Current Events > Confirm/Deny: 'I don't want politics in video games' = 'I don't like gays/trans'

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A webcomic from 2007? Yawn, sounds boring.

easy there grampa yer gonna pull somethin

What other early ought bangers are you going to pull out?

Are you about to put on a wizard cap and cape?

Maybe quote some "all your base"?

D for sure, what a dumb topic

It can also mean women or people of color

Lots of people were shitting on Stray for having *any* amount of plot that wouldnt concern a cat, because it ruined the point of the immersion of, yknow, being a fucking cat.

But youre already way off into your circlejerk here, dont let me stop you.

I thought my life sucked, but it's got to be miserable to need to shut off reality so hard that games having human words is too triggering.

I do value the escapism aspect but again, I want the game to last above all. I don't want a slow, sterile walk through a hallway while I am told how the devs are feeling about contemporary issues that might become dated quickly. I don't want to be punished for replaying a game like that with the same unskippable segment subjected to the law of diminishing returns. Something like New Vegas is fine because I'm very happy with the gameplay and the decision making comes at you fast. It's gritty, brown, violent and has a very small soundtrack but also there's questions for each run. What build? What goals? North, north-east or east? Rational human being or all-purpose Cazador puncher? I am only very slightly impeded by things like talking to Doc Mitchell at the start, watching the Securitron upgrade on a House/Yes-Man run and even the crashes are manageable since you're back in and playing again so fast.

Thats some impressive reading comprehension you have to get human words bad out of cat game treating you like a human is immersion-breaking.

I don't get the point

It's probably because I was born without an imagination.

Lots of people were shitting on Stray for having *any* amount of plot that wouldnt concern a cat, because it ruined the point of the immersion of, yknow, being a fucking cat.

But youre already way off into your circlejerk here, dont let me stop you.

What plot could a game even have that would solely concern a cat though? Chasing birds and hacking up hairballs?

Seems pretty obvious to me that a game that's gonna be played by humans would have a story meant for humans, and playing as a stray cat was the vehicle for plot delivery and the hook to catch people's attention

Did you not play (or watch someone play) Untitled Goose Game?

There are ways to make an (animal) walking simulator more exciting with fetch quests and collectathons that dont involve humans actually trying to converse with you as if a language barrier didnt exist.

UGG had a notepad that showed your objectives, but its not like the goose itself pulled it out and started using its wings to write with a pencil. That was just a UI design. Everything else was communicated in picture speech bubbles, and none of that entailed the goose actually understanding or responding to the people.

Its all about making a consistent narrative. If youre going to make the cat understand humans speech after all, establish that within the story, or dont claim that the cat was ever meant to be realistic.

Who claimed Stray was a realistic simulation of a cat in our society?

Also I keep seeing people bringing up how Bioshock is political.

How is anyone supposed to know it's political when it's about blindly following some man's instructions on the other side of a walkie-talkie while you walk through dark cavernous buildings while people scream and you light people on fire?

The only thing I grasped was it that it was a supposed perfect society gone wrong.

The most popular video game franchise of all time beats you over the head with political commentary.

...Pokemon?

...Pokemon?

Is this your lack of imagination talking?

It doesnt need to be realistic in our society. But if youre going to do post-apocalyptic cyberpunk, you still expect animals to behave like animals, unless otherwise established. The cat isnt given NANOMACHINES or anything that would suddenly allow for human understanding or comprehension. Its a cat, until suddenly its not.

Did you not play (or watch someone play) Untitled Goose Game?

I don't think it needs to be that analyzed. It doesn't need to be established. Just interpret however you want. We aren't the cat. We're controlling a cat who may or may not be who is being addressed by lines of dialog. I don't think the cat necessarily knows much more than a regular cat.

I did, but I fail to see what that has to do with anything. UGG wasn't supposed to be a narrative experience the same way that Stray was. There's no real "plot" to UGG, the point is to just be a shithead and get into funny situations.

The point of Stray wasn't to be immersed in the day to day life of a cat. It had a story to tell and everyone knew that about it going into it

Seems pretty obvious to me that a game that's gonna be played by humans would have a story meant for humans, and playing as a stray cat was the vehicle for plot delivery and the hook to catch people's attention

People never complained about politics in Metal Gear Solid when Kojima ranted at you incoherantly about his political views for 18 hours staight every game.

You played one Sony game in your life and somehow misinterpreted it as a social lecture. Not my fault

Also, I don't play modern games so it isn't a huge issue for me, but Deny.

For example, I saw someone replacing the pride flag with American Flags in a game mod. If I played whatever game that was, I'd get a mod that just removed the flag, personally. And it isn't just a Gay/Trans thing, I would also get it to remove Black Lives Matter flags, Trump flags, Thin Blue Line flags, Let's go Brandon flags, or any other political flag that might have been in the game.

The exception would be if it were in a historical setting, like Wolfenstein for example.. Then, I would expect a lot of Nazi flags.

Is the cat more evolved or less evolved than the one in red dwarf

Would you also download a mod to remove grass?

Pride flags aren't political. Would you also download a mod to remove grass?

Pride flags aren't political. Would you also download a mod to remove grass?

Lots of people bringing up Rand, but you don't even need that. The how and why of the setting, the big players and what they started and caused, are already clearly politically related themes.

For example, I saw someone replacing the pride flag with American Flags in a game mod. If I played whatever game that was, I'd get a mod that just removed the flag, personally. And it isn't just a Gay/Trans thing, I would also get it to remove Black Lives Matter flags, Trump flags, Thin Blue Line flags, Let's go Brandon flags, or any other political flag that might have been in the game.

The exception would be if it were in a historical setting, like Wolfenstein for example.. Then, I would expect a lot of Nazi flags.

I saw someone replacing the pride flag with American Flags in a game mod. If I played whatever game that was, I'd get a mod that just removed the flag, personally.

I don't remember seeing people complain that Papers, Please - a game very much about life under an authoritarian corrupt political system - was "too political" or "shoving politics down the player's throat."