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solosnake
02/28/22 11:23:09 PM
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https://twitter.com/technoholic_me/status/1498513483331248129

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ssj3vegeta
02/28/22 11:23:52 PM
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Well, shit.

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Alteres
02/28/22 11:25:32 PM
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Does Ukraine have any air force left?

Seems like a hell of a target

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DowntownMrSmith
02/28/22 11:26:56 PM
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Arent you failing at waging war if your position is reported in the news?
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Bat178
02/28/22 11:27:04 PM
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Alteres posted...
Does Ukraine have any air force left?

Seems like a hell of a target
Or any anti-tank mines/IEDs to put in their path?

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CableZL
02/28/22 11:27:52 PM
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Alteres posted...
Does Ukraine have any air force left?

Seems like a hell of a target
They used a drone recently. Hopefully they can use it against this

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UnholyMudcrab
02/28/22 11:28:47 PM
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Alteres posted...
Does Ukraine have any air force left?

Seems like a hell of a target
They just got a whole bunch of aircraft from NATO.

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Solar_Crimson
02/28/22 11:29:12 PM
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Unfortunately, looks like Putin has taken his gloves off now.

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iPhone_7
02/28/22 11:30:44 PM
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Theres so many roads there that go straight for miles without much foliage. Theyd be such easy targets out in the open.

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IndorilGawain
02/28/22 11:32:05 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
They just got a whole bunch of aircraft from NATO.
Time to put those migs to good use

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s0nicfan
02/28/22 11:32:25 PM
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Things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.


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Zikten
02/28/22 11:35:57 PM
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We should bomb that convoy
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FortuneCookie
02/28/22 11:36:04 PM
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Maybe the US should step in.

What better way to make up for our loss in Afghanistan than with a victory over Russia? Victory would be guaranteed since it would be two nations against one -- and Russia is already struggling -- and America would be world heroes.
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kelemvor
02/28/22 11:41:38 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Maybe the US should step in.

What better way to make up for our loss in Afghanistan than with a victory over Russia? Victory would be guaranteed since it would be two nations against one -- and Russia is already struggling -- and America would be world heroes.

Nukes? Some diplomats who know Putin seem to think he's acting senile or insane...completely out of character of his calm, cool demeanor people are used to. It looks like he would just raise a middle finger to the world and push his Nuke button if NATO interferes in his personal war.

I actually think this whole situation might finally end when someone high in his circle decides it's time for him to be killed. His rich friends are desperately sailing their yachts around trying to find places where they won't be confiscated by the USA or EU.
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The Wheelman1
02/28/22 11:48:50 PM
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Shit. Russia means business.

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FortuneCookie
02/28/22 11:49:23 PM
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"I win this war or I destroy the world," probably sounds great in Putin's head.

But how's he realistically going to carry that out? He'd be commanding his people to commit suicide. Unless he personally has access to nuclear launch codes, and direct access to the missiles of his choosing, we won't be seeing nuclear war.

He's not some comic book supervillain that has physical power over all he sees. He's a politician whom people listen to. When he gives an order to destroy life on the surface of his planet, that's when somebody else is going to take over. They're not going to want to live underground for the rest of their lives and for the next three generations of their families.

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Unsuprised_Pika
02/28/22 11:53:26 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
"I win this war or I destroy the world," probably sounds great in Putin's head.

But how's he realistically going to carry that out? He'd be commanding his people to commit suicide. Unless he personally has access to nuclear launch codes, and direct access to the missiles of his choosing, we won't be seeing nuclear war.

He's not some comic book supervillain that has physical power over all he sees. He's a politician whom people listen to. When he gives an order to destroy life on the surface of his planet, that's when somebody else is going to take over. They're not going to want to live underground for the rest of their lives and for the next three generations of their families.

We should at least send some special forces to "defend civilians and infastructure for humanitarian purposes"

On paper.

In pratice they mainly protect zelensky, reinforce key choke points and help prevent Russia from gaining air superiority over Kyiv.
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RobertDoback
02/28/22 11:56:43 PM
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kelemvor posted...
It looks like he would just raise a middle finger to the world and push his Nuke button if NATO interferes in his personal war.

It seems like we are at the point of him raising his middle finger to the world (including his own country) and it's only a matter of time before nukes are used, regardless of NATO intervention.

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IndorilGawain
02/28/22 11:57:36 PM
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RobertDoback posted...
It seems like we are at the point of him raising his middle finger to the world (including his own country) and it's only a matter of time before nukes are used, regardless of NATO intervention.
I am begging this board to get a grip

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Alucard188
02/28/22 11:58:36 PM
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Yeah, the sooner Putin meets with a terrible fate, the better we'll be.

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RobertDoback
03/01/22 12:01:01 AM
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IndorilGawain posted...
I am begging this board to get a grip


Meaning?

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UnholyMudcrab
03/01/22 12:01:47 AM
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RobertDoback posted...
Meaning?
Meaning stop fearmongering about nukes

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BlueTigerLion
03/01/22 12:06:15 AM
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DowntownMrSmith posted...
Arent you failing at waging war if your position is reported in the news?

Im not surprised. This isnt a battle against the Taliban or ISIS. Ukraine has satellites and drones. Even the soldiers positions were given up with Tinder.

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DoctorPiranha3
03/01/22 12:09:03 AM
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kelemvor posted...
Nukes? Some diplomats who know Putin seem to think he's acting senile or insane...completely out of character of his calm, cool demeanor people are used to
This is just baseless speculation. Truth is, this attack has been in the making for at least a decade, and especially since the Crimea takeover.
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IndorilGawain
03/01/22 12:11:22 AM
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RobertDoback posted...
Meaning?

UnholyMudcrab posted...
Meaning stop fearmongering about nukes


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Frosted_Midna
03/01/22 12:12:00 AM
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I hope they can put a stop to Putin. This has gone far enough!

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darkmaian23
03/01/22 12:13:22 AM
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Nobody wants to even think about nukes being used, but the fact is, Putin keeps reminding us he has them, and this entire war is unpopular and pointless. Nobody thought Putin would actually invade. We have no idea where his head is at or how much power he still commands. Would he give the order? Would anyone follow it if he did? It'd be nice to answer "no" firmly to both questions, but the truth of the matter is, we don't know. If there is a power struggle in the government, anything could happen.

Sooner or later, humanity needs to confront the fact that the existence of weapons that allow a handful of people to end all life on Earth is something that just shouldn't be tolerated.
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Hinakuluiau
03/01/22 12:13:54 AM
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IndorilGawain posted...
I am begging this board to get a grip
Funny how you were making fun of people for thinking the invasion was BS but now you're so sure nukes aren't on the table

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Strider102
03/01/22 12:18:46 AM
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Putin is not going to use a nuke on Ukraine.

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IndorilGawain
03/01/22 12:20:08 AM
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Hinakuluiau posted...
Funny how you were making fun of people for thinking the invasion was BS but now you're so sure nukes aren't on the table
"the danger of nuclear conflict is higher now than it's been in a long time" and "it's only a matter of time before Putin uses a nuke" are not the same sentiment. The second is an immeasurably stupid statement.

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s0nicfan
03/01/22 12:20:44 AM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60559574
UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace told the BBC that the UK had not seen any change yet in the actual posture of Russia's nuclear weapons. That will be watched closely, intelligence sources confirm.

During the Cold War, a huge intelligence machine was created in the West to watch Moscow's nuclear arsenal. Satellites, intercepted communications and other sources were analysed to look for any signs of changes in behaviour - like preparing weapons or crews for bombers - that would offer warning.

Much of that remains in place and the West will be now watching Russian activity closely to understand if there is going to be any significant change in behaviour. There has been no sign, so far.

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RobertDoback
03/01/22 12:22:11 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
Meaning stop fearmongering about nukes

I can see how my comment was hyperbolic, but I'm not fear mongering. If anything, I'm saying the opposite. My point is, Putin is going to do what Putin is going to do and writing off NATO action for fear of him nuking everyone is a zero sum game.

And even if the rumors of his mental decline are false, there is no way these are actions of a stable or even competent leader. He's made it clear international laws don't apply to him. He also has nukes, so I don't think worry of that is necessarily unreasonable or else we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

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IndorilGawain
03/01/22 12:23:36 AM
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RobertDoback posted...
My point is, Putin is going to do what Putin is going to do and writing off NATO action for fear of him nuking everyone is a zero sum game.
People who actually study this stuff for a living all seem to agree that direct military action would be more likely to up the nuclear threat than not. None of them think "it's only a matter of time" until he uses one.

But I'm glad we have you to prove them all wrong

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RobertDoback
03/01/22 12:24:05 AM
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IndorilGawain posted...
"the danger of nuclear conflict is higher now than it's been in a long time" and "it's only a matter of time before Putin uses a nuke" are not the same sentiment. The second is an immeasurably stupid statement.


You know, it's really frustrating how unnecessarily combative you are, especially with people who are in agreement with you on 90% of topics.

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RobertDoback
03/01/22 12:26:12 AM
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IndorilGawain posted...
People who actually study this stuff for a living all seem to agree that direct military action would be more likely to up the nuclear threat than not. None of them think "it's only a matter of time" until he uses one.

But I'm glad we have you to prove them all wrong


Ah. You nitpicked my statement and completely disregarded my clarification. Are you just hyper literal over things? Is that your problem?

Also, are we back to fear mongering over nukes now? Is there or isn't there a nuclear threat?

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BettyWhite
03/01/22 12:31:53 AM
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Putin is pretty much a bully picking on a smaller kid while threatening to shoot the bigger kids capable of whooping his ass.

So now the bigger kids are trying to teach the little kid some martial arts to prevent this from turning into a gunfight.


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Arcanine2009
03/01/22 12:33:51 AM
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I don't know who I feel worse for at this point. Ukraine or Russian soldiers. How many know this is a pointless war that will end badly for them.. especially when the whole world is against them now?

Fuck Putin though. I hope this ends quick and casualties are a minimum.

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UnholyMudcrab
03/01/22 12:35:29 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
I don't know who I feel worse for at this point. Ukraine or Russian soldiers.
That's a pretty easy one, my dude

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008Zulu
03/01/22 12:37:22 AM
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I bet the ones at the front have run out of gas.

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SiO4
03/01/22 12:39:04 AM
#41:


BettyWhite posted...
Putin is pretty much a bully picking on a smaller kid while threatening to shoot the bigger kids capable of whooping his ass.

So now the bigger kids are trying to teach the little kid some martial arts to prevent this from turning into a gunfight.



It's fucked up that you would have to make that analogy.
But you are not wrong.

I mean that respectfully.

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YellowSUV
03/01/22 12:39:54 AM
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If Russia doesn't have air supremacy a 40 mile long convey is very susceptible to disruption.

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Joeydollaz
03/01/22 12:40:24 AM
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Why show this much force

I don't get it


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IndorilGawain
03/01/22 12:40:32 AM
#44:


RobertDoback posted...
Are you just hyper literal over things? Is that your problem?
The distinction between "elevated chance of nuclear conflict" and "It's only a matter of time until Putin uses a nuke" is not a semantic one. There is a fucking gulf of difference between those two things. And again, if nukes are what you're worried about, people with actual credibility on the issue think armed conflict will only increase that chance.

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RobertDoback
03/01/22 12:42:09 AM
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IndorilGawain posted...
The distinction between "elevated chance of nuclear conflict" and "It's only a matter of time until Putin uses a nuke" is not a semantic one. There is a fucking gulf of difference between those two things. And again, if nukes are what you're worried about, people with actual credibility on the issue think armed conflict will only increase that chance.


...I never made a comparison to your statement or previous thoughts on this matter with mine. I have no idea what the hell you are going on about right now.

You're doing that thing where you're so aggressive that you can't even keep up with who or what we are talking about.

Take a fucking break.

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Occupy_This
03/01/22 12:48:24 AM
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I heard their convoy has been having mechanical issues, which is why its taking them so long to get to Kyiv.

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s0nicfan
03/01/22 12:50:37 AM
#47:


Joeydollaz posted...
Why show this much force

I don't get it

Intimidation. He wants it to feel hopeless.

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Strider102
03/01/22 12:52:07 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Intimidation. He wants it to feel hopeless.

With the supposed mechanical issues I wonder who feels more hopeless right now.

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Smackems
03/01/22 12:52:12 AM
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I, too, as an armchair General, would like to offer my super educated thoughts

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Arcanine2009
03/01/22 12:59:29 AM
#50:


UnholyMudcrab posted...
That's a pretty easy one, my dude
They have no purpose. They are just going to their deaths for a senseless cause. I wonder what was said to brain wash them.

Of course I am 100% Ukraine. So it it easy to say that I support Ukraine protecting themselves.

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