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UnfairRepresent 06/13/22 6:13:42 PM #1:	https://youtu.be/38D35cHZ7eI Seriously stop reading now if you haven't played the game or don't because it's not a very good game anyway. But it always bugged me. If Nicole was dead the entire time and Isaac was in such denial that he... flew to the station for some reason despite knowing she was dead... WTF is going on in this sequence? The door is closed and Nicole has to open it for you... But Nicole is a halluncation that doesn't exist..... but the enemies attack her and get a game over if they kill her, the same enemies also attack you... and the door is real and Nicole's non existant hallucination flat out does open it for you. So wtf how does this make any sense? On any level. It doesn't work as a metaphor, it doesn't work as reality and it doesn't work as a hallucination Is Nichole just some random survivor who Isaac is imagining as Nicole in some kind of Martin Walker situation? Because if so you just leave them behind and never think about them again which is unintentionally hilarious from their perspective Some guy, let's call her Andrea, survives all this nonsense, is surrounded by monsters,a big burly guy in armor bursts in, you open the door for him putting your life at risk so you can escape.. Then he just wanders off and you die alone. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:965786558] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>https://youtu.be/38D35cHZ7eI Seriously stop reading now if you haven't played the game or don't because it's not a very good game anyway. But it always bugged me. If Nicole was dead the entire time and Isaac was in such denial that he... flew to the station for some reason despite knowing she was dead... WTF is going on in this sequence? The door is closed and Nicole has to open it for you... But Nicole is a halluncation that doesn't exist..... but the enemies attack her and get a game over if they kill her, the same enemies also attack you... and the door is real and Nicole's non existant hallucination flat out does open it for you. So wtf how does this make any sense? On any level. It doesn't work as a metaphor, it doesn't work as reality and it doesn't work as a hallucination Is Nichole just some random survivor who Isaac is imagining as Nicole in some kind of Martin Walker situation? Because if so you just leave them behind and never think about them again which is unintentionally hilarious from their perspective Some guy, let's call her Andrea, survives all this nonsense, is surrounded by monsters,a big burly guy in armor bursts in, you open the door for him putting your life at risk so you can escape.. Then he just wanders off and you die alone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/13/22 6:19:27 PM #2:	The door was probably never locked or unlocked automatically after you killed the necros --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:965786772] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>The door was probably never locked or unlocked automatically after you killed the necros </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ToadallyAwesome 06/13/22 6:22:03 PM #3:	hockeybub89 posted... The door was probably never locked or unlocked automatically after you killed the necros This. The game is told from Issacs broken perspective. I think you answered your own question or its this. And thats not even getting into what ever the Marker could be doing. --- http://imgur.com/QKdxwuI <cite>ToadallyAwesome posted [p:965786875] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>The door was probably never locked or unlocked automatically after you killed the necros</quote> This. The game is told from Issacs broken perspective. I think you answered your own question or its this. And thats not even getting into what ever the Marker could be doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/13/22 6:23:00 PM #4:	hockeybub89 posted... The door was probably never locked or unlocked automatically after you killed the necros Yet You can't go through it The Necros attack Nicole You get a game over if they kill her Doesn't add up This is why Silent Hill 2 made such a big deal about getting across that Maria was real and corporal. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:965786927] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>The door was probably never locked or unlocked automatically after you killed the necros</quote>Yet You can't go through itThe Necros attack NicoleYou get a game over if they kill her Doesn't add up This is why Silent Hill 2 made such a big deal about getting across that Maria was real and corporal. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Slayer_22 06/13/22 6:29:26 PM #5:	UnfairRepresent posted... Yet 1. You can't go through it 2. The Necros attack Nicole 3. You get a game over if they kill her Doesn't add up This is why Silent Hill 2 made such a big deal about getting across that Maria was real and corporal. Isaac likely was just hallucinating the entire event, man. Necros don't exist. Door is fine. Isaac is just having an episode. As for the game over, it's no different from a Time Paradox in MGS. Sure, you could logically continue the game, but the story would be outside the confines of what the game wants to tell. --- "And no I'm not signing your twitter after this type of attitude so don't ask..." - IIINCORRUPTIBLE <cite>Slayer_22 posted [p:965787148] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Yet 1. You can't go through it 2. The Necros attack Nicole 3. You get a game over if they kill her Doesn't add up This is why Silent Hill 2 made such a big deal about getting across that Maria was real and corporal.</quote>Isaac likely was just hallucinating the entire event, man. Necros don't exist. Door is fine. Isaac is just having an episode. As for the game over, it's no different from a Time Paradox in MGS. Sure, you could logically continue the game, but the story would be outside the confines of what the game wants to tell. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/13/22 6:29:47 PM #6:	UnfairRepresent posted... Yet 1. You can't go through it 2. The Necros attack Nicole 3. You get a game over if they kill her Doesn't add up This is why Silent Hill 2 made such a big deal about getting across that Maria was real and corporal. You're thinking too hard about Isaac being fucking insane and manipulated by the marker. Most of that scene is likely just not real. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:965787158] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>UnfairRepresent posted... </cite> <quote>Yet 1. You can't go through it 2. The Necros attack Nicole 3. You get a game over if they kill her Doesn't add up This is why Silent Hill 2 made such a big deal about getting across that Maria was real and corporal.</quote>You're thinking too hard about Isaac being fucking insane and manipulated by the marker. Most of that scene is likely just not real. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punished_Blinx 06/13/22 6:31:52 PM #7:	It's a Game Over because you failed the objective. It doesn't have to be real. The story only continues when you succeed. --- A Fallen Mascot <cite>Punished_Blinx posted [p:965787227] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>It's a Game Over because you failed the objective. It doesn't have to be real. The story only continues when you succeed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/13/22 6:41:50 PM #8:	Slayer_22 posted... Isaac likely was just hallucinating the entire event, man. Necros don't exist. Door is fine. Isaac is just having an episode. As for the game over, it's no different from a Time Paradox in MGS. Sure, you could logically continue the game, but the story would be outside the confines of what the game wants to tell. The Time Paradox in MGS3 was more of an Easter Egg you have to go out of your way to get and is a joke (which MGS is full of quirky 4th wall breaking jokes) It's not literal main plot events that make no sense. Naked Snake has no incentive to carve up Ocelot with a fork I don't think the comparison works. Dead Space is a horror game with 0 fun or jokes or quirk in them. The sequence is played straight and there is nothing else like it in the game. Hell in other halluncations thing attack/jump out at Isaac and they do no damage because they aren't real. Yet these enemies are real. Punished_Blinx posted... The story only continues when you succeed. Why doe? Nicole was never there. As I said unless there was a real physical person there and Isaac just imagined them as her --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:965787571] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>Slayer_22 posted... </cite> <quote>Isaac likely was just hallucinating the entire event, man. Necros don't exist. Door is fine. Isaac is just having an episode. As for the game over, it's no different from a Time Paradox in MGS. Sure, you could logically continue the game, but the story would be outside the confines of what the game wants to tell.</quote>The Time Paradox in MGS3 was more of an Easter Egg you have to go out of your way to get and is a joke (which MGS is full of quirky 4th wall breaking jokes) It's not literal main plot events that make no sense. Naked Snake has no incentive to carve up Ocelot with a fork I don't think the comparison works. Dead Space is a horror game with 0 fun or jokes or quirk in them. The sequence is played straight and there is nothing else like it in the game. Hell in other halluncations thing attack/jump out at Isaac and they do no damage because they aren't real. Yet these enemies are real. Punished_Blinx posted... </cite> <quote>The story only continues when you succeed.</quote> Why doe? Nicole was never there. As I said unless there was a real physical person there and Isaac just imagined them as her </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 06/13/22 6:45:47 PM #9:	Its like in fight club ~~some crazy dude beating himself up wouldnt start this crazy fight club.~~ --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:965787685] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>Its like in fight club some crazy dude beating himself up wouldnt start this crazy fight club. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NightMarishPie 06/13/22 6:46:46 PM #10:	This is an UR thread. --- "Who dares, wins" 3DS FC: 1521 3697 7272 <cite>NightMarishPie posted [p:965787715] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>This is an UR thread. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jiek_Fafn 06/13/22 6:48:26 PM #11:	Isaac mind breaks=game over --- I don't believe in belts. There should be no ranking system for toughness. <cite>Jiek_Fafn posted [p:965787773] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>Isaac mind breaks=game over </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSJKirby 06/13/22 6:48:48 PM #12:	I bet if that room had a security camera and you watched a recording, you'd see Isaac talking to no one, shooting and nothing and waiting for a door that's already open --- Not changing this signature until Beyond Good and Evil 2 is in my hand. August 25th, 2010. <cite>SSJKirby posted [p:965787789] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>I bet if that room had a security camera and you watched a recording, you'd see Isaac talking to no one, shooting and nothing and waiting for a door that's already open </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordMarshal 06/13/22 6:49:55 PM #13:	SSJKirby posted... I bet if that room had a security camera and you watched a recording, you'd see Isaac talking to no one, shooting and nothing and waiting for a door that's already open A metaphor for gamers.... --- There can be only one. <cite>LordMarshal posted [p:965787836] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>SSJKirby posted... </cite> <quote>I bet if that room had a security camera and you watched a recording, you'd see Isaac talking to no one, shooting and nothing and waiting for a door that's already open</quote> A metaphor for gamers.... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 06/16/22 3:06:49 AM #14:	NightMarishPie posted... This is an UR thread. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:965851773] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>NightMarishPie posted... </cite> <quote>This is an UR thread.</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/16/22 3:23:42 AM #15:	hockeybub89 posted... You're thinking too hard about Isaac being fucking insane and manipulated by the marker. Most of that scene is likely just not real. "Well actually it all just didn't happen but you still get game over because game." Ok then it's a shittily written plot and a badly designed game. That's the entire point. It's not reflected in the gameplay or story displayed in the entire rest of the game. It doesn't flow and it doesn't add up. There's a reason why there's no part of Pokemon where Ash pulls out an AK-47 and mows down several Jigglypuffs and then the game continues as if nothing happened and never explains it. And your "ACtually it just didn't happen!" is just as weak a gameplay explanation there. Compare to well written games like Silent Hill 2 or Spec Ops: The Line or This War of Mine or Hellblade which do similar things but do them coherantly in a well written way because they understand atmosphere, pacing, character, plot, narrative and how it feeds into gameplay. Deadspace is more like Agony or those hentai games you see on the dark pits of steam. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:965851926] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>You're thinking too hard about Isaac being fucking insane and manipulated by the marker. Most of that scene is likely just not real.</quote>"Well actually it all just didn't happen but you still get game over because game." Ok then it's a shittily written plot and a badly designed game. That's the entire point. It's not reflected in the gameplay or story displayed in the entire rest of the game. It doesn't flow and it doesn't add up. There's a reason why there's no part of Pokemon where Ash pulls out an AK-47 and mows down several Jigglypuffs and then the game continues as if nothing happened and never explains it. And your "ACtually it just didn't happen!" is just as weak a gameplay explanation there. Compare to well written games like Silent Hill 2 or Spec Ops: The Line or This War of Mine or Hellblade which do similar things but do them coherantly in a well written way because they understand atmosphere, pacing, character, plot, narrative and how it feeds into gameplay. Deadspace is more like Agony or those hentai games you see on the dark pits of steam. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 06/16/22 4:36:43 AM #16:	NightMarishPie posted... This is an UR thread. Yeah, it's the time of year he whines about the decade old game that has offended him somehow <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:965852510] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>NightMarishPie posted... </cite> <quote>This is an UR thread.</quote> Yeah, it's the time of year he whines about the decade old game that has offended him somehow </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 06/16/22 4:42:36 AM #17:	It's almost like it's a message board about video games But sure talking about video games on a message board about video games is weird Instead randomly insulting people that you're jealous of on a message board about video games is totally normal and rational. Makes perfect sense --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair! http://i.imgur.com/yPw05Ob.png <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:965852554] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>It's almost like it's a message board about video games But sure talking about video games on a message board about video games is weird Instead randomly insulting people that you're jealous of on a message board about video games is totally normal and rational. Makes perfect sense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 06/16/22 4:42:38 AM #18:	I would like to apologize. I saw this in the More topics from this board... thing and didn't realize I was bumping a 3-day old failed UR topic. --- http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif http://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:965852555] in This part ... [t:80056406]...</cite> <quote>I would like to apologize. I saw this in the More topics from this board... thing and didn't realize I was bumping a 3-day old failed UR topic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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