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Cleo_II 07/13/22 11:36:12 AM #1: |
The market is getting bad, at least in tech. People are getting laid off, offers are getting rescinded, and many companies fire you on the spot if you try and give a 2 week notice anyway to try and cut costs. So many people gave their job notice expecting to join a new company, only to have that offer taken away. Seems like we shouldnt give notice anymore. Just wait until the last day to say anything. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Umbreon 07/13/22 11:38:03 AM #2: |
Give the same respect you'd be given. If you're working for a company that tosses people out without notice? Yeah, fuck it. Don't even call. Just stop showing up and they'll figure it out. --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) 12-18-19 and 01-13-21: Times Donald Trump has officially been impeached. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cuttin_in_farm 07/13/22 11:41:17 AM #3: |
I always feel like I must be an absolute nobody because I never see or experience this. The employers Ive had tend to give advance notice of things, I feel. Maybe I just dont notice. I typically give notices for my peers sake, not the company though. But if offers are being rescinded, then no shot will I do a two weeks notice. --- A show of kindness may not do much help, but a show of cruelty may do much harm. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cleo_II 07/13/22 11:45:36 AM #4: |
cuttin_in_farm posted... I always feel like I must be an absolute nobody because I never see or experience this. The employers Ive had tend to give advance notice of things, I feel.Im a tech recruiter and my LinkedIn feed is nothing but posts about layoffs and offers getting rescinded. The tech market is going through some shit. https://www.businessinsider.com/job-offer-revoked-rescinded-economy-recession-coinbase-redfin-meta-tech-2022-6?amp ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ps2Twilight 07/13/22 11:48:17 AM #5: |
Largely depends on the field, tbh. I'm in the legal field and they usually don't fire you on the spot since they need people to cover cases, court days, etc. Last time I left a job, I gave them a month notice, but that mostly for the sake of my clients. --- http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i157/Arcana_photos/logo.gif http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i157/Arcana_photos/ps2twilight.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sexypwnstar 07/13/22 11:49:26 AM #6: |
Can't happen in my profession, it's a small world and every other hospital would know --- http://i.imgur.com/Su4g5.jpg http://i.imgur.com/21DiJ.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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theAteam 07/13/22 11:51:30 AM #7: |
Shit I gave a month notice on my last 2 jobs. They were both office jobs though so I just kind of fucked around and wrote a few documents to describe how to do my tasks. --- Buffalo Bills ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 07/13/22 11:52:11 AM #8: |
Instead of giving a 2 week notice I just took 3 weeks of vacation off from my job, and once I had started the other one I just quit the 1st while on vacay. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cleo_II 07/13/22 11:52:57 AM #9: |
Ps2Twilight posted... Largely depends on the field, tbh. I'm in the legal field and they usually don't fire you on the spot since they need people to cover cases, court days, etc. Last time I left a job, I gave them a month notice, but that mostly for the sake of my clients.At my last company, they started letting people go on the spot if they gave notice they were going to a competitor. People who had been there 10+ years too. Cutting off their healthcare and such. I dont know how my current company handles it but Im starting to want to leave and wonder what I should do. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cleo_II 07/13/22 11:56:47 AM #10: |
Also Im getting nervous. A lot of the big tech layoffs are impacting recruiters most. Were usually the first to go. Twitter laid off 30% of their recruiters last week. Netflix laid off a ton of them as did Unity and Niantic and a bunch of others. Were slowing down hiring at my company and my workload is so light now. They stealth cut 10% of our bonuses (for recruiting but not engineering). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Turtlebread 07/13/22 12:12:52 PM #11: |
I heard that you are less likely to get laid off if you dont have LinkedIn --- http://i.imgur.com/yCW15Zn.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrPrimemaster 07/13/22 12:14:59 PM #12: |
Cleo_II posted... At my last company, they started letting people go on the spot if they gave notice they were going to a competitor. People who had been there 10+ years too. Cutting off their healthcare and such. I dont know how my current company handles it but Im starting to want to leave and wonder what I should do. The competitor thing is weird because you dont want the security liability. But you should know thats going to happen before you do it. And like someone else said, 2 weeks is mostly a courtesy to my team and then a secondary courtesy to the company. --- Metroids Suck ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CreekCo 07/13/22 12:24:08 PM #14: |
Turtlebread posted... I heard that you are less likely to get laid off if you dont have LinkedIn Are you joking or being serious? --- It all returns to nothing It just keeps tumbling down, tumbling down, tumbling down. (NGE) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSuperSilver 07/13/22 12:25:30 PM #15: |
Not in my profession. I left my last job a couple months ago and has to put in a 3 week notice. --- Super Saiyan 3 Goku When it is obvious that the goals cannot be reached, don't adjust the goals, adjust the action steps. - Confucius ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 07/13/22 12:34:42 PM #16: |
CreekCo posted... Are you joking or being serious?Keeping an active linkedin profile heavily implies that you're in "greener pastures" mode. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DanicaPatrick 07/13/22 12:38:16 PM #17: |
Umbreon posted... Give the same respect you'd be given./topic --- Former #1 beard ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cleo_II 07/13/22 2:28:54 PM #18: |
Questionmarktarius posted... Keeping an active linkedin profile heavily implies that you're in "greener pastures" mode.Lol what no it doesnt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 07/13/22 2:36:42 PM #19: |
The reason you're seeing a large lay offs in some fields is because some of them "over hired" are just "correcting" themselves. I also work as a tax consultant for some of these tech companies and I've noticed their payroll expenses jumping up like crazy because of the "great resignation" that scared a lot of these companies. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cleo_II 07/13/22 2:44:19 PM #20: |
Prestoff posted... The reason you're seeing a large lay offs in some fields is because some of them "over hired" are just "correcting" themselves. I also work as a tax consultant for some of these tech companies and I've noticed their payroll expenses jumping up like crazy because of the "great resignation" that scared a lot of these companies.Yes well aware. Too many tech companies over hired and scaled too quickly. And now laying all those extra people off now that they are no longer needed. Its terrible how humans with lives and bills to pay are being treated. The lay offs are one thing but many are also pulling out their offers. Coinbase rescinded hundreds of them for example but if you go on Blind there are tons of stories from other companies doing the same. People who quit their jobs expecting to join new ones and already gave notice, suddenly scrambling and out of work. A lot of them on H1Bs and their visas depending on the job so if they cant find another one in time, they need to leave the country. Some fucked up stuff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 07/13/22 2:45:05 PM #21: |
The literal only reason I give out 2 weeks notices is because I've worked under bosses I at least respected. If that weren't the case then fuck no. They wouldn't give me 2 weeks to find another job --- I have nothing else to say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrDrMan 07/13/22 2:45:17 PM #22: |
Umbreon posted... Give the same respect you'd be given. This. Ive had jobs that were cool so I put in a notice. Also had jobs that screwed me so I literally just walked out. I always side with the employee because people dont walk out for no reason. --- Insert sig here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Axiom 07/13/22 2:46:37 PM #23: |
Only time a two week notice matters is when you plan to use someone higher up in the company as a reference ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 07/13/22 2:49:50 PM #25: |
Did you end up starting your own recruiting firm TC? I thought I remember you posting something about that several months ago --- Hello world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrDrMan 07/13/22 2:51:51 PM #26: |
Cleo_II posted... Lol what no it doesnt. Bro come on. Yes it does. Thats like saying youre on Tinder to make friends. Nobody is buying that. Lets call a spade a spade. --- Insert sig here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 07/13/22 2:52:39 PM #27: |
Cleo_II posted... Yes well aware. Too many tech companies over hired and scaled too quickly. And now laying all those extra people off now that they are no longer needed. Its terrible how humans with lives and bills to pay are being treated. The lay offs are one thing but many are also pulling out their offers. Coinbase rescinded hundreds of them for example but if you go on Blind there are tons of stories from other companies doing the same. People who quit their jobs expecting to join new ones and already gave notice, suddenly scrambling and out of work. A lot of them on H1Bs and their visas depending on the job so if they cant find another one in time, they need to leave the country. Some fucked up stuff. I honestly think it should be illegal for people's offers to get rescinded when they're offered a job already. I still think a 2 week notice is a good practice, for like someone said to get a good reference/referral, but yeah if this is the new trend I say get rid of the 2 week notice because it becomes detriment to the workers. --- DI MOLTO! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GBH713 07/13/22 2:54:19 PM #28: |
I assume most of the people in this topic are American. In your contracts if employment, is it stated that you're to give notice of you're looking to leave, but your employer isn't obligated to do so if they're firing you? And I don't mean getting fired because of gross misconduct or something like that. And is that typical across all sectors and all levels of seniority? --- GBH ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrDrMan 07/13/22 2:54:44 PM #29: |
Prestoff posted... I honestly think it should be illegal for people's offers to get rescinded when they're offered a job already. I still think a 2 week notice is a good practice, for like someone said to get a good reference/referral, but yeah if this is the new trend I say get rid of the 2 week notice because it becomes detriment to the workers. How would they make it illegal? The inverse happens too. People accept jobs and then change their mind. --- Insert sig here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrDrMan 07/13/22 2:55:49 PM #30: |
GBH713 posted... I assume most of the people in this topic are American. In your contracts if employment, is it stated that you're to give notice of you're looking to leave, but your employer isn't obligated to do so if they're firing you? And I don't mean getting fired because of gross misconduct or something like that. And is that typical across all sectors and all levels of seniority? In a lot of states employment is at will which means your employment can be terminated at any time for any reason. Things like discrimination dont fall under that but damn near anything else you can be fired on the spot. As far as I know you cant be punished for not giving a notice. Some jobs do have non-compete agreements though. --- Insert sig here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 07/13/22 2:57:01 PM #31: |
GBH713 posted... I assume most of the people in this topic are American. In your contracts if employment, is it stated that you're to give notice of you're looking to leave, but your employer isn't obligated to do so if they're firing you? And I don't mean getting fired because of gross misconduct or something like that. And is that typical across all sectors and all levels of seniority? Most the time layoffs happen the people get a severance package, their job is gone but they still get a few weeks or more of paychecks. Unless the company really goes to shit, then you get no severance package. --- Hello world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cleo_II 07/13/22 3:41:23 PM #32: |
AngelsNAirwav3s posted... Did you end up starting your own recruiting firm TC? I thought I remember you posting something about that several months agoNo. The market is giving me pause. Im going to see what it looks like next year. If companies are laying off internal recruiters, they sure as hell arent going to outsource MrDrMan posted... Bro come on. Yes it does. Thats like saying youre on Tinder to make friends. Nobody is buying that.Sure bud ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 07/13/22 3:49:10 PM #33: |
I haven't had any professional job where I'd feel comfortable not giving a two weeks notice. I'd need time to hand down my work and responsibilities. Of course, it's possible I could just work in a way where I always have things documented and ready for someone to be able to easily take something over...but still. I'd at least need a few days to pass on some level of information. I have my last job a months notice. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FL81 07/13/22 3:51:13 PM #34: |
The 2-week notice is more of a courtesy than anything else during my time in the workforce I've seen just as many people walk out or just not show up --- Thanks to Proofpyros for the sig images https://i.imgur.com/Nv4Pi1v.jpg https://i.imgur.com/N43HJYv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrDrMan 07/13/22 4:02:05 PM #36: |
Cleo_II posted... No. The market is giving me pause. Im going to see what it looks like next year. If companies are laying off internal recruiters, they sure as hell arent going to outsource If you had a point youd just make it but you clearly dont. --- Insert sig here ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cleo_II 07/13/22 4:21:44 PM #37: |
Damn Microsoft laying off hundreds now. And reports that Meta is forcing managers to put a certain percent of their teams as poor performers to start managing folks out. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WingsOfGood 07/13/22 4:22:29 PM #38: |
that is what anti-work been saying since 2020 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OudeGeuze 07/13/22 4:27:19 PM #39: |
Heres how my last 4 employees quit on me: Three gave a two week notice Of the three, one worked all two weeks, one skipped their last 2 bar shifts citing a family emergency yet was posting pics on IG of them getting day drunk at a bar, and one not only worked two weeks but also worked an additional month helping train my new brewers The one that didn't give a notice quit on the spot after I had a meeting with him and the rest of my brewers about why production was low and why accounts were constantly hitting me up about not getting kegs or receiving wrong kegs (said brewer was responsible for the above and quit after I approached him about it with the rest of the brew team) In short, I don't expect shit from a two week notice. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Priere 07/13/22 4:29:21 PM #40: |
If the job is shit and they dont treat you like a person and you have no intention of coming back. Fuck em. If you are moving on to greener pastures and they were always good to you, i would personally give them more so you can always have a fallback if things dont work out. --- https://imgur.com/iQep35u https://i.imgur.com/PmX8smn.gif https://i.imgur.com/mwTy0iF.gif https://i.imgur.com/FCER80e.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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--Zero- 07/13/22 4:31:17 PM #41: |
2 week notices shouldnt be a thing, but its a way to keep the employer in power if youre depending on their recommendation. If you got the new job lined up then yeah fuck the current employer lol --- This used to be a worthy sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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emblem-man 07/13/22 4:34:26 PM #42: |
Cleo_II posted... Damn Microsoft laying off hundreds now. And reports that Meta is forcing managers to put a certain percent of their teams as poor performers to start managing folks out. Damn. I know MS has a ton of employees, but still, that's a lot. --- http://avatar.xboxlive.com/avatar/emblem%20boy/avatar-body.png haters gonna hate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cleo_II 07/13/22 5:03:34 PM #43: |
emblem-man posted... Damn. I know MS has a ton of employees, but still, that's a lot.Yeah about 1% of their workforce of 180,000. Which is still about 1,800 people being laid off. Terrible ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MrWingnut 07/13/22 5:06:08 PM #44: |
2 week notices have always been stupid. Most employers won't hesitate to treat you like shit, so why do them the courtesy of letting them know you're leaving? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SauI_Goodman 07/13/22 5:09:21 PM #46: |
If you ever need to come back it will be in your favor to put in 2 weeks. --- Italian, French, German. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Makeveli_lives 07/13/22 5:11:17 PM #47: |
Cleo_II posted... Also Im getting nervous. A lot of the big tech layoffs are impacting recruiters most. Were usually the first to go. Twitter laid off 30% of their recruiters last week. Netflix laid off a ton of them as did Unity and Niantic and a bunch of others. Were slowing down hiring at my company and my workload is so light now. They stealth cut 10% of our bonuses (for recruiting but not engineering). Twitter stock prices got screwed by Elon fucking around. Netflix lost millions of subscribers. Niantic hasnt had a hit since Pokmon Go and it remains their only long term viable project. --- Switch FC: SW-3917-4425-6106 PSN: PiKappaPhi769 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 07/13/22 5:12:04 PM #48: |
Hey TC I remember your old topic from a few months back are you still going through with your venture? --- XBL: Mrpicardbottoms PSN: Bosh369 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Valjackal 07/13/22 5:16:58 PM #49: |
Aa a manager, I would obviously prefer as much notice as an employee is able to give. That being said, if an employee is being treated like shit by an employer, I could understand the sentiment of leaving without notice. It is a courtesy, after all. I would then say not to put that employer down as a reference however. --- Remember...remember us. Remember...that we once lived... The artist (formerly?) known as Citrik ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheGoldenEel 07/13/22 5:23:42 PM #50: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] The tech market seems really hot near me still as well, but its based more on local companies and the less volatile (right now) medical technology sector also no offense to TC but I really dont understand why the recruiting industry is such a huge thing anyway. I dont get what value they add; they just seem like the landlords of the jobs world. Just taking a cut of the pay and not actually doing anything. Its especially obnoxious how for example I have an Amazon recruiter reach out to me at least once a month even though recently failed their coding challenge and am still in the six-month window where Im not eligible to take it again. for the job I currently have, I had an interview with a recruiter about an hour before my first interview here, the job he had in mind for me was this one. I told him yeah I have that interview in an hour I found it on indeed, thanks for nothing. Dodged a bullet too because theres no recruiter taking a cut of my salary --- BLACK LIVES MATTER Games: http://backloggery.com/wrldindstries302 \\ Music: http://www.last.fm/user/DrMorberg/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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