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DragonClaw01 06/03/22 7:33:46 PM #304: |
Raze_Razel posted... SInce it's part of the main trial....yes...https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/9/7/9/AAR-4XAADTLT.jpg --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfFa 06/03/22 8:59:27 PM #305: |
Wait Jen actually works in law, right? --- girls like my fa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/03/22 9:09:49 PM #306: |
ReturnOfFa posted... Wait Jen actually works in law, right? I work law adjacent. I handle litigated claim files. So I have to deal with the process of a lawsuit in every one of my claims pretty much. And I have worked that job for 3 years. Before that I worked in non litigated files but still dealing with attorneys for 5 years. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raze_Razel 06/03/22 9:27:08 PM #307: |
I'm a PhD and an MD, been to space, and hold patents on the plastic ends you see on shoelaces. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jen0125 06/03/22 9:30:38 PM #308: |
Raze_Razel posted... I'm a PhD and an MD, been to space, and hold patents on the plastic ends you see on shoelaces. I mean I work in insurance claims not rocket science so this is a bit of an overreaction ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raze_Razel 06/03/22 9:38:44 PM #309: |
https://movieweb.com/johnny-depp-disney-exec-predicts-return-pirates/ "I absolutely believe post-verdict that Pirates is primed for rebooting with Johnny as Captain Jack back on board. There is just too much potential box-office treasure for a beloved character deeply embedded in the Disney culture. With [producer] Jerry Bruckheimer riding high on the massive success of Tom Cruise in Top Gun: Maverick, there is huge appetite for bringing back bankable Hollywood stars in massively popular franchises." Suddenly Disney is all friendly, huh Adam? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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agesboy 06/03/22 9:40:13 PM #310: |
jumping in to say that while I 100% agree with the jury's decision based on what I witnessed from the trial, Raze_Razel posted... Does this prove that we rrrrreeealllly need to "believe all women"....?i am not looking forward to this kind of mentality being galvanized, especially by the conservative right. even fucking RITTENHOUSE is trying to weaponize this shit. no this isn't a fucking "women lie!!" moment, it's "men are just as susceptible to abuse as women are, and this one woman appears to be an extreme outlier" not gonna read this topic because potd and politics is lol --- http://i.imgur.com/LabbRyN.jpg raytan and Kana are on opposite ends of the Awesome Spectrum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonClaw01 06/03/22 9:55:54 PM #311: |
Raze_Razel posted... https://movieweb.com/johnny-depp-disney-exec-predicts-return-pirates/I still have a hard time believing Johnny can act well any more. As much as I laughed at the phycho, psychologist Heard's team brought out, I actually have to agree with him that Johnny's cognitive state has went down significantly. I mean Johnny could barely speak properly the second time he went to the stand & seem confused. It worked out well for him there because when he said he didn't recall something you believed it, but if you can barely testify, good luck being the protagonist in a movie. He seemed pretty washed. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Adam_Savage 06/03/22 10:43:31 PM #312: |
Raze_Razel posted... Suddenly Disney is all friendly, huh Adam? i never said anything about depps relationship with disney, and i also have no opinion on it, so sure --- that's one body that'll never be found you see, little sister don't miss when she aims her gun ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raze_Razel 06/03/22 10:52:39 PM #313: |
Adam_Savage posted... no opinion on it, so Lying again, since you got all triggered over the reasons behind Disney's financial woes, which failing at playing gender politics is one of them....so yeah, you do have an opinion. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Adam_Savage 06/04/22 2:05:59 AM #314: |
on that? yes on their working relationship with an actor or actress? no, couldn't care less about that they're both two extremely different situations --- that's one body that'll never be found you see, little sister don't miss when she aims her gun ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raze_Razel 06/04/22 2:16:04 AM #315: |
Adam_Savage posted... they're both two extremely different situations different, but related. Again, Disney hemorrhaging money playing gender politics. Depp is recovering from being slandered. Both need a win, Disney moreso.... DragonClaw01 posted... I still have a hard time believing Johnny can act well any more. As much as I laughed at the phycho, psychologist Heard's team brought out, I actually have to agree with him that Johnny's cognitive state has went down significantly. I mean Johnny could barely speak properly the second time he went to the stand & seem confused. It worked out well for him there because when he said he didn't recall something you believed it, but if you can barely testify, good luck being the protagonist in a movie. He seemed pretty washed. ...but you're forgetting one thing....."He's Captain Jack Sparrow". ...no really, that's Sparrow's whole shtick, acting all drunk and whimsical as such. Wouldn't take much to get back in that role. Also that whole slurred speech thing, is because of ADD and anxiety issues he admitted having all his life, which could explain his substance abuse issues which is not uncommon among those types. And obviously doesn't bode well being in an abusive relationship with a psyhco-bitch like Heard either, probably sent him over the edge. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Revelation34 06/04/22 2:28:17 AM #316: |
Jen0125 posted...
The jury decided that she lied in the Washington Post article since they ruled in his favor for all claims with it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 06/04/22 10:39:46 AM #317: |
Ouch. https://pagesix.com/2022/06/04/insiders-say-comeback-will-be-very-hard-for-amber-heard/ After humiliation in the courtroom, Amber Heard is now facing ostracism in Hollywood. An activist is completely confused as to why Amber is getting zero support: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/metoo-activists-johnny-depp-amber-heard-trial-celebrities-1235157972/ While major stars and the industry activist group Times Up mobilized around other high-profile #MeToo cases like Harvey Weinsteins and Bill Cosbys, there has been no such movement around the Depp-Heard trial, which involves allegations of domestic violence and sexual assault. Also, she and her lawyer are still trending for being degenerates: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/0/5/AAaB-xAADTR9.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LeetCheet 06/04/22 10:51:49 AM #318: |
A proven scumbag receiving some sweet karma. Hilarious. --- https://i.imgur.com/eQrRxik.jpg https://imgur.com/NC8itow.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonClaw01 06/04/22 11:00:44 AM #319: |
Raze_Razel posted... different, but related.I suppose, but if the dude didn't play guitar or had some good spontaneous quips for Rottenborn I would've thought the dude had dementia. The dude could barely remember and testify properly about the time he lost his friggin finger due to Heard, his lawyers had to baby him through it. I mean how can't you describe the time you fricken lost your finger properly. How baked are you Depp? --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 06/04/22 11:20:29 AM #320: |
LeetCheet posted... A proven scumbag receiving some sweet karma.It's disturbing seeing news outlets pitch a fit about the trial, still trying to act like Heard is the victim and people not buying it = misogyny. Rolling Stone and TheGuardian in particular... both I used to trust as good sources of journalism and have eroded that faith over the past ~ 15 years, and their articles on this trial were basically the death knell in them ever being more than DailyMail level tabloids from now on. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TonyCIifton 06/04/22 11:26:43 AM #321: |
You can really tell who the angry incels are when reading through topics like this. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 06/04/22 11:29:06 AM #322: |
TonyCIifton posted... You can really tell who the angry incels are when reading through topics like this.A random account with one active posts comes out of nowhere to post a brain-dead comment like this. Please use your real account to post some regurgitated info you probably got from Jezebel.com ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raze_Razel 06/04/22 11:29:19 AM #323: |
TonyCIifton posted... You can really tell who the angry incels are when reading through topics like this. As opposed to the angry femi-nazis that's been discredited now,..? flip-sides, yo. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonClaw01 06/04/22 11:35:35 AM #325: |
Well, I suppose everyone that watched the case are incels then because I haven't heard of anyone that watched that case and believed Amber. Almost everyone is unanimously against her that watch it. It is actually pretty amazing there is this much agreement on something. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/04/22 11:38:19 AM #326: |
TonyCIifton posted... You can really tell who the angry incels are when reading through topics like this. --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 06/04/22 11:44:43 AM #327: |
DragonClaw01 posted... Well, I suppose everyone that watched the case are incels then because I haven't heard of anyone that watched that case and believed Amber. Almost everyone is unanimously against her that watch it. It is actually pretty amazing there is this much agreement on something.It's a good thing they are in the minority. The majority of people believe that Amber is being criticized for her abuse of Johnny, not because of her gender. The only people commenting that the majority of people supporting Johnny are "incels" are misandrists who are too dumb to do any critical thinking. They are also too dumb to realize that they are infantilizing women by saying that any valid criticism thrown towards a woman is too much, which actually hurts women. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/04/22 11:51:00 AM #328: |
Theyre both pieces of --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonClaw01 06/04/22 11:56:45 AM #329: |
ZannoL posted... It's a good thing they are in the minority.I know, but it is pretty pathetic just the level of ignorance it takes to have the position that all people that criticize Heard are incels and this is a view being essentially parroted around the MSM, so it it is the narrative that the powers that be want us to believe. I mean if you watched the trial, you would see the vast majority of Depp fans standing outside the courtroom were woman. Outside of the fact that it was mostly middle aged woman, you would think the trial was a Justin Bieber concert or something. So this narrative that it is just a bunch of He Man woman haters against Heard is preposterous. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonClaw01 06/04/22 11:57:11 AM #330: |
VampireCoyote posted... Theyre both pieces ofI give you an A for effort. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 06/04/22 12:55:26 PM #331: |
https://youtu.be/HMeaBvJI5_w?t=229 Legal Eagle covering the verdict. 3:49 - 4:22 and 6:59 - 7:18 in particular is pretty good. Really shuts down some narratives. I'll link directly to 3:49 in the video, just to help. :) DragonClaw01 posted... I give you an A for effort.I don't. Mead's posts are pretty low-effort, including calling anyone who disagrees an incel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raze_Razel 06/04/22 3:30:25 PM #332: |
streamofthesky posted... https://youtu.be/HMeaBvJI5_w?t=229 @10:00 ...proves the real issue that I've been standing by the whole time. Still makes me right, but I'll admit for the wrong the reasons. On principle, I've always questioned Heard's ability to make any appeal stick, despite what Jen "knows". Again there are more legal troubles for Heard since there is still a question of her perjuring herself, as well (as the video says) ACLU is open to being sued by her as well. So her continued path is not going to be easy at all. But what was explained on the video is that in order for Heard to do ANYTHING next, she needs to pay up the $10,350,000 first. The Appeals Court isn't going to do anything for her, until that is settled. That is it, end of story..... But someone in a passing conversation told me, Depp still needs to pay his $2 million to Heard, as Heard needs to pay him $10,350,000. The money does NOT get subtracted, they both need to front their money first, and then it'll balance out later... Trying to confirm that. Either it is $8,350,000 or $10,350,000, Heard's net worth is estimated only at around $6,000,000....She's dead, flat, broke.... and she's been blackballed by Hollywood too (I'd be surprised if she was still finding work), her IMDB only has two indy movies in post-production. If she was a fast rising star as her lawyers made her out to be, she would've had at least a dozen or more on the line...but nope...no one wants her. She'll need to give up her Aquaman 2 money and whatever was left from the 7,000,000 divorce settlement from before. She'll never be able to get an appeal, she won't be able to afford any lawyer, even the discount lawyers she used in the trial. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 06/04/22 3:35:49 PM #333: |
Soo..... what'd Depp do that warrants $2million? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raze_Razel 06/04/22 3:40:09 PM #334: |
Lokarin posted... Soo..... what'd Depp do that warrants $2million? The publists he had went rogue to make a bunch of defamatory statements online about Heard, after the UK trial. But Depp has since fired that guy, as those statements weren't approved by him. However, Depp still had to own the statement, so he has to pay....but Depp's net worth is like $150,000,000 so it's a parking ticket to him. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 06/04/22 3:44:59 PM #335: |
Raze_Razel posted... The publists he had went rogue to make a bunch of defamatory statements online about Heard, after the UK trial. But Depp has since fired that guy, as those statements weren't approved by him. However, Depp still had to own the statement, so he has to pay....but Depp's net worth is like $150,000,000 so it's a parking ticket to him. huh, sounds like that since it was already proven as defamatory that Depp should have no trouble suing his former publicist/whoever to recoup some --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wolfy42 06/04/22 4:03:39 PM #336: |
Not gonna watch the video but from my recollection. In a verdict like this both parties need to pay the money owed, but in Depp's case he can "pay himself" so he pays the $2million but it gets given right back to him as partial payment by Heard, reducing the amount she owes to $8.35 mill. Pretty sure it works the same way here as in family court etc. I'm not down on the appeal process for something like this, but I know that you can normally appeal something without fronting the money owed. This isn't my type of law though, and that may be different, also it's quite possible that it could be a bond for a % of the total money owed as well (IE 10% of the 8.35 mill or 835k). In theory that could be put up by someone else for her as well I believe, and also possibly returned after the appeal even if they don't win. Don't have the info on that and not going to do the research. I still think an appeal by heard would be stupid though as honestly she got of lucky especially considering the complusary damages were capped. The jury intended for her to pay $15 mill not 10.35, and would probably have changed the way the split the damages if they had known in advance (they don't let the jury know those things specifically to avoid them splitting it differently). Even the same jury given another shot at it would probably cause her to pay more. ANOTHER jury that would have to be made up of people who have seen all the media coverage and hate or Heard could drastically increase the amount she owes.....and considering the current general opinion on this case, almost certainly would either just A: Uphold the current judgment or B: Increase the amount owed by Heard or reduce/erase the amount that was ruled against for Depp. Best bet for Heard in my opinion is to try and avoid being in the public eye for a bit, try and get some job that allows her to make a decent amount of money and create a payment plan to pay off the money she owes so she can still live a fairly comfortable life. Also invest in masks that hide her identity lol. --- Tacobot 3000 "Saving the world from not having tacos." Friends don't make their friends die Hanz. Psychopathic friends do. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Adam_Savage 06/04/22 4:28:11 PM #337: |
Raze_Razel posted...
no she doesn't. if she doesn't appeal, then yes, she does. --- that's one body that'll never be found you see, little sister don't miss when she aims her gun ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonClaw01 06/04/22 4:49:12 PM #338: |
Lokarin posted... huh, sounds like that since it was already proven as defamatory that Depp should have no trouble suing his former publicist/whoever to recoup someIt was his lawyer, Mr. Waldman, that made the statement. The whole thing was a bit of a stretch legally to be honest, since we don't know if Waldman was acting as Depp's agent in regards to the publication (although, it is a reasonable assumption to assume so) or if it was made with actual malice, since you would have to prove that the statement was known to be incorrect or even if the statement caused Heard damages, which is a stretch since Heard still kept her Aquaman 2 & Loriel contracts and didn't appear to be damaged by it. To me it looked like it was done just to please a holdout juror. The deliberations lasted part of Friday, all of Tuesday & a good portion of Wednesday, so there was most likely some disagreement within the body. This was probably thrown as a bone to the Heard holdout and would be the most palatable to the Depp supporters, since the claim that Heard staged the apartment scene was a bit dubious and not really backed up by evidence, so would be the easiest to give up in a compromise. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonClaw01 06/04/22 5:02:38 PM #339: |
Adam_Savage posted... no she doesn't.I don't even see how she could appeal. Her legal fees for the court case were six million, so that wipes most of the divorce settlement & her acting career only earned her about 10 million gross, so the Depp judgement should wipe away her residual wealth. Her next legal case will probably be a bankruptcy proceeding rather than an appeal. I guess she can always buy a big house in Florida to keep through the bankruptcy proceedings though, since homes there can't be discharged through bankruptcy if you file for bankruptcy there. --- <('.'<) <(^.^)> (>'.')> Splendiferous ... Copied to Clipboard!
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reruns_revenge 06/04/22 5:47:13 PM #340: |
1. Even following an appeal, typically monetary judgments are enforceable unless the losing party obtains a stay, which usually requires them to post a bond in the full amount of the judgment plus interest and other amounts. 2. A bond for a judgment of this size would be very expensive and it is not clear whether she has the resources to obtain one. Also unclear how she will fund the legal fees for an appeal, although there seem to be enough people that are true believers in her story notwitstanding both of their behavior. 3. So the notion that simply filing an appeal will stay execution of the judgment is likely completely wrong although I do not know VA law, and she may not able to afford a bond to get one. While courts can waive the bond requirement, I see no reason to do so in this case - if anything, her admission that she can't pay the judgment weighs heavily against it. 4. Filing for bankruptcy would automatically stay execution of the judgment, which would allow her to pursue the appeal. However, legal fees in bankruptcy cases like these are not cheap either, and if the judgment is not vacated, it will do her no good because it will not be dischargeable. She will be stuck with it and still owe the money. At best, she might be able to structure repayment, but with what income. 5. Attempting to convert her assets into something exempt at this point also will not help because it would be a fraudulent transfer. 6. My speculation is that there will either be a settlement or she will find some nitwits to help her financially with legal fees and the related process, and see what happens with an appeal. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 06/04/22 6:04:03 PM #341: |
I love that she's still young and healthy, but the thought of her ever doing a "regular person job" for a few decades is unfathomable, so her options are always presented as either she's gonna find some way out with bankruptcy, or get deranged supporters or OF simps to bail her out. Because working is completely beneath her, despite being physically able. What a tough life she has. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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reruns_revenge 06/04/22 6:15:46 PM #342: |
But she will never be able to satisfy the judgment with a regular job. She won't even be able to make a dent in the post-judgment interest that would accrue. If the judgment is not vacated or massively reduced, she simply cannot make enough income with a regular job. This case perfectly illustrates the consequences of asymmetrical interests in litigation and taking actions that provide little upside while creating potential exposure to massive liability. He had a strong incentive to pursue the case to rehabilitate his reputation and public perception and had little to lose and much to gain. In constrast, she had little to gain and much more to lose by publishing the op-ed and defending the lawsuit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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streamofthesky 06/04/22 6:32:52 PM #343: |
reruns_revenge posted... But she will never be able to satisfy the judgment with a regular job. She won't even be able to make a dent in the post-judgment interest that would accrue. If the judgment is not vacated or massively reduced, she simply cannot make enough income with a regular job.She has million dollar homes. She's not some fucking broke janitor or Starbucks barista! She won't be able to live the rich lifestyle she did before. That's it. She can still survive living like a middle class person w/ a middle class job after this. But that's not good enough, right? She's a celebrity, so she should be entitled to living it up the rest of her life! This case perfectly illustrates the consequences of asymmetrical interests in litigation and taking actions that provide little upside while creating potential exposure to massive liability. He had a strong incentive to pursue the case to rehabilitate his reputation and public perception and had little to lose and much to gain. In constrast, she had little to gain and much more to lose by publishing the op-ed and defending the lawsuit.She has assets, she can pay this, she just doesn't want the consequences of doing so (being middle class). He lost tens of millions of dollars between the defamation and legal costs, all for a minuscule chance of winning since defamation cases are tough to prove. She thought she had something to gain from it, the cred and sympathy of being a victim, and she never thought he'd actually win (and stated as much). Ultimately, she made some very poor decisions, and those don't retroactively become "brave" or "heroic" because in hindsight.... yeah, it totally wasn't worth it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Adam_Savage 06/04/22 6:55:17 PM #344: |
i actually don't think that he would have won had he not pushed for it to be aired live --- that's one body that'll never be found you see, little sister don't miss when she aims her gun ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 06/04/22 7:00:39 PM #345: |
Adam_Savage posted... i actually don't think that he would have won had he not pushed for it to be aired liveIt was actually the judge who fought to have it televised. https://twitter.com/LauraBockov/status/1527639978330701824?s=20&t=laO9Blp4Se7IzbKRKb9F6Q ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Adam_Savage 06/04/22 7:03:54 PM #346: |
okay well he agreed to it, at the very least get fucked amber lmao --- that's one body that'll never be found you see, little sister don't miss when she aims her gun ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 06/04/22 7:04:36 PM #347: |
Adam_Savage posted... okay well he agreed to it, at the very leastYeah. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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reruns_revenge 06/04/22 7:08:16 PM #348: |
The real problem with her defense can be found when she looks in the mirror. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VampireCoyote 06/04/22 7:18:28 PM #349: |
reruns_revenge posted... The real problem with her defense can be found when she looks in the mirror. a riddle. . . --- She/her ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 06/04/22 7:37:56 PM #350: |
Looks like Amber has found her one supporter. None other than the controversial Kathy Griffin: https://www.newsweek.com/kathy-griffin-slams-johnny-depp-bloated-boozebag-amber-heard-verdict-1712841 Kathy Griffin didn't mince words when asked for her opinion of Johnny Depp this week, calling him an "orange, fat, bloated boozebag." As a result, shes now trending on Twitter, where a whole bunch of people are blasting her for her pettiness and her attempt at relevance: https://twitter.com/0517pomta/status/1533082104082223106?s=21&t=M1R7KNNmsPe73Dwzc6DvLw https://twitter.com/daveaz3g/status/1533154019887132672?s=21&t=M1R7KNNmsPe73Dwzc6DvLw https://twitter.com/darknookshop/status/1533190734521634817?s=21&t=M1R7KNNmsPe73Dwzc6DvLw ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Adam_Savage 06/04/22 7:44:40 PM #351: |
i forgot entirely that she existed --- that's one body that'll never be found you see, little sister don't miss when she aims her gun ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bloodychess 06/04/22 7:48:42 PM #352: |
Adam_Savage posted... i forgot entirely that she existedShe had 15 minutes of fame when she posted a pic of holding a decapitated Trump head, other than that only the elderly really know who she is. --- Support your local gamestop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bloodychess 06/04/22 7:50:45 PM #353: |
Jen0125 posted... I hope she appeals citing inadequate representation if she can. Her attorneys were absolutely horrible. I never really understand these sorts of posts. It's Amber Heard, am I supposed to believe she hired some 3rd rate discount legal team? They did the best with what they had to work with, which wasn't much. --- Support your local gamestop. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 06/05/22 9:35:28 PM #354: |
The psychiatrist who backed up Amber Heard during trial is completely shocked that the entire public is backing Johnny instead of Amber. Also, he has received backlash so bad that he has basically gone into hiding: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/psychiatrist-testified-depp-heard-trial-231513418.html Dr. David Spiegel, a psychiatrist who testified for Amber Heard in Johnny Depps defamation trial with his ex-wife, said that he has suffered horrific post-trial backflow from reactions to his experience on the witness stand. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/5/6/AAaB-xAADTrw.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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