Current Events > Do you consider atheism to be a kind of religion?

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do you

It's a belief, but it's not a religion.

By definition, it cannot be.

No, but some people practically treat it like one.

it's factually not, doesn't matter what anyone "considers" about it

No

the only way atheism could be considered a religion is if your definition of religion is believing in something. There is no ritual, no doctrines or scripture, no tenants to uphold, and no point of origin with which to attribute peoples belief in the religion of atheism

at best its something said by people with the loosest idea of what a religion is and at worst its just a pseudo intellectual way to call atheists dogmatic without just calling them jerks

Atheism isn't a belief you nubs.

Just because u believe in a space Santa doesn't mean my lack of agreeing with u is a belief.

It's just a fact.

Atheism is a belief, Agnosticism is not. One is "I believe gods don't exist", other is "I don't have an opinion on whether they exist or not".

But to the topic, given how people are forming a community and identity around their atheistic beliefs, I would consider taking it to that extent to be a religion.

Sad_Face posted...

Atheism is a belief, Agnosticism is not. One is "I believe gods don't exist"

incorrect. atheism is the lack of belief in gods. no "believing" involved. you straight up reject the notion as factually untrue.

The problem is too many of y'all think atheism means being anti-religion

DoesntMatter posted...

incorrect. atheism is the lack of belief in gods. no "believing" involved. you straight up reject the notion as factually untrue.

Indeed, you have a stance, a disbelief in gods. The belief, the stance is that they do not exist.

VeggetaX posted...

The problem is too many of y'all think atheism means being anti-religion

the problem is too many theists think their dogma applies to me. stop using your faith as a weapon and i'll happily agree to live and let live.

No, that's stupid.

Atheism isn't a religion, so no.

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We differentiate between atheism and agnosticism for a reason.

Sad_Face posted...

Indeed, you have a stance, a disbelief in gods. The belief, the stance is that they do not exist.

https://youtu.be/bL1dIRi035k

Sad_Face posted...

But to the topic, given how people are forming a community and identity around their atheistic beliefs

No one is doing this.

By this logic I can force everyone into a religion by defining it as believing "Robot is actually God." Don't believe that? Then you are part of the arobot religion. Yes you are.

Ho ho ho no way out.

I was never obligated to refute belief in God because no proof has ever been presented. Ever.

Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

Sad_Face posted...

Indeed, you have a stance, a disbelief in gods. The belief, the stance is that they do not exist.

Having a stance or belief doesn't mean it's a religion. For instance you believed in pizzagate but that doesn't make pizzagate a religion. It's just a really stupid belief.

It's neither a religion nor a belief.

Robot2600 posted...

By this logic I can force everyone into a religion by defining it as believing "Robot is actually God." Don't believe that? Then you are part of the arobot religion. Yes you are.

Ho ho ho no way out.

I was never obligated to refute belief in God because no proof has ever been presented. Ever.

I mean you could.

Theist =/= Religious either. You could believe in a flying spaghetti monster is the almighty God of the universe. That makes you a theist,, it however doesn't automatically make you religious.

Believing in a God and believing in a religion is not the same thing. Even though many mistakenly confuse the two as the same.

Religion, no, but it certainly takes faith to claim you know God does not exist, that there is no afterlife, etc.

it really doesn't. the same way it doesn't take faith for you to reject the 10000 gods/religions you don't believe exist.

Atheism is a religion in the same way abstinence is a sex position

Medussa posted...

it really doesn't. the same way it doesn't take faith for you to reject the 10000 gods/religions you don't believe exist.

So how do you prove God doesnt exist or that theres no afterlife? Explain how you can scientifically prove either of those.

PerkinsMiller posted...

So how do you prove God doesnt exist or that theres no afterlife? Explain how you can scientifically prove either of those.

Prove that Ren and Stimpy don't exist. Do it right now. You can't. So I'm totally justified in believing they exist...

Some ideas are so dumb u don't have to disprove them.

You cant say theres no afterlife unless you die and somehow return to confirm. As a Christian, I have faith in God, Jesus, and an afterlife. Atheists are no different as far as having faith in what they believe.

PerkinsMiller posted...

So how do you prove God doesnt exist or that theres no afterlife? Explain how you can scientifically prove either of those.

That's not how science works.

The burden of proof is on the ones claiming it does exist.

If you believe the world was created by a flying spaghetti monster, it's not on everyone else to prove your claim is wrong.

You can claim whatever you want really. Making wild claims and demanding everyone else to prove it wrong doesn't suddenly make it fact or scientific.

No, its more arrogant than religion

It's not religious to be anti-religious

PerkinsMiller posted...

So how do you prove God doesnt exist or that theres no afterlife? Explain how you can scientifically prove either of those.

i don't have to. i've been given zero reason to believe in them in the first place. triply so for the popular religions of today, since they are all self-contradictory.

asdf8562 posted...

That's not how science works.

The burden of proof is on the ones claiming it does exist.

If you believe the world was created by a flying spaghetti monster, it's not on everyone else to prove your claim is wrong.

You can claim whatever you want really. Making wild claims and demanding everyone else to prove it wrong doesn't suddenly make it fact or scientific.

Atheists claim theres no afterlife or God. Thats a hypothesis. So prove it.

PerkinsMiller posted...

You cant say theres no afterlife unless you die and somehow return to confirm. As a Christian, I have faith in God, Jesus, and an afterlife. Atheists are no different as far as having faith in what they believe.

Nope. I'm very different because the shit I "believe" actually makes sense. I only believe things with proof. The end.

I don't have any faith. There is science and then there is fantasy land.

PerkinsMiller posted...

Atheists claim theres no afterlife or God. Thats a hypothesis. So prove it.

One is never obligated to prove a wild, stupid hypothesis.

Prove Santa clause doesn't exist. It's the same fucking thing.

It's a 4 Karma account, don't waste your keystrokes.

i dont remember churches or gatherings for atheists

PerkinsMiller posted...

Atheists claim theres no afterlife or God. Thats a hypothesis. So prove it.

Atheism isn't claiming anything of thr sort to there being no afterlife. First of all, all atheist don't believe there's no afterlife. You are again confused what Atheism is.

Second, if I claim Goku and Nakekians exist, the burden of proof is me and followers to prove it is real. We would be the ones introducing this fantastic claim.

It is not the responsibility of everyone else to prove my fantastic claim is wrong.

That's not how burden of proof works. Saying "you can't prove my fantastic claim wrong" would still make you fantastic claim unscientific, with the burden of proof still being the the group who claimed its real.

PerkinsMiller posted...

Atheists claim theres no afterlife or God. Thats a hypothesis. So prove it.

That's not remotely how the scientific method works. Proving a negative has never been the standard.

As a Catholic, making a claim for divinity and an afterlife is the extreme claim, not the ones saying existence ends at death.

Im not an absolute bag of liquid feces pretending to be a human, so of course I dont think something as mindnumbingly stupid as atheism being a religion.

PerkinsMiller posted...

You cant say theres no afterlife unless you die and somehow return to confirm. As a Christian, I have faith in God, Jesus, and an afterlife. Atheists are no different as far as having faith in what they believe.

This is why you don't make claims about stuff that can't be falsified. It degenerates into stuff like you said.

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ForTheGlory is suspended so it's probably the same pathetic lunatic as that guy, can't remember whose alt it's supposed to be though. SMAL is(and pretends to be) a lot of things but thank Darwin he's never gone with a "religious nutjob" gimmick.

ANort175 posted...

ForTheGlory is suspended so it's probably the same pathetic lunatic as that guy, can't remember whose alt it's supposed to be though. SMAL is(and pretends to be) a lot of things but thank Darwin he's never gone with a "religious nutjob" gimmick.

SMAL absolutely is a religious nutjob these days. But iirc he mostly just posts Jesus videos with no context.

Yes and no

People definitely treat it like one though.