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refmon
04/12/22 4:04:49 PM
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https://variety.com/2022/film/news/fantastic-beasts-3-gay-dialogue-removed-warner-bros-explains-1235230373/

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PatrickMahomes
04/12/22 4:05:05 PM
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i mean this should surprise nobody

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ColdOne666
04/12/22 4:06:13 PM
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Hollywood is full of liars and hypocrites, who would have thought it.

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au_gold
04/12/22 4:07:11 PM
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I mean, obviously.

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AceMos
04/12/22 8:12:18 PM
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let me guess said dialog is super minor

like dumbledore goes "wow that guy has a nice hat"

and then rowling pats her self on the back thinking she is super hyper progressive for that

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FortuneCookie
04/12/22 8:18:40 PM
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It's shitty, but what are we going to do? Boycott China? Start World War III to force LGBTQ acceptance on them? Hell, we're struggling with that in parts of the US right now.

In the late 1930s, Hitler said he didn't want Jewish actors in Hollywood movies and pretty much everyone except the Warner Bros. complied or had their actors hide their Jewish identity. The Warners refused to market their films in Germany at a 33% loss of profits. Character like that is seldom seen when profits are involved.
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lilORANG
04/12/22 8:20:57 PM
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Probably edited out all of Yusef's scenes too.

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Dathrowed1
04/12/22 8:22:34 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
Start World War III to force LGBTQ acceptance on them?
Looking more like escalating involvement in Russia and Ukraine will do that

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Irony
04/12/22 8:22:40 PM
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AceMos posted...
let me guess said dialog is super minor

like dumbledore goes "wow that guy has a nice hat"

and then rowling pats her self on the back thinking she is super hyper progressive for that
No, there's a scene where there's a boxset of Sex in the City on Dumbledore's shelf.

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Hambo the Hog
04/12/22 8:23:34 PM
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A series written by a transphobic author edited to remove references to gay people for a homophobic market? Pikachu has never been more surprised.

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DespondentDeity
04/12/22 8:23:40 PM
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Irony posted...
No, there's a scene where there's a boxset of Sex in the City on Dumbledore's shelf.

that would be pretty fuckin gay

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FortuneCookie
04/12/22 8:23:54 PM
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Dathrowed1 posted...
Looking more like escalating involvement in Russia and Ukraine will do that

If that happens, it'll be the third World War and the second American Civil War.
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Llaeto7
04/13/22 12:30:12 PM
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Warner Bros says :We did this "small change" (AKA a critical plot point remove) so China's audiences can also enjoy this movie (AKA give us their money)
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Blue_Inigo
04/13/22 12:31:40 PM
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FortuneCookie posted...
It's shitty, but what are we going to do? Boycott China? Start World War III to force LGBTQ acceptance on them? Hell, we're struggling with that in parts of the US right now.

In the late 1930s, Hitler said he didn't want Jewish actors in Hollywood movies and pretty much everyone except the Warner Bros. complied or had their actors hide their Jewish identity. The Warners refused to market their films in Germany at a 33% loss of profits. Character like that is seldom seen when profits are involved.
Do you ever get tired of saying the dumbest shit

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NeonOctopus
04/13/22 12:36:48 PM
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China is just gonna be China. I remember seeing a video where a bunch of US basketball players went over there to play an exhibition game and the crowd was just yelling nonstop n-words at them >___>

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eston
04/13/22 12:44:11 PM
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This is how localization works

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dioxxys
04/13/22 2:19:52 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Do you ever get tired of saying the dumbest shit
I mean what can you do he's got a point? Fail to see how this is dumb.

We can't force China to do anything

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Llaeto7
04/13/22 2:21:55 PM
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dioxxys posted...
I mean what can you do he's got a point? Fail to see how this is dumb.

We can't force China to do anything

Warner Bros edited the movie at China's request.
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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/13/22 2:29:55 PM
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https://twitter.com/MarkHamill/status/1501323467353833474?s=20&t=sf7DKogIBH4LtOf5YRjBeg

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dioxxys
04/13/22 2:30:19 PM
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Llaeto7 posted...
Warner Bros edited the movie at China's request.
I mean otherwise the movie just wouldn't have been released, do you think they're going to forgo making money for morals?
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Crescente
04/13/22 2:39:59 PM
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Can we stop bending over for China? That'd be great.
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Llaeto7
04/13/22 2:43:07 PM
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dioxxys posted...
I mean otherwise the movie just wouldn't have been released, do you think they're going to forgo making money for morals?

That is precisely the point...? Why are you missing that?
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Pogo_Marimo
04/13/22 2:47:56 PM
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Llaeto7 posted...
That is precisely the point...? Why are you missing that?
But do we really need to do this every time? It's so obvious and common sense. Furthermore, it's not like NOT doing the edit and NOT releasing the film in China helps gay people either. Chinese people aren't going to reconsider their bigotry because a Hollywood movie wasn't released in their country. It's shitty, but there's nothing to discuss.

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Llaeto7
04/13/22 2:50:17 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
But do we really need to do this every time? It's so obvious and common sense. Furthermore, it's not like NOT doing the edit and NOT releasing the film in China helps gay people either. Chinese people aren't going to reconsider their bigotry because a Hollywood movie wasn't released in their country. It's shitty, but there's nothing to discuss.

Yes, a massive studio refusing to do a homophobic edit to a movie of one of the most popular franchises of all time for a country would have no impact, of course. Nothing at all.

It's funny to see Americans sharing videos of Russians speweing government propaganda while justifying shit like this because it means money for American corporations.
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Xavier_On_High
04/13/22 2:52:49 PM
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Hambo the Hog posted...
A series written by a transphobic author edited to remove references to gay people for a homophobic market? Pikachu has never been more surprised.

It is pretty surprising, really. Rowling may be a lot of awful things, but at least she's always been strongly in favour of gay rights.

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Pogo_Marimo
04/13/22 2:56:48 PM
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Llaeto7 posted...
Yes, a massive studio refusing to do a homophobic edit to a movie of one of the most popular franchises of all time for a country would have no impact, of course. Nothing at all.

It's funny to see Americans sharing videos of Russians speweing government propaganda while justifying shit like this because it means money for American corporations.
Do you actually think Chinese people are even remotely receptive to an American Company trying to preach morals about diversity at them? It is stunning that you would imply that I am myopic because I'm American when you have not even bothered to consider the basic perspective of a Chinese person viewing Western media, especially things that could easily be perceived as punitive towards the Chinese people due to their values (Withholding movie releases because they're bigoted).

So ignorant. Not to mention that people will probably just bootleg the movie with a homemade edit and distribute it locally anyways, with implicit support from the CCP to do so.

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Llaeto7
04/13/22 3:03:57 PM
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Pogo_Marimo posted...
Do you actually think Chinese people are even remotely receptive to an American Company trying to preach morals about diversity at them? It is stunning that you would imply that I am myopic because I'm American when you have not even bothered to consider the basic perspective of a Chinese person viewing Western media, especially things that could easily be perceived as punitive towards the Chinese people due to their values (Withholding movie releases because they're bigoted).

...you think the "goal" would be to "preach morals" with a 6 second video? You think that's the endgame? Chinese people seeing that particular scene and going "oh wow I guess it's ok to be gay"? Not the message the US would send to China (government) and the rest of the world?

Nah, it's a sold out nation, and here you have some civilians justifying those sell out "values" because "they don't have a choice". Poor Warner Bros, poor Disney.

Pogo_Marimo posted...
So ignorant. Not to mention that people will probably just bootleg the movie with a homemade edit and distribute it locally anyways, with implicit support from the CCP to do so.

Wait, wait, wait. You're telling me "losing out on money" would cause the CCP to endorse the populace to watch an extremely popular movie, uncut, with an explicitly gay main character? And that would be a bad thing? Why?

Oh, right, the money.
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Cuticrusader09
04/13/22 3:16:40 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
i mean this should surprise nobody

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VitalGetPrank
04/13/22 4:25:37 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
https://twitter.com/MarkHamill/status/1501323467353833474?s=20&t=sf7DKogIBH4LtOf5YRjBeg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSaN3KbyH6g&t=151s

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garan
04/13/22 5:23:10 PM
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ColdOne666 posted...
Hollywood is full of liars and hypocrites, who would have thought it.


The almighty dollar means infinitely more than their supposed ethics.
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Llaeto7
04/13/22 11:55:15 PM
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garan posted...
The almighty dollar means infinitely more than their supposed ethics.

Why wouldn't it, when apologists like @Pogo_Marimo will blindly defend them anyway.
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Smashingpmkns
04/13/22 11:55:52 PM
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Dumbledore is gay?!

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AceMos
04/14/22 11:45:27 AM
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Xavier_On_High posted...
It is pretty surprising, really. Rowling may be a lot of awful things, but at least she's always been strongly in favour of gay rights.
HA yea fucking right

she puts on a performance but she has done jack fucking shit for gay ppl

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Fenriswolf
04/14/22 12:16:18 PM
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NeonOctopus posted...
China is just gonna be China. I remember seeing a video where a bunch of US basketball players went over there to play an exhibition game and the crowd was just yelling nonstop n-words at them >___>

Even though LBJ and the NBA in general is huge in China? I mean the US isn't short of their share of racist nationalist idiots.

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AngelsNAirwav3s
04/14/22 12:41:11 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMyJ_0TCy0k

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