Board 8 > What do you believe happens after you die?

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which one ?

Just nothing. Never again anything ever.

the same as the last topic

Hopefully something better than what we can make up.

Hopefully something, but theres no real reason to believe there is anything. Mostly hope theres something because if not all the lives cut down so early are even more tragic.

heaven or hell but it's a guilty gear fight

I don't have particular logical reason to think that there's anything- on the "bright" side, though, I think dying's a lot more sad for the people left behind than the person who's dead. I do think it's pretty logical to think that, in the absence of anything else, "ceasing to exist" precludes "caring about <x situation>".

Sometimes I really do wish I believed there were something though. Existence being finite is pretty disturbing for some reason that I can't fully explain (a fundamental drive to keep from dying, maybe?).

You get shot back into the oneness of the universe and lose all sense of self returning to your rightful place as a singular entity encapsulating all of space and time

We are the cosmos dreaming of itself

i used to be 100% on the 'nothing' train, but i think i have to tweak that a little bit.

i have trouble articulating this correctly, so please bear with me. i'll give it a shot with the best metaphor i can muster

i view brains, humans, animals, and life in general as slides on a projector, and "all of us"- that subjective experience- collectively as the whiteboard being projected upon

in the sense that, when one slide is swapped out for another, the whiteboard doesn't remember what used to be projected on it. there's also nothing that says those slides need to be projected in order, or can be only projected once

from that perspective, we have to really be specific about what "i" am when asking what happens when "i" die

there's obviously no literal projector or literal whiteboard. hopefully what i'm saying is clear even if it might be silly

from one perspective, the answer to the original question is "nothing"- the brain and its collective set of memories experiences nothing after death. from another perspective, the answer to the original question is "the same as its always been, and death doesn't change a thing"

the answer depends on whether you identify more with the slide or the whiteboard

banananor posted...

i used to be 100% on the 'nothing' train, but i think i have to tweak that a little bit.

i have trouble articulating this correctly, so please bear with me. i'll give it a shot with the best metaphor i can muster

i view brains, humans, animals, and life in general as slides on a projector, and "all of us"- that subjective experience- collectively as the whiteboard being projected upon

in the sense that, when one slide is swapped out for another, the whiteboard doesn't remember what used to be projected on it. there's also nothing that says those slides need to be projected in order, or can be only projected once

from that perspective, we have to really be specific about what "i" am when asking what happens when "i" die

there's obviously no literal projector or literal whiteboard. hopefully what i'm saying is clear even if it might be silly

from one perspective, the answer to the original question is "nothing"- the brain and its collective set of memories experiences nothing after death. from another perspective, the answer to the original question is "the same as its always been, and death doesn't change a thing"

the answer depends on whether you identify more with the slide or the whiteboard

yes, a lot of this was influenced by my consumption of science fiction

What the literal fuck did I just read?

when I die I become a whiteboard

banananor posted...

yes, a lot of this was influenced by my consumption of science fiction

Is that what the kids are calling it these days

banananor posted...

i used to be 100% on the 'nothing' train, but i think i have to tweak that a little bit.

i have trouble articulating this correctly, so please bear with me. i'll give it a shot with the best metaphor i can muster

i view brains, humans, animals, and life in general as slides on a projector, and "all of us"- that subjective experience- collectively as the whiteboard being projected upon

in the sense that, when one slide is swapped out for another, the whiteboard doesn't remember what used to be projected on it. there's also nothing that says those slides need to be projected in order, or can be only projected once

from that perspective, we have to really be specific about what "i" am when asking what happens when "i" die

there's obviously no literal projector or literal whiteboard. hopefully what i'm saying is clear even if it might be silly

from one perspective, the answer to the original question is "nothing"- the brain and its collective set of memories experiences nothing after death. from another perspective, the answer to the original question is "the same as its always been, and death doesn't change a thing"

the answer depends on whether you identify more with the slide or the whiteboard

yes, a lot of this was influenced by my consumption of science fiction

Even in this scenario the net result is the same, when you die the stream of consciousness that is "you" comes to an end. Even if some semblance of you could exist again it has lost all thoughts and memories that are the core essential thing that defines you as you.

MZero posted...

Is that what the kids are calling it these days

what do you believe?

in any case, watch any tv show about artificial intelligence or consciousness transferral and then get back to me! something as mainstream as westworld or altered carbon works. even more on the nose would be "severance"

i'd recommend some books, but nobody reads books on recommendation

We wake up from the Matrix.

Your body dies, your "soul" lives
And apprantly it doens't need a functioning brain to have thoughts
So your "soul" will exist forever in a void, thinking about the life you had and you will be tormeneted for eternity

ChichiriMuyo posted...

Even in this scenario the net result is the same, when you die the stream of consciousness that is "you" comes to an end. Even if some semblance of you could exist again it has lost all thoughts and memories that are the core essential thing that defines you as you.

yep, i agree with that. and that's what makes alzhimer's so scary- you lose what defines you without technically being dead

banananor posted...

the answer to the original question is "nothing"- the brain and its collective set of memories experiences nothing after death

and that sucks. if i had the chance to be granted eternal youth, i would absolutely take it

Nanis23 posted...

Your body dies, your "soul" lives
And apprantly it doens't need a functioning brain to have thoughts
So your "soul" will exist forever in a void, thinking about the life you had and you will be tormeneted for eternity

no joke, that concept was the scariest thing in the world to me when i was a kid

what kind of thought processes would your soul have? would it be baby thoughts, kid thoughts, adult thoughts, drunk thoughts, alzhimer's thoughts, cat thoughts, orangutan thoughts, mosquito thoughts? what happens when your soul's thoughts conflict with what your brain thinks while you're alive?