Current Events > Linus Tech Tips: Ad blocking is the exact same thing as piracy.

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Lebronwon
02/01/22 7:02:31 PM
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https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486925588199718912

https://twitter.com/LinusTech/status/1486918784401088515



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1337toothbrush
02/01/22 7:04:01 PM
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Poor Linus. He barely makes any money.

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Sictis
02/01/22 7:05:04 PM
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k

*continues using adblock*

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Wetterdew
02/01/22 7:05:27 PM
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I just DGAF. i agree that you lose revenue if I block ads compared to if I'm subjected to them, and i don't care. I'm not watching them and IDC if it frustrates content creators
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Southernfatman
02/01/22 7:07:03 PM
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Yar fuckin har

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refmon
02/01/22 7:07:55 PM
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Wetterdew posted...
I just DGAF. i agree that you lose revenue if I block ads compared to if I'm subjected to them, and i don't care. I'm not watching them and IDC if it frustrates content creators


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TheGoldenEel
02/01/22 7:07:58 PM
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Hes probably right, but I dont really have a moral objection to piracy either

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Tenlaar
02/01/22 7:08:03 PM
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Obviously. Its selfish, entitled people saying I want your content but I cant be inconvenienced even the slightest bit for you to get paid for it.
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Doe
02/01/22 7:09:20 PM
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"Nooooo I didn't give you permission to watch this video without watching a 30 second liberty mutual ad beforehand!! You have an obligation to submit to a broken system and feed the advertising industry"

Hmm, nah


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s0nicfan
02/01/22 7:11:48 PM
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If I walk into a store that has an advertisement on the wall and I consciously choose not to look at it that isn't piracy. If I go to a website and consciously choose not to look at their ads it isn't piracy either. Neither is skipping ahead in a YouTube video to get past somebody's in video sponsorship. Neither is hanging up on a telemarketer.

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televigilante
02/01/22 7:12:09 PM
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Great point. I never thought of it that way. That being said, I think most of the people being stolen from "have made it" so to speak, while the people stealing haven't. I don't think it's so black and white. We need to support the arts as much as we can, but we should be afforded the right to steal SOME art without punishment.

I think the arts stimulate imagination and growth of culture. I think if people want to be artists themselves, it's probably a good idea to steal some art tbh before you make it. I think it will make them a better artist.

Stealing isn't as clean cut as it seems anyway. If people didn't steal, they would never consume, i.e., watch, listen, etc. to the art and thus never be able to recommend the art to others. So some of that theft is paid back via word of mouth.

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alphagamble
02/01/22 7:12:20 PM
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time is money

watching an ad takes my time

who's the real pirate here?

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EmbraceOfDeath
02/01/22 7:15:19 PM
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Just because you decide to build your business structure around something intrusive and exploitative like ads doesn't mean anyone is obligated to put up with them.

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CommonStar
02/01/22 7:15:42 PM
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For a big channel as LTT, you'd imagine the amount of money they make for themselves and also Youtube, they'd be able to negotiate with Youtube to get paid better without relying on adsense. Youtube is making huge profits off their labour.
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mybbqrules
02/01/22 7:17:01 PM
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Doe posted...
"Nooooo I didn't give you permission to watch this video without watching a 30 second liberty mutual ad beforehand!! You have an obligation to submit to a broken system and feed the advertising industry"

Hmm, nah
Fucking this.

And some of them are just ridiculous. I've seen videos that are 30 minutes or more long with an ad break like every 3 or 4 minutes.

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DrizztLink
02/01/22 7:17:07 PM
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When people figure out how to have ads while killing off all the shitty malware, I'll consider it, Linus.

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FurryPhilosifer
02/01/22 7:17:39 PM
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Oh yeah, that'll get through to his viewers. PC users are known for their dislike of piracy.

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apocalyptic_4
02/01/22 7:17:48 PM
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Laugh out loud

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BlackBlueButts
02/01/22 7:18:45 PM
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Nah all this content creation stuff is unsolicited. Imagine someone changing your car tires without asking then demanding payment. That's what all these people sound like.

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TheGoldenEel
02/01/22 7:18:48 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

to be fair as revenue is critical to at least the first part of your suggestion (sponsored content is explicitly ads) and the latter two rely on you either having a built in fanbase, or having a ton of money to start with while you build a fanbase

essentially unless youre able to bankroll your entire concept upfront ad revenue makes a lot of that content possible

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1337toothbrush
02/01/22 7:18:55 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
Obviously. Its selfish, entitled people saying I want your content but I cant be inconvenienced even the slightest bit for you to get paid for it.
Put up an anti-ad blocker and I will simply not watch, just like how I don't bother with twitch at all because they are much more aggressive against ad blockers than youtube.

What's really entitled is thinking you can dictate how people view your content when there are essentially infinite other options.

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COVxy
02/01/22 7:19:47 PM
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FurryPhilosifer posted...
Oh yeah, that'll get through to his viewers. PC users are known for their dislike of piracy.

Most of the people here defending ad blocking would not defend piracy lol.

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Paragon21XX
02/01/22 7:21:28 PM
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Screwing a ho while wearing a condom is stealing child support.

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FurryPhilosifer
02/01/22 7:22:32 PM
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COVxy posted...
Most of the people here defending ad blocking would not defend piracy lol.
Maybe not here, but on Twitter and Reddit? They talk like pirating games is the default, and if they really like your game or think you're an epic wholesome company, then they might pay for it, as a treat.

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Tenlaar
02/01/22 7:24:16 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
Put up an anti-ad blocker and I will simply not watch, just like how I don't bother with twitch at all because they are much more aggressive against ad blockers than youtube.

What's really entitled is thinking you can dictate how people view your content when there are essentially infinite other options.
You are absolutely wrong. Ads are the cover charge for the content you want to consume, youre choosing to sneak in the side door and then act like you have some inherent right to be there.
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TheGoldenEel
02/01/22 7:24:53 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Sure but its not really a solution for people complaining about the very existence of ads

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DrizztLink
02/01/22 7:25:20 PM
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Tenlaar posted...
You are absolutely wrong. Ads are the cover charge for the content you want to consume, youre choosing to sneak in the side door and then act like you have some inherent right to be there.
Except in this case the performance is in a park and the "side door" is literally just standing in the park.

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xGhostchantx
02/01/22 7:25:49 PM
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"hello i am the internet, the free service in which you can choose to publish content. or not!"

"why am i not getting paid for this?"

haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. your ads use my data. my data is measured by my isp. you literally take my money. fuck you, linus.
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COVxy
02/01/22 7:27:33 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Except in this case the performance is in a park and the "side door" is literally just standing in the park.

I mean, without the ad revenue, people would be charging money for access. The ad revenue is the replacement for charging you directly.

Certainly, they can just charge you directly and you'd be happy then, right?

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Wetterdew
02/01/22 7:30:52 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
I don't bother with twitch at all because they are much more aggressive against ad blockers than youtube
use twitchls.com if you want. No ads whatsoever, although every 10 minutes or so they blank out the stream for 30 seconds. Still better than seeing ads on twitch, though.
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Kisai
02/01/22 7:31:30 PM
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Not really comparable to piracy at all...

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bladegash
02/01/22 7:34:30 PM
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Go ahead and notify the authorities. Lets get the FBI raids going.


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DeadBankerDream
02/01/22 7:36:12 PM
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I'm just shocked that he makes that much of a percentage of his income from shitty merch.

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Lairen
02/01/22 7:38:12 PM
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Sleeping with someone is literally like sleeping with everyone they slept with. Literally.

Fuck off. I cant do it harder than i already am.


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Axiom
02/01/22 7:38:18 PM
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I'm ok with that
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Lairen
02/01/22 7:39:25 PM
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If anything then piracy is fine by me. Fuck this guy. He just rustled me jimmies!

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Unsugarized_Foo
02/01/22 7:41:44 PM
#41:


Them: In order to get x, do y

Me an intellectual: no, I will take x and not do y

Them: That's not how this works, that's stealing

Me an intellectual: you're being a bitch


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1337toothbrush
02/01/22 7:42:41 PM
#42:


Tenlaar posted...
You are absolutely wrong. Ads are the cover charge for the content you want to consume, youre choosing to sneak in the side door and then act like you have some inherent right to be there.
Nope. If they send the data to my computer, I'm free to do what I want with it. If they want to apply a real cover charge, they'd disallow me viewing the video until my computer has received the ad.

Wetterdew posted...
use twitchls.com if you want. No ads whatsoever, although every 10 minutes or so they blank out the stream for 30 seconds. Still better than seeing ads on twitch, though.
Good to know. Thanks!

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voldothegr8
02/01/22 7:44:26 PM
#43:


I'm aware of the impact, just like I'm aware of the impact of malware those ads bring to my machine

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DespondentDeity
02/01/22 7:47:38 PM
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I watch the ads lol

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Lairen
02/01/22 7:48:17 PM
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His posts are literally the same thing as taking a shit in my eyes. Literally.

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Unsuprised_Pika
02/01/22 7:49:44 PM
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It's not because ads are often very intrusive, sometimes dangerous, can bog your system down with trackers/malware and occasionally are offensive or have very loud auto playing audio/videos.

It's kinda like shopping at a store but shoving an aggressive employee out of the way who is so determined to sell to you that he blocks your path and even shouts, grabs you by the arm or even tries to pickpocket you or aggressively obtain your phone number.
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AsucaHayashi
02/01/22 7:55:19 PM
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if you don't make an effort to make ads that are at least worth watching then i sure as hell am not gonna make an effort to maximize your revenue.

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InTheEyesOfFire
02/01/22 8:01:39 PM
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Ill see you in Davey Jones locker then.

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Crazyman93
02/01/22 8:05:34 PM
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When YouTube stops doing shit like making ads unskippable, totally irrelevant to me (I dont' have a car, why do I need insurance), repetitive, and occasionally sneaking half hour plus long TV pilots into a 5 minute video, I will consider not blocking them.

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