He objects to the idea of a cure, because if he were cured he wouldn't be able to collect his monthly tugboat anymore. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 01/31/22 6:41:56 AM #314: |
Yeah you can fuck off with calling disabilities defects. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 01/31/22 6:45:46 AM #315: |
TC, perhaps you should not die on this hill and simply be grateful you have family and government social programs looking out for you, and that you're in the higher-functioning end of the spectrum, while understanding that many many others- a significant amount of others- aren't as lucky --- Do you know you're beautiful? You are ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 01/31/22 6:49:25 AM #316: |
spikethedevil posted... Yeah you can fuck off with calling disabilities defects. They are though. It might not be kind to say, but its true. If you're blind, you have defective eyes. If you're deaf, you have defective ears. If you can't walk, you have defective legs or spine, etc. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lairen 01/31/22 6:51:50 AM #317: |
This topic is a trap.... --- When it rains, it pours. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 01/31/22 6:55:08 AM #318: |
Lairen posted... When it rains, it pours. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kim_Seong-a 01/31/22 7:00:00 AM #319: |
WingsOfGood posted... Bezos invests in it and chip gives you an orgasm whenever you work super hard for amazon or buy from them. There's a book that sort of delves into this idea. Autonomous by Analee Newitz. Was a pretty fun read. --- https://imgur.com/dAri4ON ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_HayleyWilliams 01/31/22 7:14:08 AM #320: |
xGhostchantx posted... It shouldn't be a choice. It affects peoples lives and their families in profound ways and it's impossible to know just how bad it will be for the first two or so years. I would be me and you would be you, but better.It should definitely be a choice if you're high-functioning. I still have my doubts that I would be me in this chip scenario. --- hockeybub89 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MutantJohn 01/31/22 8:10:53 AM #322: |
TC can't even work at a grocery store because that would literally overwhelm him into shutting down and he calls that a feature? Bro... I would never want my son to have that be his life. If he's gonna be a NEET that's fine but, damn dude, literally physically unable to work a job like that? That's not a quality life. --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenlaar 01/31/22 9:22:47 AM #324: |
_HayleyWilliams posted... It should definitely be a choice if youre high-functioning. I still have my doubts that I would be me in this chip scenario.In this hypothetical the current adults who can make informed medical decisions would of course have that decision to make, but for everybody going forward there would be a cure available when its first discovered as a very young child and those children would be able to grow up without the disability. There would be no lamenting the loss of an adult self that has formed around it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Anteaterking 01/31/22 4:58:39 PM #325: |
I think there are two aspects of this conversation. The one is about Elon Musk and his magic pill which seems like it's all fluff. I don't really think many people in here are arguing that they believe Elon Musk can accomplish this or anything. The other one is that TC very clearly is more concerned that if there's a "cure" that he won't be considered disabled anymore than he is about whether this would actually help people. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forest_Temple 01/31/22 5:30:07 PM #326: |
Anteaterking posted... I think there are two aspects of this conversation.I read this in John Danahers voice for some reason --- So much to do, so little time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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supermichael11 01/31/22 6:16:07 PM #327: |
I wasn't aware that AceMos has autism. To be honest there was a member I knew that was good and his post was very good and he has asperger syndrome. There are people that can have autism and still be smart and get their degrees. The other member I rather no say his name, it isn't my place to reveal that information. If there was health problems that interferes with my life, I would welcome a cure. Depending on the illness, the risk might be worth it if it got rid of certain health issues. --- http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/88/ dragon ball forum ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ooger 02/02/22 9:08:01 PM #328: |
Musk is awful. Just listen to this "music" he made. https://youtu.be/hOEWUm6aGPg --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 02/03/22 5:49:23 AM #329: |
I think this might be revenge for being tracked by that guy that tried to get paid for being smart? No, it's CE that is correct --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 02/03/22 6:19:25 AM #330: |
MedeaLysistrata posted... I think this might be revenge for being tracked by that guy that tried to get paid for being smart? No, it's CE that is correctbut musk is not smart --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JTilly 02/03/22 6:44:13 AM #331: |
AceMos posted... but musk is not smartImagine believing this ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 02/03/22 6:58:16 AM #332: |
JTilly posted... Imagine believing thistell me how is he smart --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JTilly 02/03/22 7:02:14 AM #333: |
AceMos posted... tell me how is he smartLets see.. no accomplishments to speak of, no companies owned, not the richest man, eh.. yeah I guess you got a point. Elon Musk is so fucking stupid Im surprised he got past special ed ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 02/03/22 7:04:07 AM #334: |
so you cant list what makes him smart at all --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JTilly 02/03/22 7:05:32 AM #335: |
AceMos posted... so you cant list what makes him smart at allYa I just said hes so fucking stupid Im surprised he got past special ed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 02/03/22 7:06:42 AM #336: |
the very fact you have had to resort to trolling is proof he is a moron --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 02/03/22 7:08:07 AM #337: |
AceMos posted... the very fact you have had to resort to trolling is proof he is a moron what? --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spiritlittle 02/03/22 7:08:08 AM #338: |
Tenlaar posted... Sure, Elon is terrible for a variety of reasons, but I have never seen the sense in the attitude that birth defects should be treated as a good or desirable thing. --- Official Fujin of the Mortal Kombat 11 board. Trails of Cold Steel is the most underappreciated JRPG series ever. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 02/03/22 7:09:39 AM #339: |
cuttin_in_farm posted... what?tilly cant list anything that makes musk smart so he resorted to trolling --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JTilly 02/03/22 7:10:51 AM #340: |
AceMos posted... the very fact you have had to resort to trolling is proof he is a moronYou pointed out you were autistic earlier itt, right? Just because you think hes an evil bad man, doesnt automatically mean hes stupid. Evil and stupid arent the same thing. Theyre both not the greatest of things, but that doesnt automatically lump them into the same meaning. Somebody can be evil, and not be stupid. On the flip side, someone can be stupid, but also a good person (not evil) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 02/03/22 7:13:34 AM #341: |
i call him stupid because he keeps making promises with technology he knows nothing about like the solar high way that never happened or this stupid chip or that stupid hyper tunnel thing or he believe space travel can be used for quick travel all over the world or the time he offered a submarine to rescue those soccer plays even thoe it would not work and got pissy when that was explained to him he is a moron because he does not know anything about the things he claims to be a genius on --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 02/03/22 7:14:00 AM #342: |
On the subject of "evil" vs. "stupid" I feel it's a distinction without a hell of a lot of difference at the end of the day. Or to put it another way, I think it takes a special kind of stupid to do evil. --- CyricZ He/him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JTilly 02/03/22 7:16:36 AM #343: |
AceMos posted... i call him stupid because he keeps making promises with technology he knows nothing aboutHe says alot of things youre right but Ill give it to you the tunnel was stupid ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 02/03/22 7:17:41 AM #344: |
so now pls list smart things he has done --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 02/03/22 7:18:35 AM #345: |
Only do science that works? No, blue skies now --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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JTilly 02/03/22 7:20:35 AM #346: |
AceMos posted... so now pls list smart things he has doneStarlink is going to be revolutionary for huge areas of the planet that didnt have access to decent/any internet at all. Thats a pretty smart/cool thing that hes pushing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedeaLysistrata 02/03/22 7:23:46 AM #347: |
CyricZ posted... On the subject of "evil" vs. "stupid" I feel it's a distinction without a hell of a lot of difference at the end of the day.Conservatives think progress is evil if it refers to something other than their retirement --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 02/03/22 7:24:35 AM #348: |
JTilly posted... Starlink is going to be revolutionary for huge areas of the planet that didnt have access to decent/any internet at all. Thats a pretty smart/cool thing that hes pushingand he did not invent it nor is it his idea he is just selling it and with his history i dont have any trust in the technology working as he promises --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xavier_On_High 02/03/22 7:28:45 AM #349: |
AceMos posted... like the solar high way that never happened That wasn't Elon Musk. You're thinking of Solar (Freaking) Roadways, a proof of concept/meme/scam AceMos posted... or he believe space travel can be used for quick travel all over the world He's not wrong, the technology just isn't quite there yet. A spaceplane from London to New York could take 10 mins. The rest of your points were accurate. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 02/03/22 7:29:37 AM #350: |
Xavier_On_High posted... He's not wrong, the technology just isn't quite there yet. A spaceplane from London to New York could take 10 mins.and how long would it take to prep for launch --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Xavier_On_High 02/03/22 7:31:45 AM #351: |
AceMos posted... and how long would it take to prep for launch Once the process is up to an industrial scale, prep time would probably be comparable to an airliner. --- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ltnafhjcUz1qmxswbo1_500.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 02/03/22 2:18:32 PM #353: |
AceMos posted... i call him stupid because he keeps making promises with technology he knows nothing about That doesn't make someone stupid. Musk is at worst averagely intelligent. Talking about shit you don't know anything about is done by all kinds of people at many different levels of intelligence. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ooger 02/03/22 7:16:14 PM #354: |
He's a big ole weirdo dork. Also, a car's door handles shouldn't be the first thing to break on a car. --- "ooger is not a man, he's a phenomenon." - Helpall ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Talas 02/03/22 7:34:52 PM #355: |
AceMos posted... would YOU want some one to rewire your brain change how you think how things smell to you taste sound I get that you're fine with who you are, and you should be, there's nothing wrong with who you are, but If someone could rewire my brain so I no longer have crippling depression, anxiety and harmful thoughts, without having to take medication that turns off all my emotions and prevents my dick from working, fuck yeah I would want that. --- http://i.imgur.com/4uu18iA.jpg In Memory of Logan ... Copied to Clipboard!
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