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MacArrowny
08/03/22 2:17:08 AM
#203:


I believe new classes like that get unlocked by getting more CP, and it can take quite a while, as in it takes more CP to unlock a class than it does to master one going from 1 to 10. You probably just haven't fought enough battles for the progress to be visible yet.

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SHINE_GET_64
08/03/22 2:25:26 AM
#204:


Go dunk on a unique monster around your level and finish it with a chain attack to speed up the process

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dilateDChemist
08/03/22 4:52:08 AM
#205:


Consul B seems impossible to beat at Lv 25 Hard Mode.

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skullbone
08/03/22 4:55:00 AM
#206:


I'm 5 hours into this game and feeling pretty good so far. Been trying to keep out of this topic to avoid even hints of spoilers. But I must say that I was SHOCKED to find out (battle spoilers for 5 hours into the game) that you could switch characters during combat! Finally some more strategy comes to these games!

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LordoftheMorons
08/03/22 5:12:56 AM
#207:


dilateDChemist posted...
Consul B seems impossible to beat at Lv 25 Hard Mode.
I failed this at level 22 in normal mode tempted to just use my bonus xp and retry (or alternatively I guess I could switch to mastered classes, but Id rather get whatever CP he awards)

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SwiftyDC
08/03/22 5:54:39 AM
#208:


Woo!! I beat him!

Leveled my guys to Lv 26 via Camp and set my party to 3x Medic Gunner, 2x Heavy Guard, and Noah as Flash Fencer.

Heavily relied on healing my party thru Chain Attacks. Almost died a few times with him binding my healers (which annoyed the shit out of me so hard). Luck was definitely involved. That was rough.

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LordoftheMorons
08/03/22 6:12:11 AM
#209:


SwiftyDC posted...
Woo!! I beat him!

Leveled my guys to Lv 26 via Camp and set my party to 3x Medic Gunner, 2x Heavy Guard, and Noah as Flash Fencer.

Heavily relied on healing my party thru Chain Attacks. Almost died a few times with him binding my healers (which annoyed the shit out of me so hard). Luck was definitely involved. That was rough.
I just beat him as well. Im not sure, but it kinda seemed like he might have had a reflect mechanic or something? I think I was doing something wrong while fighting him, in any case. Every once in a while he just almost murdered everyone with that purple circle attack.

Edit: Actually I looked it up and I was wrong. The actual relevant mechanic is that when he chains your healers you're apparently supposed to swap to them and button mash to free them more quickly. Probably never would have figured that one out!

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Thorn
08/03/22 9:41:39 AM
#210:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I failed this at level 22 in normal mode tempted to just use my bonus xp and retry (or alternatively I guess I could switch to mastered classes, but Id rather get whatever CP he awards)
It took me a bunch of retries at Level 22 but I managed to get him eventually. Probably would have been a lot simpler to use BEXP or change to mastered classes like you said but I'm stubborn.

I definitely don't have the greatest handle on the battle system yet trying to juggle when to Chain Attack, Interlink, etc.

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HanOfTheNekos
08/03/22 9:42:57 AM
#211:


Interlink feels like something I do if I'm desperate to survive, my controlled character's partner is close to going down, or I got it to level 3.

And yeah, Chain Attack I haven't quite yet figured out the key to getting more orders in it? For awhile I was getting 3 max but I've started to get 4 by using less people per order, so idk

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Thorn
08/03/22 9:46:32 AM
#212:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
And yeah, Chain Attack I haven't quite yet figured out the key to getting more orders in it? For awhile I was getting 3 max but I've started to get 4 by using less people per order, so idk
I don't know if it changes later but every time you use a main party member's order it depletes the Chain Gauge by 1/3 and it ends if it empties so that's why it was 3 max.

But Hero Unit Orders don't deplete the gauge so if you work them in it can go to 4.

And yeah, I've been using Interlink as a desperation measure myself, for me or if I notice my partner member is in trouble.

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LordoftheMorons
08/03/22 9:46:34 AM
#213:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
And yeah, Chain Attack I haven't quite yet figured out the key to getting more orders in it? For awhile I was getting 3 max but I've started to get 4 by using less people per order, so idk
Heroes don't towards the limit

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SHINE_GET_64
08/03/22 9:47:58 AM
#214:


Enel already has a video for chain attacks if you want to understand them. You'll be doing 17 million damage in no time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGjwUBILsC0

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HanOfTheNekos
08/03/22 9:48:48 AM
#215:


Ah, "Chain Gauge", a thing I haven't noticed.

I will say that the game has issues with screen overload, particularly when it comes to the brightness of aoe zones. There are times when I can't find myself on screen.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/03/22 10:07:27 AM
#216:


I did a Chain Gauge last night with 4 chains + 2 Ouroborous orders that reached x1217 damage.

It was incredible.

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dilateDChemist
08/03/22 2:46:40 PM
#217:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I just beat him as well. Im not sure, but it kinda seemed like he might have had a reflect mechanic or something? I think I was doing something wrong while fighting him, in any case. Every once in a while he just almost murdered everyone with that purple circle attack.

Edit: Actually I looked it up and I was wrong. The actual relevant mechanic is that when he chains your healers you're apparently supposed to swap to them and button mash to free them more quickly. Probably never would have figured that one out!

I control the healer role and trying to break out of it didnt work at all. Took the same amount of time trying to wiggle out of than not doing anything.

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dilateDChemist
08/03/22 2:48:33 PM
#218:


I do feel like Interlink is kind of underwhelming, atleast early on. Especially the heals. I just let the CPU do Interlinks. And getting to Lv 3 takes forever.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/03/22 2:49:38 PM
#219:


Interlink initially is weak as hell but as you use the ability tree and unlock the additional mechanics it expands dramatically.

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Xiahou_Shake
08/03/22 3:20:55 PM
#220:


Interlink is giving me big Nioh 2 Yokai Shift vibes where it starts out as a form you only use as utility in niche scenarios but can end up being really strong as you gradually unlock its stuff.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/03/22 3:22:46 PM
#221:


The only real flaw with the interlink level system I can see is, unless there's part of this I'm missing, is it's going to heavily insentivize adding only your lowest charge time artes to your bar.

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MacArrowny
08/03/22 4:55:03 PM
#222:


I feel like this game has the same problem XB2 did (though to a lesser extent) where the cutscenes are just too slow. People talk unnaturally slowly, and there are lots of needless pauses while they speak too. It's better with the Japanese voices, but still not really ideal. It'd be nice if the dialogue were sped up, or if you could just manually advance it.

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SwiftyDC
08/03/22 5:11:43 PM
#223:


I feel the opposite. The cutscenes feel "real" to me, I guess. Like realistic. I like to think the characters pause cause they're thinking before they speak.

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HanOfTheNekos
08/03/22 8:40:05 PM
#224:


Perilwing Ryuho

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UshiromiyaEva
08/03/22 9:09:30 PM
#225:


The mechanic sodering noises at camps sound so much like the crackle of blown out speakers that it's giving me anxiety about mine. I just bought this thing!

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TheRock1525
08/04/22 4:53:08 AM
#226:


So what's everyone's classes so far? I'm in chapter 3 still.

Noah - Guardian Commander
Mio - Thaumaturge
Eunie - Flash Fencer
Taion - Full Metal Jaguar
Lanz - War Medic
Sena - Swordfighter
Hero - Zeon

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LordoftheMorons
08/04/22 5:35:02 AM
#227:


I'm just swapping classes whenever someone reaches rank 10 (sometimes holding off a bit if it would screw up my party composition)

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TheRock1525
08/04/22 5:35:54 AM
#228:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I'm just swapping classes whenever someone reaches rank 10 (sometimes holding off a bit if it would screw up my party composition)

Oh I've leveled up a bunch of different classes, too. This is just my plan for when I progress the main story and other sidequests.

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dilateDChemist
08/04/22 1:17:56 PM
#229:


LordoftheMorons posted...
I'm just swapping classes whenever someone reaches rank 10 (sometimes holding off a bit if it would screw up my party composition)

Same. Still in Chapter 3 myself. Each character has only gotten 3 classes to Lv 10 each.


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UshiromiyaEva
08/04/22 1:21:52 PM
#230:


A heads up if you're approaching ether cap, most only give 3 charges, but some randomly give you up to 10. Wouldn't recommend grabbing a fountain unless you're at 89 or under.

Also it doesn't tell you when you've reached Nopon Coin cap from what I can see, so keep an eye on that!

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HanOfTheNekos
08/04/22 1:23:48 PM
#231:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
A heads up if you're approaching ether cap, most only give 3 charges, but some randomly give you up to 10. Wouldn't recommend grabbing a fountain unless you're at 89 or under.

Also it doesn't tell you when you've reached Nopon Coin cap from what I can see, so keep an eye on that!

It does. It starts showing them being auto sold

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UshiromiyaEva
08/04/22 1:25:05 PM
#232:


Ah, didn't realize you COULD sell them. I'd rather it just stay on the field and not let you pick it up.

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dilateDChemist
08/04/22 1:48:54 PM
#233:


Just met up with Revolver Ocelot dude. Bad ass moves.

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dilateDChemist
08/04/22 1:49:45 PM
#234:


Ive already capped out on Silver Nopon coins and they auto sell.

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_stingers_
08/04/22 2:01:39 PM
#235:


When can you use nopon coins? I just finished the first hero quest

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UshiromiyaEva
08/04/22 2:05:03 PM
#236:


_stingers_ posted...
When can you use nopon coins? I just finished the first hero quest

Once you get access to the enormous desert area, there's a cave right around the middle of it you can go through to get to the merchant. That's the only one so far I've found, they sell some pretty powerful accessories at the higher costs. 99 gold coins, which I'm getting close to, nets you an accessory that let's the equipee revive people even if they're not a healer.

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MacArrowny
08/04/22 2:07:19 PM
#237:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
A heads up if you're approaching ether cap, most only give 3 charges, but some randomly give you up to 10. Wouldn't recommend grabbing a fountain unless you're at 89 or under
Ether fountains restore over time so it doesn't matter

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_stingers_
08/04/22 2:14:28 PM
#238:


UshiromiyaEva posted...
Once you get access to the enormous desert area, there's a cave right around the middle of it you can go through to get to the merchant. That's the only one so far I've found, they sell some pretty powerful accessories at the higher costs. 99 gold coins, which I'm getting close to, nets you an accessory that let's the equipee revive people even if they're not a healer.
That seems kind of underpowered for 99 gold coins. I'd rather get a max cost gem then that. Maybe if you wanted to run a team with no healers on it it could be useful though

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UshiromiyaEva
08/04/22 2:18:58 PM
#239:


I don't think there's anyway to buy gems? I think it's crafting only.

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_stingers_
08/04/22 2:19:48 PM
#240:


I haven't actually tried it but under gems there's always two options one for crafting and one for with coins. I assumed they were gold coins

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TheManaSword
08/04/22 2:20:31 PM
#241:


Yeah you can purchase gems with gold nopon coins. They're very pricey though.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/04/22 2:27:02 PM
#242:


Ohhh right, I haven't used Nopon coins for alternative methods so didn't think about it.

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GuessMyUserName
08/04/22 2:32:48 PM
#243:


game finally came in last night and beated chapter 1

it's not the XB1 intro nor does the BGM kick as much as XB2's Argentum but I like the meetup and everything after, party's cool from the jump

lmao vandham

walking into Kilmarris Highland now and here we gooo Gaur Plains / Gormott comparison zoneee

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GuessMyUserName
08/04/22 2:35:50 PM
#244:


hear that noah, ladz brought somethin' a bit meatier

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dilateDChemist
08/04/22 2:36:54 PM
#245:


Following footsteps in this game is buggy.

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UshiromiyaEva
08/04/22 2:43:11 PM
#246:


*Snake throws up items*

"Check ou' wha it voms!"

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MacArrowny
08/04/22 2:54:47 PM
#247:


What's the best Gem to buy once you do get to 99 Gold Nopon Coins?

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SHINE_GET_64
08/04/22 2:57:29 PM
#248:


I would guess Empowered Combo. That's a gem you want on any attacking class along with Steelcleaver and Analyze Weakness

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MacArrowny
08/04/22 2:58:41 PM
#249:


Does the AI make good use of Empowered Combo?

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HanOfTheNekos
08/04/22 3:06:15 PM
#250:


dilateDChemist posted...
Following footsteps in this game is buggy.
It might be meant to be like it is? Only follow for a short distance, then have to find the next set based on trajectory?

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08/04/22 3:12:07 PM
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mnkboy907
08/04/22 3:15:19 PM
#252:


I guess the easiest way to check would be to refight a UM and see if you get more coins.

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