Board 8 > Elden Ring Mafia Topic 7: Consecratered Snowfield

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Crescent-Moon posted...

Yes.

I can't talk about him without triggering him to vote me again.

Not everything is about you, no matter how much you keep trying for it. And I still think its bizarre you're alive untouched with an unlynchable claim on day 1, but no one else seems to agree on that front.

Sheep007 posted...

Doing an ISO of Panth. Has Isquen voted Panth at any point, out of curiosity?

Yep. Panth's walls of text seem both forced and rehearsed, and something early today set off a red flag for me. I can't quite put my finger on it.

Or rather I can't quite put my finger on how to describe it.

I think Panth's text walls are normal-ish for him. I don't, however, think much of his opinions and votes. The Marth vote was abysmal, the Ben vote was bad, the SBell vote was following MZero who appeared to have something damning. Outside of the massive walls (none of which I particularly like) it's mostly nothing.

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sheeps claim puts me at ease for not about that spot.
I want to give him some time to get into the game

reading Marth today I move him from probably town to could be anyways going to investigate a bit

Panth is probably scum but no need to rush it.

Corrik playing devils advocate idk if he is scum or town at this point. Corrik always goes against Chris

Ben has he actually claimed 3rd party or is everyone assuming?

Isquen getting better but still leaning scum to me. His play has thrown up some flags.

Chang the only thing that makes me think he is town is his claim. Seems pretty bold to claim Body guard as scum.

Death i don't have alot to go off of but I think could be one of the remaining scum.

The only ovi town I have a chris and Crescent-Moon.

Ulti a town lean.

Oh and Mzero is obviously town

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

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sheeps claim puts me at ease for not about that spot.
I want to give him some time to get into the game

reading Marth today I move him from probably town to could be anyways going to investigate a bit

Panth is probably scum but no need to rush it.

Corrik playing devils advocate idk if he is scum or town at this point. Corrik always goes against Chris

Ben has he actually claimed 3rd party or is everyone assuming?

Isquen getting better but still leaning scum to me. His play has thrown up some flags.

Chang the only thing that makes me think he is town is his claim. Seems pretty bold to claim Body guard as scum.

Death i don't have alot to go off of but I think could be one of the remaining scum.

The only ovi town I have a chris and Crescent-Moon.

Ulti a town lean.

Agreed about Sheep.

What about me today makes you change your mind?

Why do you think Panth is scum?

Fairly hedgy stance on Corrik. Can you go more in depth?

It's just assumed right now.

Can you give examples about what kind of flags that Isquen is giving off?

Agreed about chang.

Are you aware that Death is dead? Did you mean someone else? Possibly a townslip.

Why do you think those two are obvious town?

I agree about Ulti, but could you go more in depth?

Sultan... sweetie... I'm really sorry, and I know this might be upsetting, but Death was killed last night.

What is it about my claim that puts you at ease? and why is Ulti a town lean?

We are assuming Ben is third party because his start of day message said that there is a third party. There's not really a feasible explanation for it other than him being third party.

Reasons tou don't post without having your coffee first wow am I dumb

I copy and pasted part if my message today from my thoughts yesterday

Igcd not death...

You can obviously take your time but I would like you to answer Marth's questions, Sultan. You're probably going to be alive until the end of the game, whenever that is, and if it ends up being very long I'd rather your reads are as developed as possible.

If you're wary of IGCD, wanna come join me on him? I know the both of us wanna see more from him and it's a good idea to look more at those players who're kinda in that grey zone.

Speaking of players I wanna see more from, Chang! I don't remember a lot of you from this game, but last game you felt a much bigger voice. I think you're town and I don't wanna lynch you, but it's more based on the claim than any of your play.

Ill try to save face here and answer those questions..

What changed about Marth is that your stances seem to be a bit non commital today compared to yesterday. Like I said I do want to go back and look. Just my quick skim today something seems a bit different

Isquen has had the same red flags all game with tunneling and reverting back to Moon for some reason. Has been doing better breaking thst habit and actively searching though but could have been coached like her stop doing that it looks bad.

Corrik same as day 1 seems like he is playing for himself and not town. But playing devils advocate to chris is something I can see him do as town and scum.

I've mentioned time and time again about moon

Chris like I said his push for claims wasn't as harsh as the times he made me claim as scum leading to my mislynch.

Igcd is just a POE

Speaking of Chang I actually kinda like Panth's vote on him in topic 1. Forgot about that. Part of the issue with Panth's votes is that they're kinda launched at someone based on one weird looking post, left to sit with little pressure, and then head on to the next person. It doesn't really do much.

Aw yeah Bat was town. Guess who was right again.

Sheep thank you for making today a lot easier and sparing me millions of posts arguing to save a guy who can't post.

The reason panth is scum is because no one ever in the entire game has had a reason to say they think he's town. He is maximum POE at this point.

IGCD I could see being the third scum, but I think there was a thing he did at one point where I noted him as mortally confirmed town. I made a post commenting on it but I never write anything down. Once I'm at my computer I'll go on a journey to go find it

Chang's arguments around IGCD topic 1 (#460) and topic 2 (#18) give me warm fuzzy feelings

changmas posted...

sorry i forgot the only thing we should do right now is tread over the same corrik/crescent conversation for the 10th time and discuss Sbell/Sultan as if there's something crucial there right now on day 1

I like this post from topic 2 page 4 defending his setup met post. Mostly because it mirrors my thoughts when I was reading it because that crap made me zone out from the game. But also, it's defensive, yet in a town-feeling way. If that makes sense. It's not in a "oh no pls don't suspect me ;-;" sorta way but rather in a natural and balanced way.

maybe more from Chang soon but first I wanna say I am kinda leaning Ulti scum now (around the same level as IGCD) based on vibes and his godawful appraisal of the game day 1. Would like to talk to him a bit because I think it'll give me more than trudging through the Crescent fiasco D1.

PunishedBen posted...

Aw yeah Bat was town. Guess who was right again.

Sheep thank you for making today a lot easier and sparing me millions of posts arguing to save a guy who can't post.

The reason panth is scum is because no one ever in the entire game has had a reason to say they think he's town. He is maximum POE at this point.

IGCD I could see being the third scum, but I think there was a thing he did at one point where I noted him as mortally confirmed town. I made a post commenting on it but I never write anything down. Once I'm at my computer I'll go on a journey to go find it

I would like to see that post because I don't have a strong scumread on IGCD, but he still feels a tad off. I'd rather keep our options open and not sleepwalk to a Panth lynch with no extra info even if he is the best candidate right now.

Hey, Ulti. You said sometime D1 that you thought the scum team was Chang, Sultan, Isquen, Crescent, and one other (presumably SBell, at this point). How's that one going for ya?

Sheep007 posted...

Speaking of players I wanna see more from, Chang! I don't remember a lot of you from this game, but last game you felt a much bigger voice. I think you're town and I don't wanna lynch you, but it's more based on the claim than any of your play.

Hi Sheep, welcome.

I don't think this assessment is wrong, although last game I spent all of day 2 defending myself from Chris and didn't really branch out from that too much until the following day. I've been a bit lazy this game for sure, for reasons that are a combination of big paper due IRL tomorrow + 7 topics of posts to read back through + feeling like I've accomplished what I needed to this game thus far (making sure Mzero doesn't get lynched day 1). Town seems to have a good grasp on things today so I'm probably going to piggyback on Mzero's choice of lynch (if he posts one before deadline) and take it easy.

If I live through the night you have my word that I'll do a full readthrough + analysis on Monday night when I've actually got the time to do so.

TheSultanOfSlam posted...

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sheeps claim puts me at ease for not about that spot.
I want to give him some time to get into the game

reading Marth today I move him from probably town to could be anyways going to investigate a bit

Panth is probably scum but no need to rush it.

Corrik playing devils advocate idk if he is scum or town at this point. Corrik always goes against Chris

Ben has he actually claimed 3rd party or is everyone assuming?

Isquen getting better but still leaning scum to me. His play has thrown up some flags.

Chang the only thing that makes me think he is town is his claim. Seems pretty bold to claim Body guard as scum.

Death i don't have alot to go off of but I think could be one of the remaining scum.

The only ovi town I have a chris and Crescent-Moon.

Ulti a town lean.

This guy's dead what the hell

Keep reading moon

PunishedBen posted...

Aw yeah Bat was town. Guess who was right again.

Sheep thank you for making today a lot easier and sparing me millions of posts arguing to save a guy who can't post.

The reason panth is scum is because no one ever in the entire game has had a reason to say they think he's town. He is maximum POE at this point.

IGCD I could see being the third scum, but I think there was a thing he did at one point where I noted him as mortally confirmed town. I made a post commenting on it but I never write anything down. Once I'm at my computer I'll go on a journey to go find it

We kind of brushed aside IGCD after he immediately walked into the brushfire that is Chris, Corrik, and myself at the start of day 2, though I've never been entirely sure why people have been outright town reading him.

PunishedBen posted...

Aw yeah Bat was town. Guess who was right again.

Sheep thank you for making today a lot easier and sparing me millions of posts arguing to save a guy who can't post.

The reason panth is scum is because no one ever in the entire game has had a reason to say they think he's town. He is maximum POE at this point.

IGCD I could see being the third scum, but I think there was a thing he did at one point where I noted him as mortally confirmed town. I made a post commenting on it but I never write anything down. Once I'm at my computer I'll go on a journey to go find it

When Bat claimed yesterday, my vibe was that he was only scum if you were.

And given the one thing you're almost certainly not is scum...

I'm heading to work very soon so I don't have much time for anything else.

I'm definitely down for a IGCD vote. I've never been clear on why everyone was so certain he was town

I'm not sure there's any good reason not to just kill Panthera first.

Would not say I am against it though, if push comes to shove.

This is a just a 5 hour shift so I will be back well before the deadline. Not getting rid of me that easily <3

Crescent-Moon posted...

I'm not sure there's any good reason not to just kill Panthera first.

Where's your sense of adventure? Not knowing where the lynch is going five minutes before EoD really gets the blood pumping

Also there's a chance he might do something which leaves him worth keeping alive and I would rather as much info for later today if that does happen, or tomorrow if it doesn't.

Chang's defence of MZero in topic 4 feels super town to me. Dude seems so much better on a reread. There's absolutely no posts having gone back to look which make me feel iffy on him. Solid townread right now.

also the Scare/Crescent/Ben lynch choice D1 absolutely sucks jfc. Like, it's easy to say with hindsight and all, but the only vote on anyone at all I think has a decent chance of being scum comes from Death. I hate that obvTown Death got murdered N1. Be more like MZero and start shooting scumleans instead please.

I'd love it if you joined me, Chang. Get the game moving a little while we wait for Ben (and possibly Chris? I noticed that read just checking back) to dig out their reasons for why IGCD is town.

Sheep007 posted...

Where's your sense of adventure? Not knowing where the lynch is going five minutes before EoD really gets the blood pumping

Also there's a chance he might do something which leaves him worth keeping alive and I would rather as much info for later today if that does happen, or tomorrow if it doesn't.

I didn't say kill Panthera in the next 5 minutes~

And yes, Ben and I were at a combined 10 votes and were refusing to vote each other because we both felt it was wrong.

Scare practically begged us to kill him or I still probably end up the vote leader at the end of the day.

Crescent-Moon posted...

I didn't say kill Panthera in the next 5 minutes~

I know, but having a solid lynch set for like twelve hours of D2 just kills the game too quick, yanno?

Also I probably woulda lynched you in that scenario because at least if you're town you don't die. Scare was weird but did not give off scum Scare feelings.

I can't move my vote. How sad

I was willing to hear scare out but when he did ate I bounced lol

DoomTheGyarados posted...

I can't move my vote. How sad

it's ok I will be your second vote as long as you want it somewhere that I agree on x

or possibly your fourth vote after pocketed scum IGCD and Ben. Hopefully you don't lose count.

Quad voter is a mighty power. Let me see if I can remember why igcd is town

I made a mistake igcd is still in the poe. Carry on

Can I get a claims list if anyone has it handy?

Panthera has set off a major scumtell, Sheep. But, I wanted him to play with me and I will stand by him for now. = /

Also, I have absolutely no clue who is scum. Pretty sure someone has gambited to a town view which makes everything thrown off for me. I can't piece together a scum team that makes sense right now based on the information I have now if true.

The greatest gift one can give a scum friend us the sweet mercy of a kind snd respectful death.

Just going off memory:
Ben- "If only I had a Giant... Pickle" (no other claim yet, but inferred to be the message writer... whatever it does.)
Chang- Bodyguard
Red- Miller
Crescent- Unlynchable
Sheep- Dragon that shoots lightning and swords (or something) vanilla
Myself- Consumable (1-shot bulletproof)
Chris- Bulletproof from today's #instill.

Am I missing anyone else's?

I thought we had some vanilla claims?

Probably. Sbell had claimed vanilla but got shot. So Mzero is basically confirmed Day Vig and town-allied unless they did some Olympic levels of bussing.

Also Red claims Scarlet Rot.

(Sorry for weird formatting. Yet again, at work for a short shift, but sweet freedom in two hours until I get to do it all over on Monday. 6 day workweeks suck.)

IGCD, did you not claim Vanilla yourself?

Sheep007 posted...

IGCD, did you not claim Vanilla yourself?

Well yea but I also admitted that it was not serious. If you look at the context of my claim it is pretty obviously not serious.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Well yea but I also admitted that it was not serious. If you look at the context of my claim it is pretty obviously not serious.

hey we never know with you

Corrik7 posted...

Also, I have absolutely no clue who is scum. Pretty sure someone has gambited to a town view which makes everything thrown off for me. I can't piece together a scum team that makes sense right now based on the information I have now if true.

I kinda understand this, I feel like I'm in a similar scenario with a ridiculous number of obvtown or clears for D2. But for me rn the simple explanation is that there's a scumteam comprised of Panth, IGCD, and Ulti. I think you can replace Ulti fairly easily in this situation purely because you're the only remaining person I don't lean heavily town on, but I really just need to sit down, see where you both stand today and reread overnight and tomorrow. I'd rather focus my rereads on players I'm happy I can actually read in the meantime, and then build a proper scumteam in a day or two after we have more lynches and info.

I would also ask that Sultan and Marth avoid claiming at the very least today, and maybe until D4 depending on the flip today and any info tomorrow. I think they look good enough to get a pass for that long.

Oh yeah, mind if I ask what that Panth scumtell is, Corrik?

It seems just other than general vibe checking, the only specific posts of IGCD I can find that I remember liking are -

IfGodCouldDie posted...

Oh wait no. I was thinking Godfather for Ben, not Miller.

When he TOWNSLIPPED(?) and confused Miller for Godfather. Pretty sure scum has a godfather so he wouldn't have done that if on the scum team.

IfGodCouldDie posted...

I know I'm probably going to be lambasted for this... But I really don't like Ulti, Chris and Crescent.

They feel too much like they are working together behind the scenes.

And then this post from early today when i town-read this paranoia post.

Not the strongest. But much stronger than Panth or Corrik still.

Sbell pointed out death voted Ben and igcd and then spent all day going after one of them. Makes you think

Also when looking back I remembered calling out this post for going against the flavor split of being things Plum enjoyed

UltimaterializerX posted...

Correction again! My flavor name is ridiculous. Im The Sword that Got Nerfed.

I was originally going to be The Sword of Night and Flame, but it got nerfed when Plum was making the game and he changed it. That is my actual, paraphrased flavor. All to end in me being town vanilla.

So the very short of it is I believe Bat.

I did a bit of research and i take it back. Plum did use this sword and liked it.

mmm yeah sorry Ben that's not enough to convince me otherwise

the only people who townread you having done so partially through error is a bad sign