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Calwings
04/01/22 10:36:24 PM
#451:


https://i.imgur.com/OkwqkJy.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ojUmdF42U

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ToadallyAwesome
04/01/22 10:49:35 PM
#452:


Calwings posted...
https://i.imgur.com/OkwqkJy.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1ojUmdF42U

Bruh, they didnt have to do them like that.

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Tennousu
04/01/22 11:05:56 PM
#453:


dave_is_slick posted...
Nothing more "fun" than watching someone play solitaire...
I'm sorry, but this game needs hard caps on the amount of summons you can do in one turn.

Don't kill Synchron like that, please t_t

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legendarylemur
04/02/22 12:46:17 AM
#454:


History has shown hard ban list and weird rules don't accomplish that much either. In fact, there is no easy solution to YGO as a whole. You kinda gotta accept positives and negatives. Positives are that Konami eventually figured out how to make grind game decks exist alongside combo decks. Nearly every meta has at least 1 of each. Sky Strikers will always be a thing for grind games at minimum a rogue level, and some people really like playing combos, and you can't really deny them either.

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Calwings
04/02/22 1:17:44 AM
#455:


Big combo decks aren't the problem. Big combo decks that end turn 1 on a "you don't get to play the game so fuck off" board (like decks that set up Rhongo or Herald) or just FTK you with little/no chance to react (like the two FTK's the bots are using) are the problem. This is made even worse by this game's best-of-1 format and the exploits people use to just disconnect away from a duel without it counting as a loss if they lose the coin flip.

In real-life tournaments, if you lost game 1 to a deck like this, you can at least choose to go first in game 2 and side-deck in potential counters to try and turn the match around. But in Master Duel, you either get lucky and open the game with multiple hand traps or board breakers, or you're fucked.

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gunplagirl
04/02/22 1:36:22 AM
#456:


I think a big solution would be reducing the timer to 360 seconds instead of 480, and having the timer never reset, though to compensate it would give you 15 seconds each time you can chain a card so you can decide if you will or not.

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dave_is_slick
04/02/22 2:44:06 AM
#457:


gunplagirl posted...
I think a big solution would be reducing the timer to 360 seconds instead of 480, and having the timer never reset, though to compensate it would give you 15 seconds each time you can chain a card so you can decide if you will or not.
Something like that might work. I just had another duel where I watched a game of solitaire after my one and only turn. I paid no attention to what they were doing and just browsed the internet for about 7 minutes or so.

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Tennousu
04/02/22 4:14:15 AM
#458:


I learned my forgotten lesson to not stack all your ATK boosts on one card.

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gunplagirl
04/02/22 4:17:24 AM
#459:


Tennousu posted...
I learned my forgotten lesson to not stack all your ATK boosts on one card.
Magic cylinder?

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Tennousu
04/02/22 4:42:30 AM
#460:


gunplagirl posted...
Magic cylinder?

Nah I'm using that N/R loaner deck and mamaged to get quite an amount of ATK in a single monster.

Then it got banished.

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Kim_Seong-a
04/02/22 7:11:06 AM
#461:


Yeah, always stings when you invest in one monster and they out it. >_>

I actually did get Magic Cylinder'd today, and I'm salty lol, because I didn't just get Cylinder'd.

Trickstar Deck. They open with Double Dark Room of Nightmare. They're doing this wacky shit, every spell I play costs me like, 2000 life points. I finally manage to out that stupid Trickstar card, then go in for an attack with Kagari.

They Magic Cylinder. I've got 1600 life points, and Kagari is buffed to 2000+. But wait! I can Widow Anchor my own Kagari! Her attack will debuff back down to 1500, I'll survive the turn with just 100 life points, but maybe I can turn it around!

And then they chain a second cylinder to my Widow Anchor. -_-;;;;

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gunplagirl
04/02/22 9:27:02 AM
#462:


Oof.

Earlier I beat a drytron deck because I actually planned out move by move what order to play my cards and hope they negated one of the less important ones. They did! Then I managed to clear their field. Turn 3 they did stuff again and I kept enough stuff on my board that after they negated the destroy effect I went for, I got out my slam dunker U.A. guy and they quit.

Felt really good considering how easily stopped the U.A. engine is. Just take out whatever we normal summon unless it's the 1200 attack one, then wait til we swap that out.

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Kim_Seong-a
04/02/22 9:56:30 AM
#463:


Oh nice, congrats! Always good to see the lesser played decks pull an upset. Fuck Herald, lol

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Calwings
04/02/22 12:48:38 PM
#464:


I had a game with U.A.'s where I got Ash'd and Maxx C'd, still did 4 summons during the main phase, did my 5th in the battle phase thanks to Midfielder's quick effect, and OTK'd my opponent while the Nibiru in his hand never got the chance to stop me. And then I sometimes have duels where one Ash completely fucks me over because that was the only search card I opened and I didn't open either of the level 4 monsters.

U.A.'s are such an inconsistent deck, but they can go ham when people least expect it. They're my second favorite deck I have behind Sky Strikers.

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gunplagirl
04/02/22 12:52:26 PM
#465:


Calwings posted...
I had a game with U.A.'s where I got Ash'd and Maxx C'd, still did 4 summons during the main phase, did my 5th in the battle phase thanks to Midfielder's quick effect, and OTK'd my opponent while the Nibiru in his hand never got the chance to stop me. And then I sometimes have duels where one Ash completely fucks me over because that was the only search card I opened and I didn't open either of the level 4 monsters.

U.A.'s are such an inconsistent deck, but they can go ham when people least expect it. They're my second favorite deck I have behind Sky Strikers.
They're fun, I built it because it was a really cheap archetype and didn't even research it first. But then I saw how fast it can grow dangerous if left alone and oh gosh, I can't not like them for a similar reason to why I love madolche. Overwhelm with numbers. :3

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AdrianBeterson
04/02/22 2:53:08 PM
#466:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S-rpojnOaY

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Tennousu
04/02/22 6:56:29 PM
#467:


By 'rogue deck', what do you guys mean by that?
Deck that nobody ever expect? Or rarely seen?

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Tmaster148
04/02/22 7:06:33 PM
#468:


Tennousu posted...
By 'rogue deck', what do you guys mean by that?
Deck that nobody ever expect? Or rarely seen?

Rogue deck often just means "non-meta deck".

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legendarylemur
04/02/22 8:09:40 PM
#469:


Rogue decks are a bit more than non-meta. They are generally what like tier 2.5 are, which is a bit weird. They have a chance against t1 decks and can even top tournaments with the right build, but the chance of that happening is not high, and their overall presence in tourneys will be relatively low but not non-existent.

Compare that to a T2, which means it had a chance to be T1 depending on future generic support and will be something T1-2 decks will actually build around. But rogue decks tend not to be built to counter because their presence tend to be something generics can deal with or there aren't enough representation to be worth the trouble. However T2 is still considered meta and will warrant some side decking or splashes

Not being rogue or meta usually means they have like less than 3 representation for an entire year (so no fringe tops from some random ass deck that lucked out should put a deck at a rogue tier), or the deck was so bad that a single card pool update phased it out of any chance of having a top mid-year.

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Calwings
04/02/22 8:15:17 PM
#470:


Yeah I was gonna say, rogue doesn't necessarily mean non-meta. Rogue is stuff like Madolches, Traptrix, U.A., Burning Abyss, even Blue-Eyes these days. Decks that can sometimes steal wins from top tier decks depending on the matchups but are generally less popular and successful overall.

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megamanfreakXD
04/02/22 8:16:58 PM
#471:


<img src="https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/0/8/AASfTXAADGAA.jpg">

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Kim_Seong-a
04/02/22 9:21:17 PM
#472:


Jesus Christ lmao

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Kim_Seong-a
04/02/22 11:30:35 PM
#473:


Another losing streak in Plat 5 brb gonna shadow realm myself.

Only consolation is that since adding Psy-Frame Gamma to my deck I've opened it everytime I go against Cyber Stein OTK. Though most recently it turned out to be someone actually running Infernobles/Igknights, so I felt a bit bad about shutting them down so hard. <___<

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ToadallyAwesome
04/03/22 12:28:27 AM
#474:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
Another losing streak in Plat 5 brb gonna shadow realm myself.

Only consolation is that since adding Psy-Frame Gamma to my deck I've opened it everytime I go against Cyber Stein OTK. Though most recently it turned out to be someone actually running Infernobles/Igknights, so I felt a bit bad about shutting them down so hard. <___<

Its wild times out there man. I tried to play and just got surrenders or DD Dynamite decks.

We have to run 13 card extra decks just like running gamma is really good right now. It was good to run feather duster and other backrow hate a month and a half ago but now the Eldlich problem has sorted itself out mostly.

Sometimes you have the hard counter.

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Lord_Shadow
04/03/22 4:16:10 AM
#475:


Played a game guy uses manju I use infinite impermanence he surrenders

Says I'm using a meta deck

His deck
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Lord_Shadow
04/03/22 4:18:44 AM
#476:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/7/AAQ1TYAADGE1.png

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/3/AAQ1TYAADGEx.png https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/1/4/AAQ1TYAADGEy.png the order is messed up last two pictures should be swapped

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Kim_Seong-a
04/03/22 4:22:40 AM
#477:


Lord_Shadow posted...


His deck


I can't believe you found the guy who made those SP duel loaner decks

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AceMos
04/03/22 5:11:51 AM
#478:


https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/2/AAPoV8AADGFE.jpg

this artwork for the new morphing jar is weird

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CTrunks
04/03/22 6:21:11 AM
#479:


I dunno, I'm personally excited for Meowphing Jar #3.

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AceMos
04/03/22 6:25:45 AM
#480:


CTrunks posted...
I dunno, I'm personally excited for Meowphing Jar #3.
its effect

"both players discard their entire hand if they can then add up tot he same number of cards they discard X the number of cats they have if a player does not own a cat they loose the match"

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Kim_Seong-a
04/03/22 6:27:19 AM
#481:


CTrunks posted...
I dunno, I'm personally excited for Meowphing Jar #3.

lmao

AceMos posted...
this artwork for the new morphing jar is weird

lmao, also, awwwwwwwww

Finally got my set of Called. Now maybe those undead lolis can stop cucking me whenever I try to play Engage. >_>

In other news, I originally dropped out of the game a bit before Halq was released in the TCG, I think. I've been thinking "wow two card Accesscode combo is great" but holy shit, I had no idea how evil that card is till I saw it played in a real Synchro deck. Halq + Ash gives me a 5300 beat stick and board wipe. It gives Zefra like, 6 fucking negates and 2500+ attack bodies.

Konami pls nerf lol

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gunplagirl
04/03/22 7:42:46 AM
#482:


Speaking of Halq, seeing YouTube vids where people remember he has a second effect is always refreshing. "Oh, right, people play cards and don't even know the effects. Nice."

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PerseusRad
04/03/22 7:46:27 AM
#483:


Crazy its on Season 4 now, about to be 5. Havent played since the start of Season 2, so I was in Bronze V. Made it to Silver II before losing to a deck that had cards that double in attack power after every attack by its archetype. Had no idea it was gonna happen, had no defense.

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Kim_Seong-a
04/03/22 7:57:13 AM
#484:


gunplagirl posted...
Speaking of Halq, seeing YouTube vids where people remember he has a second effect is always refreshing. "Oh, right, people play cards and don't even know the effects. Nice."

Yugioh players and not reading their own cards, name a more iconic duo. >_>

PerseusRad posted...
Crazy its on Season 4 now, about to be 5. Havent played since the start of Season 2, so I was in Bronze V. Made it to Silver II before losing to a deck that had cards that double in attack power after every attack by its archetype. Had no idea it was gonna happen, had no defense.

Sounds like Numerons. Absolutely infuriating deck. In theory they're extremely mediocre but for some reason I never have the out when I'm up against them, and when I do, they've got Lightning Storm or Called or some other shit that shuts me down anyway lol.

I don't even know the appeal of the deck. It has exactly one play. Even the most degenerate Exodia solitaire decks are more involved. <_<

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DB_Insider
04/03/22 8:02:53 AM
#485:


Damn i'm feeling burned out playing pure dragonmaids.

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legendarylemur
04/03/22 9:18:10 AM
#486:


Yeah Halq is a Crystron card at heart. If they really wanted him to be balanced, all they needed to do with make him summon a Crystron tuner from the deck instead of any fucking tuner in the long history of ygo where most hand traps are tuners.

Otherwise his 2nd effect is common in Crystrons or with most tuner synchro mons. It allows you to do some really good reactive plays. Also why IP:Masquerena is great. Anything reactive is always gonna be great, esp with on summon ignition effects

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Kim_Seong-a
04/03/22 9:42:29 AM
#487:


Trying to pilot Tri-Brigade and I have no idea wtf I'm doing lol.

Also half my games are bricks anyway what the fucking hell.

I did look up some basic plays buy lmao I'm still lost. Idk it's like every time I go against Tri they have all the answers, but I feel like if I don't open a way to grab Fraktall I just die >_>

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DB_Insider
04/03/22 9:49:13 AM
#488:


Can Someone explain how small world works?

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Aitz
04/03/22 9:50:22 AM
#489:


Back to Platinum again with Sky Strikers. Now I am thinking to play like this:

One match with my normal Sky Striker deck
Next match with Drytron
Third match with Sky Striker Iron Wall
Fourth match with Tri Brigade Zoodiac
Fifth with pure Handtraps
Sixth with Sky Striker Numeron

then repeat

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FabIe
04/03/22 11:06:45 AM
#490:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
Trying to pilot Tri-Brigade and I have no idea wtf I'm doing lol.

Also half my games are bricks anyway what the fucking hell.

I did look up some basic plays buy lmao I'm still lost. Idk it's like every time I go against Tri they have all the answers, but I feel like if I don't open a way to grab Fraktall I just die >_>

Whats your deck list?

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PerseusRad
04/03/22 3:57:16 PM
#491:


Finished the Battlepass. Made it to Gold IV, dunno if my deck is that inconsistent, or if I just misplayed too often. Even if we ignored that the season is almost over, I really don't think I care to grind my rank back to Plat. Was kinda fun after not playing for a while.

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legendarylemur
04/03/22 5:33:23 PM
#492:


Tri-zoo are supposed to do things like set Revolt or draw hand traps, summon Drident or the Ancient Warrior bounce and the likes and pass.

They're another grind game deck. They work both 1st and 2nd, but going 1st is generally better against most decks obviously.

It also sorely needs Salamangreat Almiraj for the recursion into extension via that one guy if you want to make fancy turn 1s.

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AdrianBeterson
04/03/22 9:02:24 PM
#493:


Big maintenance time. Fingers crossed for that banlist...

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Lord_Shadow
04/03/22 10:46:49 PM
#494:


As long as they don't touch Grass

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FabIe
04/03/22 11:59:19 PM
#495:


AdrianBeterson posted...
Big maintenance time. Fingers crossed for that banlist...

Doubtful it'll actually come out but my prediction when it does happen:

Banned:
VFD AKA True King of all Calamities (Banned in TCG and OCG already)
Zoodiac Drident (see above)
Eva (More like Evil m i rite? See above.)
Heroic Challenger you-can't-touch-me (See above)

Limited:
Tenki (is limited in TCG)
D.D.Dynamite (cut down on bots)

Semi Limited:
i dunno

Maxx C could honestly be banned, limited, semi-limited, or remain unlimited depending on if Master Duel wants to lean towards TCG or OCG. Could also see them hit pot of desires to 1 or 2.


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Kim_Seong-a
04/04/22 12:19:38 AM
#496:


FabIe posted...
Whats your deck list?

Can't get to it now, but I'm pretty sure I've got all the engines/searchers that most decklists use. Only thing I'm missing iirc is a third rescue cat. (Oh, and I guess I don't have that little Salamangreat guy, currently using a Linkuriboh as a temp filler)

Was getting a bit better at piloting it. Was able to make a turn 1 Appolousa/Ancient Warrior/Revolt board, which felt good. Dirty, but good. <_< Still finding myself floundering a bit as the game goes on, but I think I'm getting better each time.

Currently running the deck mostly pure because I don't have the material for Drident or Zeus, so I don't see much of a point in running the Zoo package. I could probably throw Simorgh and Barrier Statue in there but without the Lyrilusc cards I'm unsure of how good it would actually be.

Well...huh...maybe if instead of going into Appolousa, I could make Simorgh, Dragon Warrior, and Revolt. I'd lose negates but I'd get protection and a floodgate. Hmmmm....but then I wouldn't be able to Revolt into Bird Daddy until they took out the barrier statue...

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megamanfreakXD
04/04/22 12:20:34 AM
#497:


It's back up. New pass.

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FabIe
04/04/22 12:32:22 AM
#498:


Kim_Seong-a posted...
Can't get to it now, but I'm pretty sure I've got all the engines/searchers that most decklists use. Only thing I'm missing iirc is a third rescue cat. (Oh, and I guess I don't have that little Salamangreat guy, currently using a Linkuriboh as a temp filler)

Was getting a bit better at piloting it. Was able to make a turn 1 Appolousa/Ancient Warrior/Revolt board, which felt good. Dirty, but good. <_< Still finding myself floundering a bit as the game goes on, but I think I'm getting better each time.

Currently running the deck mostly pure because I don't have the material for Drident or Zeus, so I don't see much of a point in running the Zoo package. I could probably throw Simorgh and Barrier Statue in there but without the Lyrilusc cards I'm unsure of how good it would actually be.

Well...huh...maybe if instead of going into Appolousa, I could make Simorgh, Dragon Warrior, and Revolt. I'd lose negates but I'd get protection and a floodgate. Hmmmm....but then I wouldn't be able to Revolt into Bird Daddy until they took out the barrier statue...
I personally don't like the lyrilusc version anyway while we have Drident Unbanned.

Also you're running rescue cat? If you have kitt and kerass at 3 I can kind-of see it but it eats up your normal summon and would be super dead late game.

Def try to get you Zeus, Drident and Salamagreat asap. They make a huge difference.

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AdrianBeterson
04/04/22 12:33:50 AM
#499:


No new banlist, nothing really changed besides the leaked cards we already knew about. What the fuck is Konami doing. They're killing this game.

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FabIe
04/04/22 12:34:03 AM
#500:


Also fuck Eldlich in general.

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