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gamepimp12
08/07/22 12:22:12 AM
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Basically she got mad I bought concert tickets for us without asking if she was free that day, or even if she wanted to go and she felt like I just volunteered her time.

In my defense I told her I was buying the tickets 5 days before I bought them and she never tried to stop me.

on the bright side im a lot more aware of the flow of our arguments and i avoided reacting to things I would have reacted to in the past.

However its extremely concerning its hardly no changes in the way she communicates.

That was like a giant red flag.

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DarkChozoGhost
08/07/22 12:23:24 AM
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You should really just stop talking to her.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 12:28:03 AM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
You should really just stop talking to her.

Honestly after that conversation Ive been seriously considering.

She has like -100 conflict resolution skills, and then im always the bad guy because I react and stop pulling metaphorical punches.

I guess because I know her well enough to know that she thinks Im reading her mind at times. She thinks I can actually read her mind.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 1:46:50 AM
#4:


Bump

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Despised
08/07/22 1:48:58 AM
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Nothing is worth being in a toxic relationship, its brutal when youre in it, probably brutal when it ends, but once youre clear of it its worlds better

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AlCalavicci
08/07/22 1:50:14 AM
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gamepimp12 posted...
In my defense I told her I was buying the tickets 5 days before I bought them and she never tried to stop me.

Sounds like you were in the right

Take someone else to the concert then

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 2:05:33 AM
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Despised posted...
Nothing is worth being in a toxic relationship, its brutal when youre in it, probably brutal when it ends, but once youre clear of it its worlds better

i wouldnt even really call us toxic, shes just such a poor communicator that any disagreement we have is drawn out and made worse. I basically always have to keep my composure otherwise

well I guess thats toxic.

AlCalavicci posted...
Sounds like you were in the right

Take someone else to the concert then

the funny thing is I already accounted for her understandably being busy that day and bought the insurance for the tickets. I also assumed from the jump Id be going with someone else.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 4:21:29 PM
#8:


Bump

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Lost_All_Senses
08/07/22 4:26:28 PM
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Seeing no direct response as a "yes" is on you. You're blaming her for not being direct when this problem could of been solved by the same exact thing from you that you're blaming her for.

Neither of you can be direct and it's gonna cause this to keep happening. Especially as Im watching you take zero responsibility for it.

You're judging her communication skills when you could of just as easily told her in any of those 5 days or better yet before "I need a definitive answer or Ill just buy the tickets for us".

God damn, Im glad I got good at being unapologetically direct with people >_>

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KINDERFELD
08/07/22 4:42:08 PM
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I recently started dating a year after my divorce and the dude I'm talking to does the same thing that you did with the concert tickets.

He'll mention things briefly in a fleeting conversation and I would not respond thinking its just him airing his thoughts.
Then days later I'm being accused of standing him up for dinner or making him waste his money on something he thinks we both agreed to.
Its pretty annoying as it seems as if he doesn't respect my time and is functioning in a different recently to mine.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 4:53:19 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Seeing no direct response as a "yes" is on you. You're blaming her for not being direct when this problem could of been solved by the same exact thing from you that you're blaming her for.

Neither of you can be direct and it's gonna cause this to keep happening. Especially as Im watching you take zero responsibility for it.

You're judging her communication skills when you could of just as easily told her in any of those 5 days or better yet before "I need a definitive answer or Ill just buy the tickets for us".

God damn, Im glad I got good at being unapologetically direct with people >_>


no I literally said I was buying tickets and that the show is ____ day. She didnt say she felt I was scheduling out her day for her untill after I bought the tickets.

i was literally as direct as I possibly could be. She has a very childish habit where instead of saying no, or giving me any bad news she intentionally says nothing, factor that in with the fact she is a very busy woman with a lot going on.

it was always easier to buy the tickets now and figure it out latter, which is what I was prepared to do.


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AngelsNAirwav3s
08/07/22 4:57:39 PM
#12:


Just drop her, you will feel infinitely better. Relationships are not supposed to be this hard.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 4:57:56 PM
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KINDERFELD posted...
I recently started dating a year after my divorce and the dude I'm talking to does the same thing that you did with the concert tickets.

He'll mention things briefly in a fleeting conversation and I would not respond thinking its just him airing his thoughts.
Then days later I'm being accused of standing him up for dinner or making him waste his money on something he thinks we both agreed to.
Its pretty annoying as it seems as if he doesn't respect my time and is functioning in a different recently to mine.

thats a little different than what i did. I took the initiative on a time sensitive subject. I wouldnt hold it against her for not being able to go. What Im upset about is she knew prior to me buying the tickets that she likely couldnt go and instead of saying something she lets me buy them, and then gets mad at for me scheduling out her day.


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DoctorPiranha3
08/07/22 4:58:54 PM
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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...
Just drop her, you will feel infinitely better. Relationships are not supposed to be this hard.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/07/22 5:02:30 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
no I literally said I was buying tickets and that the show is ____ day. She didnt say she felt I was scheduling out her day for her untill after I bought the tickets.

i was literally as direct as I possibly could be. She has a very childish habit where instead of saying no, or giving me any bad news she intentionally says nothing, factor that in with the fact she is a very busy woman with a lot going on.

it was always easier to buy the tickets now and figure it out latter, which is what I was prepared to do.

Was she trying to figure out if she could get a day off in those 5 days between and then couldn't?

Anyway, with one side, Id probably never make a definitely assumption. But you're the one here giving your side, so it's not like I can reason with her or try to understand her side.

My thing just for my own sake is to try to not pass off blame and just work on fixing my end, because it's way easier than trying to change someone else. And if I feel I have to compromise too much to make that happen, I obviously shouldn't be with them. Don't stay in a relationship where spite is growing because neither can compromise.

Most people I explain my side to and compromise with usually end up being super cool with me back. I think regardless of what side of the relationship and regardless of if it's true or not, both people are gonna feel like they're doing more than the other. Cause most people pay more attention to what they do for others than what others do for them. Even if you do pay attention to them in some capacity, you're not in their head and seeing all the smaller battles they give up. As they are also not seeing the little battles you give up. So these smaller battles we can only see when we give up, make us feel like we're doing more overall.

I dunno man. Your relationship sounds annoying. But I have very little insight.

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SamsungGearS2
08/07/22 5:03:09 PM
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My mother was like that, and the day I moved out was the second-best day of my life, right behind the day she died. No more drama, no more of her projecting her bull crap on me.

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NoxObscuras
08/07/22 5:03:57 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
no I literally said I was buying tickets and that the show is ____ day. She didnt say she felt I was scheduling out her day for her untill after I bought the tickets.

i was literally as direct as I possibly could be. She has a very childish habit where instead of saying no, or giving me any bad news she intentionally says nothing, factor that in with the fact she is a very busy woman with a lot going on.

it was always easier to buy the tickets now and figure it out latter, which is what I was prepared to do.
Honestly the only part that seems weird to me is that you're telling her, rather than asking. Why not phrase it as a question "Hey, I was thinking we could go to this concert on ___ day. Do you want to go? If so, I'll buy the tickets now." If she ignores that, then don't buy the tickets, or make those plans with someone else. If she gets mad that you're not going with her, then that's on her, because you offered and she didn't give you an answer.

That said, if she has a habit of not answering, it seems like this problem is going to keep happening. I don't know the history you have with her, but I don't know... might be easier to just find someone else.

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KINDERFELD
08/07/22 5:04:49 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
thats a little different than what i did. I took the initiative on a time sensitive subject. I wouldnt hold it against her for not being able to go. What Im upset about is she knew prior to me buying the tickets that she likely couldnt go and instead of saying something she lets me buy them, and then gets mad at for me scheduling out her day.

Sounds like poor communication on your part. Same thing I deal with, with my guy. He does mention these activities he wants us to do, but somewhere in his head, he made it clear that these are the plans and that I've agreed to them. Then because its a nice gesture, I'm somehow a terrible person for not going along with it, in spite of not being made aware that these plans were concrete.

There should have at least been another conversation before you purchased the tickets, letting her know that this is what you intended to do, and would like to confirm her agreement on it.

But that never happens because you're such a nice guy and she is just horrible and disagrees with everything and starts arguments, right?

Maybe try having some respect for her and her time and quit pushing your intentions on her.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/07/22 5:07:29 PM
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SamsungGearS2 posted...
My mother was like that, and the day I moved out was the second-best day of my life, right behind the day she died. No more drama, no more of her projecting her bull crap on me.

Without more context, this makes you look extremely petty >_>. But I have a feeling it's just because this was only the tip of the iceberg in your relationship. You don't gotta go into it, Im just saying if you casually throw that out there without proper context, it might not get the best responses.

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Guide
08/07/22 5:07:32 PM
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I told you in the last topic how this would happen again a month later.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 5:24:21 PM
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KINDERFELD posted...
Sounds like poor communication on your part. Same thing I deal with, with my guy. He does mention these activities he wants us to do, but somewhere in his head, he made it clear that these are the plans and that I've agreed to them. Then because its a nice gesture, I'm somehow a terrible person for not going along with it, in spite of not being made aware that these plans were concrete.

There should have at least been another conversation before you purchased the tickets, letting her know that this is what you intended to do, and would like to confirm her agreement on it.

But that never happens because you're such a nice guy and she is just horrible and disagrees with everything and starts arguments, right?

Maybe try having some respect for her and her time and quit pushing your intentions on her.


youre really kind of projecting yourself on to the situation, just a little weird honestly.

I said I was buying the tickets, asked her again about it the following day and then bought the tickets after I didnt get any response for 5 days

i never said she had to go, or that she was a shitty person for not being able to go ?

stop projecting

NoxObscuras posted...
Honestly the only part that seems weird to me is that you're telling her, rather than asking. Why not phrase it as a question "Hey, I was thinking we could go to this concert on ___ day. Do you want to go? If so, I'll buy the tickets now." If she ignores that, then don't buy the tickets, or make those plans with someone else. If she gets mad that you're not going with her, then that's on her, because you offered and she didn't give you an answer.

That said, if she has a habit of not answering, it seems like this problem is going to keep happening. I don't know the history you have with her, but I don't know... might be easier to just find someone else.

I typically always move in an assertive kind of way, Im always bringing her food or giving her money for food, Im always buying things she mentions she likes etc etc etc so of course I would buy tickets to a show two months in advance without asking.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 5:25:19 PM
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Guide posted...
I told you in the last topic how this would happen again a month later.

I honestly thought she would be more self aware now, but shes clearly not. I feel like I should take a step back again.

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SamsungGearS2
08/07/22 5:25:43 PM
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Lost_All_Senses posted...
Without more context, this makes you look extremely petty >_>. But I have a feeling it's just because this was only the tip of the iceberg in your relationship. You don't gotta go into it, Im just saying if you casually throw that out there without proper context, it might not get the best responses.
I wont air my dirty laundry on this subject, but r/RaisedByNarcissists is a good place to get an idea of what my NMom was like, she was a greedy, obstinate, spiteful, ungrateful and cruel shit stain on society and the economy.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/07/22 5:45:58 PM
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SamsungGearS2 posted...
I wont air my dirty laundry on this subject, but r/RaisedByNarcissists is a good place to get an idea of what my NMom was like, she was a greedy, obstinate, spiteful, ungrateful and cruel shit stain on society and the economy.

Yeah. I know the type. I wouldn't seek out more insight, but I know some people be going through it. It's such a fucked up disadvantage when your own parents didn't even protect you or attempt to. There's still some type of personal responsibility people have to eventually take, but having really shitty parent/s was always one I felt should afford people more breathing space. Those are the people who responsible for molding you and preparing you for everything after 18. How can you not feel crippled later on when they did the exact opposite.

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KINDERFELD
08/07/22 8:14:46 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
youre really kind of projecting yourself on to the situation, just a little weird honestly.

I said I was buying the tickets, asked her again about it the following day and then bought the tickets after I didnt get any response for 5 days

i never said she had to go, or that she was a shitty person for not being able to go ?

stop projecting

I typically always move in an assertive kind of way, Im always bringing her food or giving her money for food, Im always buying things she mentions she likes etc etc etc so of course I would buy tickets to a show two months in advance without asking.

Quite telling that her reaction was a huge red flag for you and that you assumed no responsibility in the entire situation.

Very telling.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/07/22 8:16:35 PM
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Whoever has me blocked is showing up in a lot of topics right after my posts >_>.

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Robot2600
08/07/22 8:17:50 PM
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you fucking asshole how dare you buy those fucking concert tickets

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Guide
08/07/22 8:20:42 PM
#28:


Lost_All_Senses posted...
Whoever has me blocked is showing up in a lot of topics right after my posts >_>.

KINDERFIELD, I think? Is he the crazy one that blocks people at random? He has those sort of unstable posts.

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Lost_All_Senses
08/07/22 8:26:24 PM
#29:


Guide posted...
KINDERFIELD, I think? Is he the crazy one that blocks people at random? He has those sort of unstable posts.

Oh. I don't remember who that is. He probably blocked me forever ago and it's just relevant now because of this coincidence. Appreciate the insight. Not gonna lie, there's a split second my mind wastes on wondering what the posts I can't see are about.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 9:32:00 PM
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KINDERFELD posted...
Quite telling that her reaction was a huge red flag for you and that you assumed no responsibility in the entire situation.

Very telling.


when did I say that ? Stop being weird.

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KINDERFELD
08/07/22 9:55:50 PM
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gamepimp12 posted...
Basically she got mad I bought concert tickets for us without asking if she was free that day, or even if she wanted to go and she felt like I just volunteered her time.

In my defense I told her I was buying the tickets 5 days before I bought them and she never tried to stop me.

on the bright side im a lot more aware of the flow of our arguments and i avoided reacting to things I would have reacted to in the past.

However its extremely concerning its hardly no changes in the way she communicates.

That was like a giant red flag.


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CommonStar
08/07/22 10:03:45 PM
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You guys are both terrible at communication.
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KINDERFELD
08/07/22 10:04:14 PM
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^
Thank you.

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BeantownHero
08/07/22 10:09:35 PM
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This relationship sounds absolutely dreadful holy fuck

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NoxObscuras
08/07/22 10:17:31 PM
#37:


gamepimp12 posted...
youre really kind of projecting yourself on to the situation, just a little weird honestly.

I said I was buying the tickets, asked her again about it the following day and then bought the tickets after I didnt get any response for 5 days

i never said she had to go, or that she was a shitty person for not being able to go ?

stop projecting

I typically always move in an assertive kind of way, Im always bringing her food or giving her money for food, Im always buying things she mentions she likes etc etc etc so of course I would buy tickets to a show two months in advance without asking.
Well you being "assertive" clearly isn't the way to approach things with her if this is a common occurrence. If you guys have gotten into arguments about this before, why handle it the same way?

gamepimp12 posted...
it was always easier to buy the tickets now and figure it out latter, which is what I was prepared to do.
And that's why she's mad. You're saying it's all on her, but there's a breakdown of communication on your end too. Your solution shouldn't be to "buy the tickets now and figure it out later" when she doesn't give you an immediate yes. It probably makes her feel like you're trying to use guilt to force her to go. "You're not going? I already bought the tickets!"

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08/07/22 10:19:24 PM
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I think TC enjoys this kind of behavior. She cucks you all the time from your previous topics. You should have stayed away the moment she declined to have sex with you. Stop buying her things and feeling entitled to her affection because you spend money on her. Move on bro.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 10:40:05 PM
#39:


NoxObscuras posted...
Well you being "assertive" clearly isn't the way to approach things with her if this is a common occurrence. If you guys have gotten into arguments about this before, why handle it the same way?

And that's why she's mad. You're saying it's all on her, but there's a breakdown of communication on your end too. Your solution shouldn't be to "buy the tickets now and figure it out later" when she doesn't give you an immediate yes. It probably makes her feel like you're trying to use guilt to force her to go. "You're not going? I already bought the tickets!"


Her not saying something to me making plans isnt a common occurrence. Her not saying anything whenever she means no or has bad news is a common occurrence.

and it wasnt she didnt give me an immediate yes, she didnt say anything for 4 days despite me asking again the next day and the day of The show.

and because I was proactive and bought the tickets the day of worst case scenario I made 300 dollars.

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Big_Nabendu
08/07/22 10:47:12 PM
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How's her ass?

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 10:53:14 PM
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--Zero- posted...
I think TC enjoys this kind of behavior. She cucks you all the time from your previous topics. You should have stayed away the moment she declined to have sex with you. Stop buying her things and feeling entitled to her affection because you spend money on her. Move on bro.

I dont enjoy it at all. Its probably my fault for only using this to vent, but we do have alot in common and typically always have a good time together, she makes me laugh all the time. Shes frequently wears my clothing, drives hours to see and were pretty affectionate.

we just consistently have, communication break downs about our expectations with each and while theyre getting better its still the biggest issue between us.

Shes tying to figure out what she wants in life, in pretty much every aspect, which is fine I knew that from the jump, my issue is that sometimes these things come not only directly at my expense (which sucks but Is to be expected at times) but are done in ways that are pretty not necessarily cruel, but harsh I guess, and I dont think its intentional but Im not gonna just let it happen and not say anything.


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Swagger_Dagger
08/07/22 10:57:10 PM
#42:


TC will never admit that the girl will never be into him in the way he is into her.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 11:00:44 PM
#43:


KINDERFELD posted...
Quite telling that her reaction was a huge red flag for you and that you assumed no responsibility in the entire situation.

Very telling.


see no, yeah you assumed that I never actually said that i wasnt at fault, I just never mentioned that part of the issue because we resolved it rather quickly. I basically said that while Im always going to be assertive in situations like that I do need to be more cognizant of her schedule, and the time that she needs not only for herself but her responsibilities. I can buy the tickets and still do a better job expressing its something she can do and not something she has to do.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 11:08:54 PM
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Swagger_Dagger posted...
TC will never admit that the girl will never be into him in the way he is into her.

Nah, ive pretty much accepted that I could be perfect and it wouldnt matter.

until she feels like shes found herself our relationships wont be much more than it is now.

Like we miiiight have sex, but it would likely be a one off thing.

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 11:10:16 PM
#46:


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the one that drives 2 hours to see me and wears my clothes and tells me how good I am to her

yeah her

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gamepimp12
08/07/22 11:15:05 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]



no it wasnt, just providing context, I dont think its unreasonable to call someone you go on dates with who wears hoodies and jackets and tshirts all on social media your ex for sake of simplicity
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okay.

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AvlButtslam
08/07/22 11:25:06 PM
#50:


What concert was it?

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