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https://twitter.com/KyrieAPage/status/1573442898003218453?t=No6GiznGbQaZVqG743oWAA&s=19

seriously the fact this movie made so much money yet no one cares about it really is sad

Moviegoers: "Pandora is so beautiful! I wish I could live on a planet like that!"
Also Moviegoers: *continue to destroy the Earth with pollution and deforestation*

IIRC correctly there was a suicide hotline for a while for people depressed about the avatar world not being real?

It's kinda of a lame scifi b movie.

Yes, fanfic is the only true measure of a piece of media's impact on the cultural zeitgeist.

I remember it being my dad's first (and only) 3D movie, and him bringing home those disposable 3D glasses and trying them on the TV, lol.

Heartomaton posted...

Yes, fanfic is the only true measure of a piece of media's impact on the cultural zeitgeist.

ok list anything it has impacted at all

you never hear ppl talk about its plot (which seems to just be white savior BS)

you dont see it get referenced all that much

what does it have beyond its pretty visuals

AceMos posted...

ok list anything it has impacted at all

you never hear ppl talk about its plot (which seems to just be white savior BS)

you dont see it get referenced all that much

what does it have beyond its pretty visuals

I don't know. I didn't see it and had no interest to.

But that doesn't mean that trying to measure something's impact on the world by the length of the fanfiction about it isn't wildly asinine.

How much fanfiction does Shakespeare have written about his works? How numerous are the fan stories about James Cameron's other famous movies, and how long are they? Where's my slash fic about Sherlock Holmes hooking up with Jame Bond?

This was ridiculous from the start.

It's hard to leave a cultural footprint when you're just covering territory already established by Fern Gully and Dances with Wolves. But the pictures were pretty, I guess.

g0ldie posted...

I remember it being my dad's first (and only) 3D movie, and him bringing home those disposable 3D glasses and trying them on the TV, lol.

Haha your poor dad

I rewatched Avatar in 3D at the cinema on Friday night. The movie is good.

Heartomaton posted...

I don't know. I didn't see it and had no interest to.

But that doesn't mean that trying to measure something's impact on the world by the length of the fanfiction about it isn't wildly asinine.

How much fanfiction does Shakespeare have written about his works? How numerous are the fan stories about James Cameron's other famous movies, and how long are they? Where's my slash fic about Sherlock Holmes hooking up with Jame Bond?

This was ridiculous from the start.

You definitely get jokes

Movies ate supposed to be entertaining not for a cultural impact

BTW do they even make 3D televisions anymore?

Heartomaton posted...

I don't know. I didn't see it and had no interest to.

lol.

__aCEr__ posted...

BTW do they even make 3D televisions anymore?

I don't think so lol.

Is 3D ever gonna be permanent? It always comes and goes lol.

Ivynn posted...

Is 3D ever gonna be permanent? It always comes and goes lol.

Maybe when they manage to do it in a way that it isn't a sucky gimmick

TMOG posted...

You definitely get jokes

Thinking TC was joking is the real laugh.

Nobody actually watched this movie.

I havent seen Avatar, but just from that snippet I am now aware I should not take Vulture seriously as a source.

Heartomaton posted...

How much fanfiction does Shakespeare have written about his works?

4618

Heartomaton posted...

How numerous are the fan stories about James Cameron's other famous movies, and how long are they?

Terminator has 925, the longest is at 6.5 million words and counting.

Titanic has 653, the longest is at 345,925 words and counting.

Heartomaton posted...

Where's my slash fic about Sherlock Holmes hooking up with Jame Bond?

Only nine, the most popular is Three's a Crowd by therunawaypen.

AO3 has a search function lol.

I totally know what that is.

Imagine being an adult and reading fanfics.

It's funny how you have to say Avatar the movie because people care more about the Nickelodeon show

Heartomaton posted...

I totally know what that is.

AO3 is the most popular fanfiction site.

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Imagine being an adult and reading fanfics.

Imagine being an adult and scoffing at people enjoying things.

pegusus123456 posted...

AO3 is the most popular fanfiction site.

I assumed. But providing numbers for the hypotheticals I yanked from by butt doesn't change the point I was trying to make.

The fact that I assumed TC was talking about The Last Airbender is fairly notable.

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Imagine being an adult and reading fanfics.

Didnt you read deviantart to find a fanpic from Dungeons and Dragons to pass off as Game of Thrones fanart to fuel a rightwing nuttery meltdown over fake raceswaps of a barely established character?

Guys!!!

Twitter said the thing again!!!!!

Heartomaton posted...

I assumed. But providing numbers for the hypotheticals I yanked from by butt doesn't change the point I was trying to make.

I think the argument the twitter user made isn't completely silly though. It's not just how much fanfiction was made about it, it's the ratio of how many people saw it vs how many people cared enough about it to write fanfiction. Fanfiction authors are usually the some of the most passionate fans of a franchise, the fact that so few of them cared about Avatar particularly when it's a furry fantasy movie is pretty telling.

pegusus123456 posted...

AO3 is the most popular fanfiction site.

Whatever happened to Fanfiction.Net? Wasn't that THE fanfic site?

My sister wrote some stuff on it in the early 2000s. I wonder if they're still there lol.

AmericaTheBrave posted...

Imagine being an adult and reading fanfics.

What's wrong with it?

avatar's biggest cultural impact is having little to no cultural impact

Ivynn posted...

Whatever happened to Fanfiction.Net? Wasn't that THE fanfic site?

My sister wrote some stuff on it in the early 2000s. I wonder if they're still there lol.

It's still there, but I think they don't allow porn, so it's not as popular.

Ivynn posted...

Whatever happened to Fanfiction.Net? Wasn't that THE fanfic site?

My sister wrote some stuff on it in the early 2000s. I wonder if they're still there lol.

the website slowly went to crap

i dotn event hink it has a person running it anymore its had a bug where ppl dont get email alerts for updates all year and it has not been fixed and no information has been given out

pegusus123456 posted...

I think the argument the twitter user made isn't completely silly though. It's not just how much fanfiction was made about it, it's the ratio of how many people saw it vs how many people cared enough about it to write fanfiction. Fanfiction authors are usually the some of the most passionate fans of a franchise, the fact that so few of them cared about Avatar particularly when it's a furry fantasy movie is pretty telling.

Fair enough, not completely silly, I'll concede that much.

But the notion that the length and abundance of fan stories about any one thing is the only measure of its impact is.

Heartomaton posted...

But the notion that the length and abundance of fan stories about any one thing is the only measure of its impact is.

thats fair

so why cant you list ANY impact it had

AceMos posted...

thats fair

so why cant you list ANY impact it had

Because as I already showed, I am the wrong person to ask about it. Didn't see it, don't care to see it. You need to ask someone who did and does, preferably one who studies these sorts of things. Average person probably isn't going to know.

Ivynn posted...

I don't think so lol.

Is 3D ever gonna be permanent? It always comes and goes lol.

Its because for every movie that makes good use of it, there are like 20 that use it for lame gimmicks or just as an excuse to sell tickets for more money.

I never saw Avatar, but I remember Coraline used its 3D very effectively.

The only 3D movie I ever saw where I felt it added something worthwhile was Dredd. And even then, its still an excellent film without it and Im not sure what it added makes up for having to wear those annoying glasses for the duration.

Heartomaton posted...

Because as I already showed, I am the wrong person to ask about it. Didn't see it, don't care to see it. You need to ask someone who did and does, preferably one who studies these sorts of things. Average person probably isn't going to know.

ok what about memorable qoutes from the film even if you never see a big block buster those show up every where

or iconic scenes those get homaged and parodied endlessly

even if you have never seen endgame you know the response to "i am inevitable"

if you have never seen star wars you know "ive got a bad feeling about this" and "ITS A TRAP"

you know what a t1000 is even if you have never seen terminator 2

you know what the state puff marshmallow man is if you have never seen ghost busters

ect ect

but avatar dont have any of that

AceMos posted...

but avatar dont have any of that

You tell me you've never seen anything parody Avatar and I'll either call you a liar or someone who doesn't watch a lot of TV.

It's just one tiny 49 second example, but there's a Simpsons couch gag right here.

https://youtu.be/vXqHw6q4uow

South Park also parodied it when Cartman tried to live amongst the Smurfs.

I can't provide many more examples than that myself, these are just the ones I've personally seen. But you go looking, and I guarantee you'll find more stuff.

i dont watch the simpsons or south park so no i had not seen those

Does it really have enough content yet to actually generate a cultural footprint? There's 9+ Star Wars movies, 9 (I believe) Harry Potter movies, 8 seasons of Game of Thrones, like 7 LoTR movies with a show now, 9 billion Marvel movies and shows, other properties like Terminator, Alien, Predator all have had a thousand movies, etc. Not even including published book and comics and shit.

I'm sure if they ever achieve a trilogy or more for this franchise and flesh out the world and new characters, it'll start to have a "cultural imprint".

TMOG posted...

Moviegoers: "Pandora is so beautiful! I wish I could live on a planet like that!"
Also Moviegoers: *continue to destroy the Earth with pollution and deforestation*

Honestly this right here.

Heartomaton posted...

You tell me you've never seen anything parody Avatar and I'll either call you a liar or someone who doesn't watch a lot of TV.

It's just one tiny 49 second example, but there's a Simpsons couch gag right here.

https://youtu.be/vXqHw6q4uow

South Park also parodied it when Cartman tried to live amongst the Smurfs.

I can't provide many more examples than that myself, these are just the ones I've personally seen. But you go looking, and I guarantee you'll find more stuff.

Simpsons and South Park parody literally everything so I'm not sure they actually count as an example of Avatar capturing the cultural zeitgeist

No one cares about the movie or the story, the only reason it sold so much is because 3D movies were brand new and everyone wanted to try it.

Went on Friday and saw it in 3d again. Definitely didnt hold up as well as I thought it would. Its not a good movie but is entertaining.

As far as cultural impact the biggest thing I remember was that article coming out about people getting depressed at their shitty lives because they didnt live on Pandora. Which I thought was funny because a huge piece of the movie is about how literally everything on the planet wants to kill you. It would be a terrifying place to be, not to mention the toxic air.

I like avatar even more now. To me movies with lack of cultural impact are simply superior