Current Events > Do you consider atheism to be a kind of religion?

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In their unity, especially against religion. It has a lot of similarities in the way most people come together to speak about things, and even shuns people on occasion that don't hold particular beliefs ironically.

no not at all

literally the only thing all atheists have in common is that they don't believe in religion or theism. there are no rituals, no holy text, no doctrine, nothing that really binds them like a religion would

ElleRagu posted...

no not at all

literally the only thing all atheists have in common is that they don't believe in religion or theism. there are no rituals, no holy text, no doctrine, nothing that really binds them like a religion would

Heh, check out this guy who doesn't get invited to our ritual goat sacrifices.

check out r/atheism for a bit lol

Atheists can 100% develop a holier than thou attitude as a group

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I'm mostly talking about this board in all honesty. It feels like a religion here to some extent.

That and a lot of atheism in my experience in real life amounts to something along the lines of pagan, satani, or occult shit which is definitely a religion.

itachi15243 posted...

I'm mostly talking about this board in all honesty. It feels like a religion here to some extent.

That and a lot of atheism in my experience in real life amounts to something along the lines of pagan, satani, or occult shit which is definitely a religion.

I don't believe in any religion. I have no beliefs or rituals. I simply do not think about it. That's where my "religion" begins and ends.

Garioshi posted...

I don't believe in any religion. I have no beliefs or rituals. I simply do not think about it. That's where my "religion" begins and ends.

You have no beliefs but you stand up for not having any and would like to declare your non beliefs and rituals of delaring you don't have them?

Counter culture is a culture too, buddy. And I didn't even say that applied to all atheists. Probably not most even. It definitely has a similar vibe though.

it's less of a religion and more of a philosophy

the two used to be separate but over the last 1000 years or so they've kinda merged and become the same thing

Yes.

I consider my lack of religion to in fact be a religion in itself. It makes perfect sense. My atheist brethren all collect tithes and offerings from the poor, and then we go door to door passing out nonreligious-religious literature so that we can convert others to our nonreligious-religion, so that our afterlife will be elevated to an extra helping of nothing happening. If we do not adhere to the strictest policies of not believing then we are caned by our atheist 501c3 organization leaders.

bobspacethespacecow posted...

the two used to be separate but over the last 1000 years or so they've kinda merged and become the same thing

What? Theology also exists and is highly related to philosophy

Also atheism is inherently part of theology.

itachi15243 posted...

You have no beliefs but you stand up for not having any and would like to declare your non beliefs and rituals of delaring you don't have them?

That's one of the dumbest arguments in here, and there are some doozies. Replying to a post you made is what he was doing. It's not like he made topic after topic after topic talking about how he doesn't believe in God. If someone makes a statement about the board a poster replies how that doesn't apply to him, that just stands on its own. Regardless of the subject.

Is not eating food a form of eating?

EmbraceOfDeath posted...

It's a belief, but it's not a religion.

this ^

ANort175 posted...

ForTheGlory is suspended so it's probably the same pathetic lunatic as that guy, can't remember whose alt it's supposed to be though. SMAL is(and pretends to be) a lot of things but thank Darwin he's never gone with a "religious nutjob" gimmick.

Smal has been posting weird religious videos for years. I don't know how you could miss it.

Evangelical atheists can fuck right off.
If however, you believe that religions are fiction, without being obnoxious about it, we can be friends.

Questionmarktarius posted...

Evangelical atheists can fuck right off.
If however, you believe that religions are fiction, without being obnoxious about it, we can be friends.

Evangelical atheists are an oxymoron.

Just say aggressive atheists.

https://youtu.be/t08hGvMlk7k

https://i.imgur.com/KMyQH2B.png

bladegash posted...

Evangelical atheists are an oxymoron.

Just say aggressive atheists.

I prefer the term "atheist fundamentalist."

GATTJT posted...

No one is doing this.

Yes, there are people doing this.

asdf8562 posted...

That's not how science works.

The burden of proof is on the ones claiming it does exist.

The burden of proof is on the ones making a claim; whether you make a claim X exists or Y doesn't exist, you prove it in science. Case in point, E&M theory says it's possible for monopoles to exist. Does it exist? We haven't observed it in reality yet. But we don't know so we can't say it doesn't or does exist altogether.

RenescoStCewl posted...

Having a stance or belief doesn't mean it's a religion. For instance you believed in pizzagate but that doesn't make pizzagate a religion. It's just a really stupid belief.

I never said it was a religion, only some people do treat it as such. You need to work on your reading comprehension if you want attempt to slander people with forbidden topics.

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It's a belief that there is no greater power

Smashingpmkns posted...

It's neither a religion nor a belief.

Robot2600 posted...

By this logic I can force everyone into a religion by defining it as believing "Robot is actually God." Don't believe that? Then you are part of the arobot religion. Yes you are.

Ho ho ho no way out.

I was never obligated to refute belief in God because no proof has ever been presented. Ever.

You are absolutely wrong. There's been quite a bit of proof

Atheism is the lack of belief in God, i.e. there is no God. Philosophically speaking is the lack of belief in something a belief onto itself? Maybe. I could show you lots of people who don't believe in things. Looking at the definition of belief someone posted earlier, the portion that says "An acceptance that a statement is true" is a definition that fits. Atheists believe that the statement God does not exist is true.

Also there is atheist "culture" as well.

So yeah, a religion? Nah. I'm pretty sure that you have to believe in some higher power/supreme power/something nonhuman for that to be a thing. But a belief? Absolutely.

hitokoriX posted...

Atheism is the... belief... there is no God.

ftfy

Depends on how loosely you want to stretch the term "religion" and how small a sample size is required to validate the assertion.

There are definitely people who treat atheism like a religion, but there are people who treat the cartoon mouse from Rescue Rangers as a religion. Hell you could probably find somebody who worships a cheese sandwich if you look hard enough.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/9/7/AAYofGAADwph.jpg

Its not a religion, but its a belief system to be sure.

hitokoriX posted...

Atheism is the lack of belief in God, i.e. there is no God. Philosophically speaking is the lack of belief in something a belief onto itself? Maybe. I could show you lots of people who don't believe in things. Looking at the definition of belief someone posted earlier, the portion that says "An acceptance that a statement is true" is a definition that fits. Atheists believe that the statement God does not exist is true.

Also there is atheist "culture" as well.

So yeah, a religion? Nah. I'm pretty sure that you have to believe in some higher power/supreme power/something nonhuman for that to be a thing. But a belief? Absolutely.

Thank you, what some people saying that people are treating Atheism as a religion is more like there's a culture surrounding the Atheistic community. Calling Atheism of any sort a religion is wrong because there's no dogma or prayers to follow in it. You can be an atheist and still believe in a religion, that's what Buddist are. Atheism is simply an answer to one question, do you believe that God/Gods exist or not? Either you believe it/they exists or don't. Then there's gnosticism, which is the knowledge that you do or don't know they exist. For most atheist, we tend to be angostic atheist for that reason. When it comes to theism though, I've seen a good mix of agnostic theists and gnostic theists, but normally that depends on which part of the political spectrum they're on, anecedotally.

By definition, no.

There are certain stereotypical and off the mark, off the wall stereotypical atheist behaviors. It's absolutely a culture, with sects & icons

No, but extreme atheists can give off the same vibes as devout religious people. They both spend way too much time talking about their beliefs.

Y'all motherfuckers need Odin.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/7/7/1/AAeXtjAADwqr.png

itachi15243 posted...

Yes and no

People definitely treat it like one though.

Mostly no. In fact, 100% no, and not even slightly yes even a little bit.

Some Atheists show narcissistic tendencies and are insufferable to talk with. There's also the small minority of atheists that are just plain anti-christianity.

However most tend to just not care about religion and are not offensive to talk about it. It's just apathy.

Lord_Ephraim posted...

Some Atheists show narcissistic tendencies and are insufferable to talk with. There's also the small minority of atheists that are just plain anti-christianity.

However most tend to just not care about religion and are not offensive to talk about it. It's just apathy.

How? Just because someone doesnt agree with you doesnt mean they think they are better.

couldnt you say religious people who argue and claim they only know the truth are doing the exact same thing?

They are two forces who believe in contradictory ideas. Of course they arent going to agree with eachother.

I believe that when I jump into the air I'm not gonna float off into space. Does that make gravity a religion

DoesntMatter posted...

incorrect. atheism is the lack of belief in gods. no "believing" involved. you straight up reject the notion as factually untrue.

Wouldnt that mean you believe that there are no gods?

ChaoticKnuckles posted...

Wouldnt that mean you believe that there are no gods?

Why would it mean that?

Deedice posted...

You are absolutely wrong. There's been quite a bit of proof

what proof?

Sad_Face posted...

The burden of proof is on the ones making a claim; whether you make a claim X exists or Y doesn't exist, you prove it in science. Case in point, E&M theory says it's possible for monopoles to exist. Does it exist? We haven't observed it in reality yet. But we don't know so we can't say it doesn't or does exist altogether.

You literally have no idea what you are talking about.

The burden of proof is on the person who made the initial claim. Not the person who reacts to your claim that its not real.

You reacting by going, "wElL yOu No PrOoF mY ClAm Is WrOnG" is not how the burden of proof works.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Why would it mean that?

Because theres no way to prove it either way. Many athiests state with conviction that there factually are no gods. Theres some level of belief there because it cant be definitively proven that either side is correct.

t5yvxc posted...

You literally have no idea what you are talking about.

The burden of proof is on the person who made the initial claim. Not the person who reacts to your claim that its not real.

Theres a difference between someone making a claim and the other person simply saying okay I wont believe that until you prove it, and someone making a claim and the other person saying youre incorrect, in fact the opposite is actually true.

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Do they have to be equal in order for both to be beliefs though?