Current Events > RE6 was too actiony but some how 4 and 5 wasn't?

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In 4 Leon ran from multiple giant boulders, from a giant statue and did somersault flips to dodge lasers all while looking like a boss.

In 5 Chris literally punched a boulder.

But some how in RE6 it was too much over the top action? Yeah ok.

RE4 had good balance still, and It was definitely a issue in RE5, but it at least had consistency, lmao. RE6 though was a cluster fuck.

After weskors son and Chris campaign I couldn't even will myself to finish the other 2.

Prismsblade posted...

RE4 had good balance still

A good balance of over the top action?

I wish 6 let you skip cinematic interjections.
That might have been a game changer. There'd still be stuff like waiting for Chris' team to deal with the anti air guns which'd be out of your hands but still, a big improvement.

RE6 is forgotten.

6 is just Resident Evil being completely honest about what it is for once.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I wish 6 let you skip cinematic interjections.

The option is located on the game's main menu under Options > Game Settings > Auto Action Button. It should be on by default. I've only played on Professional difficulty and noticed it was on for me. The official description reads "enables automatic support for timing-based and rapid button quick time events, for a more comfortable gameplay experience."

I thought 4 and 5 was too actiony

VeggetaX posted...

The option is located on the game's main menu under Options > Game Settings > Auto Action Button. It should be on by default. I've only played on Professional difficulty and noticed it was on for me. The official description reads "enables automatic support for timing-based and rapid button quick time events, for a more comfortable gameplay experience."

No I don't mean QTEs or dodge prompts, I mean when your character stops, the camera pans over and makes you watch some zombies enter the area or some other circumstance altering event take place. QTEs I don't mind, being made to constantly stop and watch unremarkable things happen is horrible for the replay value.

The gun shop in Leon's chapter 1 is a bad one. It's the one I usually set pro difficulty Agent Hunt up on and it is fun but after a few laps, being made to watch the same short cutscenes gets extremely old extremely fast. 5 had this down. You could even get the jump sometimes by pressing start and resuming moving while the enemies were still further away/spawning in.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

No I don't mean QTEs or dodge prompts, I mean when your character stops, the camera pans over and makes you watch some zombies enter the area or some other circumstance altering event take place. QTEs I don't mind, being made to constantly stop and watch unremarkable things happen is horrible for the replay value.

The gun shop in Leon's chapter 1 is a bad one. It's the one I usually set pro difficulty Agent Hunt up on and it is fun but after a few laps, being made to watch the same short cutscenes gets extremely old extremely fast. 5 had this down. You could even get the jump sometimes by pressing start and resuming moving while the enemies were still further away/spawning in.

Are you absolutely sure they didn't have these in 4 and 5?

VeggetaX posted...

Are you absolutely sure they didn't have these in 4 and 5?

They're in there but not nearly as many.
5 makes you watch Irving go from swimming around to grabbing the ship, Uroboros has a few phase changes. If you're playing 1 player you could count bits where you're waiting for Sheva/Ashley to go open something but at least they'll let you move or reload for a second. With 4 I really can't think of many times the game just takes your fun away. I'm happy to replay 4 and 5 because they're brief, infrequent and it's usually right back to something good.

6 will beat you over the head with them until you don't want to play. Which is why I now stick to mercs. All gameplay. Usually MTD because outside of the boss spawncamping you by starting its gas attack while you're mid counter, it's a lot of fun.

6 is trash

6 sold really well and is a lot of fun

6 is one of the worst games ever made

I love 6. But Im over talking about it. Im just happy to see more appreciation for it online than there was 10 years ago.

The contrast between all the internet hating it and all my friends loving it was weird. But now other people here defend it and usually say how I also feel about it.

It's a game you'll love if you can appreciate a game for being a game.

piers was the best new character
jake was the worst new character
it was sherry's story she should have gotten top billing

Lost_All_Senses posted...

The contrast between all the internet hating it and all my friends loving it was weird. But now other people here defend it and usually say how I also feel about it.

hate for it was always the vocal minority opinion
its the second highest grossing RE game

yusiko posted...

hate for it was always the vocal minority opinion

sadly that's not true. I've been to many other video game websights, YT comments, reddit posts and they all mostly say the same dumb shit about it, including this one; "its too over the top!".

Lost_All_Senses posted...

I love 6. But Im over talking about it. Im just happy to see more appreciation for it online than there was 10 years ago.

The contrast between all the internet hating it and all my friends loving it was weird. But now other people here defend it and usually say how I also feel about it.

It's a game you'll love if you can appreciate a game for being a game.

Lots get their opinions from something akin to CinemaSins or journalists. It's as simple as It's not horror so the gameplay must be bad to them. Or perhaps that's so egregious to them the gameplay doesn't matter at all to them.
7 takes all the gameplay and replay value away but it's praised simply for presenting itself as a horror game. That's just the game industry for you at this point though.

yusiko posted...

hate for it was always the vocal minority opinion
its the second highest grossing RE game

I remember a time it felt like me against the world here on CE when defending it. I think there was one other person who would pop up and it might of been you. We gonna really pretend the internet never hates on stuff that's popular everywhere else? >_>.

I usually don't have much trust in my memories, but how much I love RE6s gameplay made it really stick in my brain when I was here trying to convince everyone it was one the best action games ever with a deeper moveset than any other TPS.

This isn't really that important of me to convince others of tho. The more important thing is that more people are backing it now online and that's what's up. Hell, it could of just been that they didn't feel like interjecting, because of how annoying the backlash was to deal with. I constantly questioned why I cared so much to try to convince others myself.

I personally don't care to convince others to like what I like. I just like to point out the dumb shit people reach to use to justify their hate.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

Lots get their opinions from something akin to CinemaSins or journalists. It's as simple as It's not horror so the gameplay must be bad to them. Or perhaps that's so egregious to them the gameplay doesn't matter at all to them.
7 takes all the gameplay and replay value away but it's praised simply for presenting itself as a horror game. That's just the game industry for you at this point though.

I loved 7, but was really sad I never seen how they would keep pushing the action genre to it's limits. I personally believe to this day that mechanically no other TPS has topped RE6's moveset and gave you as many options as to how you could deal with enemies.

VeggetaX posted...

I personally don't care to convince others to like what I like. I just like to point out the dumb shit people reach to use to justify their hate.

You seem to care more about convincing people RE4 isn't good lol. Which is the biggest game of my teen years. Bigger than San Andreas. And I was a hip hop head. San Andreas was made for me.

ive liked every RE game ive played and ive played all of them except 7 and 8 and those WII on the rail shooter games

i bought all the switch versions of the games when they were on sale recently
fun fact the switch is the only version of RE6 that lets you change characters costumes in campaign mode
other versions only let you change costumes in mercenaries mode (steam might be like switch im not sure)

Lost_All_Senses posted...

I loved 7, but was really sad I never seen how they would keep pushing the action genre to it's limits. I personally believe to this day that mechanically no other TPS has topped RE6's moveset and gave you as many options as to how you could deal with enemies.

I'll agree on 6 giving you options, they've practically got the grounded part of a Devil May Cry moveset on hand but with counter attacks thrown in. The stun rod felt kind of underwhelming compared to 5's where it was really strong and had some nice range though. It'd be nice if it was easier to tell whether an enemy is going to give you a regular grapple melee or a coup de grace too.

The enemies are mostly where some of my problems come from, the green lizard thing spawning auto-hit gas on you while you're occupied with an animation, Bloodshots lunging while you're in a similarly helpless situation, the zombie dog counter always felt inconsistent to me but I have seen videos of people getting it a lot so it's probably just me. With bosses it feels like they stop taking damage to initiate more of the obnoxious phase changes. For the longest time I really wasn't sure what was and wasn't working against HAOS and it was always hard to tell how much of the plane crash Ustanak fight could be left to the AI and how much needed to be me.

7 though I think that game straight up sucks compared to what came before. That was either made for or successfully cultivated an audience of shallow hype worshippers who will buy anything that their favorite streamer walked to the end of or anything with any buzz behind it. Somehow having gameplay wrestled away, having to slowly shimmy through narrow gaps where you can admire the wood graphics, walking back and forth seeing which crank fits in the opening on the wall, the legendary playable character equivalent to accidentally drinking spoiled milk that is Ethan Winters and being made to watch cutscenes are the appeal at this point to the majority. What are you even supposed to say at this point?

Lost_All_Senses posted...

You seem to care more about convincing people RE4 isn't good lol. Which is the biggest game of my teen years. Bigger than San Andreas. And I was a hip hop head. San Andreas was made for me.

RE4 is a great game for sure. Loads of fun but when people start saying it's the best game in the world that's when I gotta be that guy.

Lost_All_Senses posted...

I love 6. But Im over talking about it. Im just happy to see more appreciation for it online than there was 10 years ago.

The contrast between all the internet hating it and all my friends loving it was weird. But now other people here defend it and usually say how I also feel about it.

It's a game you'll love if you can appreciate a game for being a game.

My friend and I also liked it. (At least enough to buy it twice. Once on 360 on release and again on the PS4). We liked it a bit more than 5 actually since as goofy as RE6's story was it at least had really good controls with the dive, quick shot, and counter attack mechanics.

ViewtifulJoe posted...

I wish 6 let you skip cinematic interjections.

Yeah, that's what made it to action-y and bogs the whole game down.

jake muller looks cool, has a voice actor im a fan of, looks great with his shirt off
i should like him but i just cant stand him.

part of it might be because i hate that every other cutscene has sherry lose her competence to have to be rescued in some way by jake even though her wolverine healing should actually make her the more effective of the 2

i feel its a cheap way to hype up his character at the expense of hers
its lazy
the same thing happened to rebecca in 0 with billy
and to claire in code veronica with steve

6s system feels so weak. Like guns feel soft and the melee attacks are slower with less oomf to them. More so theres no upgrading shit ans the last difficulty removes skille.

4 and 5 had action set pieces but the gameplay was still relatively grounded and slow paced. 6 upped the action in the minute to minute gameplay significantly. It also upped the set piece action. If you squint hard enough 4 and 5 are still horror games. 6 is not.

I hated 5 when it first came out but i love it now. I was always meh with 6. 6 is just ok.

Lairen posted...

6s system feels so weak. Like guns feel soft and the melee attacks are slower with less oomf to them. More so theres no upgrading shit ans the last difficulty removes skille.

there are skills that raise your melee damage and your weapon damage as well as offer a variety of other effects
plus with the counter system once you get the timing right you have a melee attack that insta kills an enemy most of the time
and the skill system has upgrades

While you could argue that 4 and 5 had too much action, its hard to argue that they had as much or more overall than 6. 6 was more or less non-stop. The others had parts that were over the top but also parts that were slower paced.

Also, 4 and 5 were good games overall, whereas 6 was shit, so its going to get more negative reactions.

6 was a great coop experience, 5 is my favorite coop over all but I had tons of fun with 6

6 is way too fuckin' long.

4 > 5 > 6, but none of them are actively bad.

In 6 you can flip dodge, jump backwards, roll on the ground while aiming and shit. If that isn't more actiony than 4 and 5s static tank controls than I don't know.

6 was bad for entirely different reasons lol.

RE 2 Remake and RE7 are the RE games I'd prefer to play at this point.

I played RE7 100% in VR and it was a real pants-shitter, let me tell you.

People complained about it in 5 too but it gets forgiven nowadays.

Kimberly posted...

6 was bad for entirely different reasons lol.

I've heard them all and they're mostly reaches

RE6 might have the worst HUD I've ever seen.

TC have you even played RE4, 5, and 6?

If so then you wouldn't have made such a dung topic

VeggetaX posted...

I've heard them all and they're mostly reaches

Elaborate

4 is the best game of all-time.

I liked the mode in 6 where you could invade as an enemy.

RE6's combat was all about comboing melee attacks into that quick shot thing for finisher attacks. What do you mean?

specialkid8 posted...

Elaborate

It was too clunky
It was too actiony
It had too many QTEs
It was too over the top
Skill mechanics ruined the game
Bad inventory system
Bosses were bullet sponges
It just plain sucked

Am I missing anything else you guys thought it was a bad game? Because all of those applies to the majority of the RE games and yet RE6 gets the most hate.

AtelierGaming86 posted...

TC have you even played RE4, 5, and 6?

If so then you wouldn't have made such a dung topic

Played and finished them all multiple times. I'm sure you have a great justified reason why you think RE6 is awful.