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FaultyCircuitry
09/07/22 8:16:40 PM
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https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1567566630971916288

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dioxxys
09/07/22 8:19:54 PM
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Its not even expensive either, sexual health is important
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Dreepapult
09/07/22 8:20:13 PM
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That's a bit hyperbolic isn't it?

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gunplagirl
09/07/22 8:20:57 PM
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It isn't even an exaggeration in the title, either. The reasoning the judge gave for the ruling is telling and fucking horrifying.

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FaultyCircuitry
09/07/22 8:21:04 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
That's a bit hyperbolic isn't it?

not at all

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gunplagirl
09/07/22 8:23:20 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
That's a bit hyperbolic isn't it?
The reason for the denial is purely for the sake of discrimination against LGBT people who have historically been killed off in huge numbers by AIDS. So no. Only someone completely jaded or ignorant of the AIDS crisis would ever think this is an exaggeration when the goal IS EXACTLY THE SAME as when it happened decades ago. And it's not even like it is long ago, the AIDS crisis was going on until I was in elementary school. I'm 31.

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CyricZ
09/07/22 8:25:51 PM
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If I read correctly, there can be a refusal based on religious reasons.

Religious reasons. To not provide healthcare.

To allow LGBT people to contract a life-threatening illness. Because of religious reasons.

There is only one reason to do this.

Dreepapult posted...
That's a bit hyperbolic isn't it?
It is not, and I ask you stop talking.

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TheGoldenEel
09/07/22 8:27:46 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
That's a bit hyperbolic isn't it?
i think this user has earned a tag at this point

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voldothegr8
09/07/22 8:29:41 PM
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Religion was a mistake

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The_Korey
09/07/22 8:30:27 PM
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Dunno what PrEP is but if the idea is to spread HIV among just the LGBTs this is fucking stupid. Heteros are going to have sex with Bisexuals, whether they know it or not, so you're just fucking it up for everyone. Idiots.

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CyricZ
09/07/22 8:33:28 PM
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The_Korey posted...
you're just fucking it up for everyone
"Acceptable losses", they would say.

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ScazarMeltex
09/07/22 8:33:35 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
That's a bit hyperbolic isn't it?
Not at all. Especially once you understand that the Reagan admin's policies towards AIDS were also a genocide.

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Ikzai
09/07/22 8:34:21 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
That's a bit hyperbolic isn't it?

may I ask what possibly went through your head when posting this?

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ZMythos
09/07/22 8:34:33 PM
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The_Korey posted...
Dunno what PrEP is but if the idea is to spread HIV among just the LGBTs this is fucking stupid. Heteros are going to have sex with Bisexuals, whether they know it or not, so you're just fucking it up for everyone. Idiots.
If a car crash kills one straight person and one gay person, bigots will celebrate that it killed one gay person.

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DespondentDeity
09/07/22 8:35:32 PM
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The_Korey posted...
Dunno what PrEP is but if the idea is to spread HIV among just the LGBTs this is fucking stupid. Heteros are going to have sex with Bisexuals, whether they know it or not, so you're just fucking it up for everyone. Idiots.

Thatll be those heteros own fault for not vetting to ensure their sex partner was a cishet white Christian. Sucks to suck in the ethnostate.

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gunplagirl
09/07/22 8:36:23 PM
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The_Korey posted...
Dunno what PrEP is but if the idea is to spread HIV among just the LGBTs this is fucking stupid. Heteros are going to have sex with Bisexuals, whether they know it or not, so you're just fucking it up for everyone. Idiots.
Keep in mind that any unintended victims of these bigoted rulings are acceptable losses to them.

Anti trans policies that affect cis women, like how butch lesbians got beat up by men due to bathroom laws, or the cis girls being accused of being trans and having to see a doctor to verify their sex at birth? That's acceptable to bigots if it hurts trans people.

Extreme protections for the police leading to straight up incompetence resulting in the deaths of unarmed people who have surrendered? The far right will insist the person should have not resisted when it's a person of color killed. When it's a white guy they usually ignore the case entirely.

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Robot2600
09/07/22 8:36:38 PM
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gunplagirl posted...
The reason for the denial is purely for the sake of discrimination against LGBT people who have historically been killed off in huge numbers by AIDS. So no. Only someone completely jaded or ignorant of the AIDS crisis would ever think this is an exaggeration when the goal IS EXACTLY THE SAME as when it happened decades ago. And it's not even like it is long ago, the AIDS crisis was going on until I was in elementary school. I'm 31.


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Questionmarktarius
09/07/22 8:38:21 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
That's a bit hyperbolic isn't it?
You are aware this is CE, right?

Also, as is also CE tradition, there's already a thread about this: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80156897
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CyricZ
09/07/22 8:38:51 PM
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Also...

The_Korey posted...
Dunno what PrEP is

Stands for "pre-exposure prophylaxis". Which is kind of a general term, but it's a common term to refer to Truvada, Descovy, or Apretude, all drugs that are taken to prevent contraction of HIV.

https://www.cdc.gov/hiv/basics/prep.html

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MrMallard
09/07/22 8:45:26 PM
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I feel like the topic title and the associated tweet is gonna get people laughing this all off as no big deal, because a random twitter user used extreme terms in explaining what happened with this court case. Lots of semantics over whether this is genocide or not, which I think is the wrong direction for this to be going in.

Because regardless of the sentiment, I don't think it's controversial to say that blocking PrEP is both a bad move and needlessly cruel. This decision should see backlash against it.

If you take PrEP, you cannot receive or transmit HIV. This drug neuters a lifelong autoimmune disease and makes it harmless for as long as the drug is effective in the body. It has medical use, and it has recreational use. After thousands of queer people died of AIDS 30 years ago, we are now at a point where the disease's spread is actively preventable.

So before this topic gets infested with mouthbreathers who just want to gawk and derail things because someone compared this needless drug restriction to genocide, I want to ask a question to anyone thinking of commenting along those lines.

Literally what excuse is there for PrEP to be taken off of people's insurance?

Like I just want to point out, this is going to primarily affect people who already have HIV for the rest of their lives. Without PrEP being on insurance, people with HIV will have to shell out hundreds of dollars for this drug that makes them non-contagious. This is on top of the federal reserve saying that the only way that the economy will survive is if a majority of the country's population have less money.

So forget the genocide part, because I know that's what people are going to hone in on to criticize. Why is this outcome, restricting anti-HIV drugs by making it illegal for insurance to cover it, a good thing? Or even remotely justifiable?

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Questionmarktarius
09/07/22 8:48:37 PM
#21:


MrMallard posted...
making it illegal for insurance to cover it
where are you getting that?
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Umbreon
09/07/22 8:49:03 PM
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Dreepapult posted...
That's a bit hyperbolic isn't it?

Nah. It starts with this(Well not "start" to be honest).

Nazis didn't begin their genocide of Jewish people by putting them in gas chambers. The process began with more subtle methods.

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CyricZ
09/07/22 8:50:03 PM
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MrMallard posted...
making it illegal for insurance to cover it
This is inaccurate. It makes it legal to refuse it, though.

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ScazarMeltex
09/07/22 8:50:41 PM
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MrMallard posted...
So forget the genocide part, because I know that's what people are going to hone in on to criticize. Why is this outcome, restricting anti-HIV drugs by making it illegal for insurance to cover it, a good thing? Or even remotely justifiable?
Because they hate the LGBTQ community for existing and want to punish them.

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Kim_Seong-a
09/07/22 8:52:26 PM
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Even if you're a hateful shitstain who despises LGBT people with every fiber of your being, anything that benefits insurance companies should be an absolute no-go. Bleed those fuckers dry. Every fucking cent.

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IShall_Run_Amok
09/07/22 8:53:42 PM
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The judge should be imprisomed for the rest of their life.

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gunplagirl
09/07/22 8:54:25 PM
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Umbreon posted...
Nah. It starts with this(Well not "start" to be honest).

Nazis didn't begin their genocide of Jewish people by putting them in gas chambers. The process began with more subtle methods.
Yep. It's why I've been saying for years "don't give them an inch" while an unfortunately high number of cis people gladly passed policies like bathroom bans, sports bans, genital checks, and defended people like Dave Chappelle or JK Rowling or at the very least were willing to overlook all the bigotry if they got something out of it. It's not that I'm crazy or have some victim complex, it's that I have a functional brain and can see issues and have an understanding from multiple instances just in the past century that things never are just a one-off occurrence. They always build towards worse things.

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MrMallard
09/07/22 8:57:27 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
where are you getting that?

CyricZ posted...
This is inaccurate. It makes it legal to refuse it, though.
Apologies, another topic title caught me off-guard and I misunderstood.

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Turtlemayor333
09/07/22 8:59:24 PM
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U.S. ruling class just loves the scam of tying health insurance to employment so they can pull this nonsense

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gunplagirl
09/07/22 9:00:59 PM
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Turtlemayor333 posted...
U.S. ruling class just loves the scam of tying health insurance to employment so they can pull this nonsense
Even if it was given to everyone, if the Republican party is in control they would get control over these policies from whatever relevant department they get to lead. It's stupid as fuck to let the elected president also fill all of those key government positions and especially the heads of departments like agriculture or health and human services.

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TheGoldenEel
09/07/22 9:01:20 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
You are aware this is CE, right?

Also, as is also CE tradition, there's already a thread about this: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80156897
To be clear, this is a policy that is explicitly aimed at killing a minority group (LGBT people)

it is literally the textbook definition of genocide

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CyricZ
09/07/22 9:17:00 PM
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Ozarhok posted...
I'd take LGBTQ complaints more seriously if their reaction to any sort of push back wasn't "literal genocide". Because I'm either laughing and/or rolling my eyes at topics like these.
What do you observe as the "push back" in this case?

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Strider102
09/07/22 9:19:38 PM
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Ah yes, refusing to give medications and insurance because of religious reasons is simply push back.

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lennethsoki
09/07/22 9:19:57 PM
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Ozarhok posted...
I'd take LGBTQ complaints more seriously if their reaction to any sort of push back wasn't "literal genocide". Because I'm either laughing and/or rolling my eyes at topics like these.

Yeah CE's sensationalism is hilarious. They've earned their title of "Resetera 2.0"

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lolife67
09/07/22 9:20:03 PM
#36:


CyricZ posted...
If I read correctly, there can be a refusal based on religious reasons.

Religious reasons. To not provide healthcare.

To allow LGBT people to contract a life-threatening illness. Because of religious reasons.

There is only one reason to do this.
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lolife67
09/07/22 9:21:36 PM
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Ozarhok posted...
I'd take LGBTQ complaints more seriously if their reaction to any sort of push back wasn't "literal genocide". Because I'm either laughing and/or rolling my eyes at topics like these.
So your litmus test of right and wrong is how the targeted people react? Not the actual act itself?
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TheGoldenEel
09/07/22 9:21:47 PM
#38:


Ozarhok posted...
I'd take LGBTQ complaints more seriously if their reaction to any sort of push back wasn't "literal genocide". Because I'm either laughing and/or rolling my eyes at topics like these.
literally genocide

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/8/5/AAW8UqAADpkN.jpg

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CyricZ
09/07/22 9:21:56 PM
#39:


lolife67 posted...
Remember when Jesus refused to heal that leper?
I do believe that is exactly how that went, yes.

Anyway....

lennethsoki posted...
Yeah CE's sensationalism is hilarious.
CyricZ posted...
What do you observe as the "push back" in this case?


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hockeybub89
09/07/22 9:23:16 PM
#40:


Jesus was well known for gleefully mandating that people suffer and die if he disagreed with them.

Wait, no he fucking wasn't and the "Christians" that force their large, overbearing government others don't give a shit! They take large, steaming shits all over their supposed God's will.

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hockeybub89
09/07/22 9:26:08 PM
#41:


lennethsoki posted...
Yeah CE's sensationalism is hilarious. They've earned their title of "Resetera 2.0"
Let me get this straight. Your kind doesn't care if people are harmed if anyone being harmed overexaggerates the harm? What's the endgame there? To teach them a lesson by making things as bad as they thought they were?

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Questionmarktarius
09/07/22 9:27:10 PM
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MrMallard posted...
Apologies, another topic title caught me off-guard and I misunderstood.
Meh, that happens sometimes, especially in heated CE threads.

hockeybub89 posted...
Jesus was well known for gleefully mandating that people suffer and die if he disagreed with them.
God hates figs. We've just somehow misspelled it somewhere along the way.
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GrandConjuraton
09/07/22 9:32:37 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Jesus was well known for gleefully mandating that people suffer and die if he disagreed with them.

Wait, no he fucking wasn't and the "Christians" that force their large, overbearing government others don't give a shit! They take large, steaming shits all over their supposed God's will.
Coming from a LGBT Christian... most Christians don't actually follow the teachings of Jesus, and that's how we have the fascist country that we're increasingly coming to have. Most use the religion as a cover to justify their hate and even their greed, and that goes contrary to everything Jesus actually stood for.

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hockeybub89
09/07/22 9:34:53 PM
#44:


Ozarhok posted...
I'd take LGBTQ complaints more seriously if their reaction to any sort of push back wasn't "literal genocide". Because I'm either laughing and/or rolling my eyes at topics like these.
What exactly are people sick and tired of that justifies the push back of *checks notes* letting employers kill their
employees for catching a STD?

And their your kind has the gall to say shit like "hmmm the so-called progressives aren't very tolerant of other opinions". As if LGBTQ people are the problem for not getting along with people who literally want to legislate them out of existence!

Imagine your reaction if the mythical extreme lefties in government said that employers could kill you for being white or being in a opposite-sex relationship. It certainly wouldn't be apathy and "Well that's what the straights get for being so aggressively... existent?"

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InTheEyesOfFire
09/07/22 9:35:42 PM
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Religion/party of the people right? Oh right, only the RIGHT people.

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FaultyCircuitry
09/07/22 9:40:14 PM
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and you people who laugh that we exaggerate aren't going to have anyone left when the ruling class comes for you, because they don't stop at us. tthere is always a next target

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Sayoria
09/07/22 9:40:45 PM
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A "Let's have universal healthcare!"

B "Bro, no. I love my health insurance!"

A "Then let's have health insurance cover everything!"

B "Bro, no, they have religious exemptions you know!"

A "I'm dying and can't afford to get the treatment I need!"

B "Bro, you shoulda just got health insurance!"

A "I have health insurance!"

B "Then stop being gay!"

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Robot2600
09/07/22 9:42:43 PM
#49:


lol @ people not knowing the definition of "genocide"

except not lol

not lol at all

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Dreepapult
09/07/22 9:45:03 PM
#50:


Robot2600 posted...
lol @ people not knowing the definition of "genocide"

except not lol

not lol at all
I'll admit I was wrong I guess it would fit some parts of the definition. My mind just goes to gas chambers or Rwanda.

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hockeybub89
09/07/22 9:45:42 PM
#51:


FaultyCircuitry posted...
and you people who laugh that we exaggerate aren't going to have anyone left when the ruling class comes for you, because they don't stop at us. tthere is always a next target
The idea that there's an acceptable amount of innocent minority deaths at the hands of the government is laughable.
"Yeah that's not the best, but get back to me when they kill 8 million people in concentration camps! Besides, you can just like... get a new job that agrees with your lifestyle!"

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