Board 8 > YGO Master Duel Mafia Topic 3 - Time Limits and Endless combos do not Mix.

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And Mzero/Abacus

I think Ben was probably the correct answer last night.

Ctes was the first person I named in the game, so odds are he is Scum, but I haven't convinced myself yet.

Does anybody want to claim using a spell on BCT?

I'll need to reevaluate but I haven't bothered rereading anything yet.

What holds me back on Kirby being Scum is that Ben says he's Town, and I don't think Ben goes so hard on that if Ben is Town and Kirby is Scum. So it would be a Scum/Scum team in that instance, but I think Ben would be the preferred lynch in that instance anyway.

I was angry yesterday and Chang and Hb (iirc) sort of both swooped in and helped add fuel to the fire for SBell.

##Vote: Ctes

Red double-voted Ctes and died, that's the smart money.

Ctes, you won me over with your "i have nothing to defend myself against" yesterday, but now you've got 48 hours to defend yourself.

##Unvote
##Vote: ctes

This is fine

What makes me immediately scared of voting Ben is that thing he mentioned about "Corrik is who I would prioritize nightkilling", my immediate thought is that someone is framing him, hoping to push an easy lynch?

I will apologize for not being around much at all yesterday/not around the deadline.

Lopen and HB what made you decide to swap your votes to CTES towards the end? It seemed like it just... Happened... And then it was done.

Speaking of which, Sultan what made you decide to vote CTES after the claim, and after Lopen and HB were satisfied?

I agree with Ben being the better choice, and a lot of that stems from his insistence on having people claim. I don't really remember that ever being a thing that Ben does - and really I only see negatives for town.

Lopen posted...

And Mzero/Abacus

You're incorrect in this assessment, but I understand why you feel that way.

Lopen posted...

##Unvote
##Vote: ctes

This is fine

Now, this is odd. Do you think Han is bussing here?

ViolentAbacus posted...

Lopen and HB what made you decide to swap your votes

I voted Ctes because leaving the vote on Han was pointless and I trusted red as town.

Hbthebattle posted...

Now, this is odd. Do you think Han is bussing here?

Yeah

Corrik could have poisoned Han so I'm completely fine not lynching him today

Hbthebattle posted...

What makes me immediately scared of voting Ben is that thing he mentioned about "Corrik is who I would prioritize nightkilling", my immediate thought is that someone is framing him, hoping to push an easy lynch?

Red has a reputation and Corrik has had a great game recently.
I had heat and ended up on the wrong lynch (and usually am a priority save target anyway).

The real hesitance I have here is that Poppy is probably the best nk target if he's Town, and Corrik specifically gunned for him.

Lopen posted...

Yeah

Corrik could have poisoned Han so I'm completely fine not lynching him today

This is literally impossible lol

ViolentAbacus posted...

Lopen and HB what made you decide to swap your votes to CTES towards the end? It seemed like it just... Happened... And then it was done.

It was a spring of the moment decision because I liked the people more on Ctes (Han, BCT, Poppy) more than those on Sbell (Red, Ben).

We should listen to me more, and I should have argued for Sbell harder but it all happened in the last 10 minutes and there was no time. I really don't understand why a majority of people that voted for him did. I haven't gotten a chance to re read end of day yet so I'm doing that now.

And hey look I guess I was right about Corrik being a target too

htaeD posted...

BCT has also set one trap card, but it was activated at the same time. Crossout Designator successfully blocked the spell that targeted him.

Whoever targeted me with that Pot of Greed must've underestimated my ability to anticipate it; my gems were quite obviously used on a Pot and a Crossout, the former to fuel the latter. Take that, scum! (They did get their extra kill off though. Dang.)

Also: I'm MAD at SBell. He had to do something THAT stupid. Anyone watching would be very confused as to why the town doc would go ahead and say HEY LETS LYNCH TOWN ITS EASY! out of the blue. This attracted way too much attention to him. If he doesnt randomly push for me to be mislynched late in the day for whatever reason, he lives, and we keep our doctor. Given flavor, there may be a Call of the Haunted Town Backup deck based on the anime variant used by Bonez (Brainz in The Abridged Series). Whoever that is: Dont claim.

Sultan keeps going after me for no reason, and Id like an explanation as to why. I *do* hope stops now that I'm confirmed town. Apparently having a life makes someone scum in his brain! I WOULD like to thank Sultan for suspecting me enough that scum kept me alive enough to post again (and tried to set up me the bomb), but I also have to say this, and I quote: Claim or die.

Lopen posted...

Other scum Ctes and Hb

How do you know this?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

How do you know this?

Hb vote swap at the end of the day doesn't make sense unless they're both scum tbh

ViolentAbacus posted...

HB what made you decide to swap your votes to CTES towards the end?

Hbthebattle posted...

I'm fine with either ctes or sbell. Han, what's your pitch with sbell over ctes here?

Hbthebattle posted...

It was a spring of the moment decision because I liked the people more on Ctes (Han, BCT, Poppy) more than those on Sbell (Red, Ben).

Hb ended the day on SBell.

Hb, why don't you know who you voted yesterday?

HB had his vote on ctes, then swapped off once ctes claimed.

ViolentAbacus posted...

I agree with Ben being the better choice, and a lot of that stems from his insistence on having people claim. I don't really remember that ever being a thing that Ben does - and really I only see negatives for town

If sbell claimed we wouldn't be here. Not that I ever asked him anyway becaue I'm not trying to have towny people claim

ViolentAbacus posted...

HB had his vote on ctes, then swapped off once ctes claimed.

That's literally not what he answered to you though.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

That's literally not what he answered to you though.

I took that as him answering why he voted for him initially.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Whoever targeted me with that Pot of Greed must've underestimated my ability to anticipate it; my gems were quite obviously used on a Pot and a Crossout, the former to fuel the latter. Take that, scum! (They did get their extra kill off though. Dang.)

Also: I'm MAD at SBell. He had to do something THAT stupid. Anyone watching would be very confused as to why the town doc would go ahead and say HEY LETS LYNCH TOWN ITS EASY! out of the blue. This attracted way too much attention to him. If he doesnt randomly push for me to be mislynched late in the day for whatever reason, he lives, and we keep our doctor. Given flavor, there may be a Call of the Haunted Town Backup deck based on the anime variant used by Bonez (Brainz in The Abridged Series). Whoever that is: Dont claim.

Sultan keeps going after me for no reason, and Id like an explanation as to why. I *do* hope stops now that I'm confirmed town. Apparently having a life makes someone scum in his brain! I WOULD like to thank Sultan for suspecting me enough that scum kept me alive enough to post again (and tried to set up me the bomb), but I also have to say this, and I quote: Claim or die.

How do you know this?

I'm starting to think BCT is Scum again.

ViolentAbacus posted...

I took that as him answering why he voted for him initially.

No.

He LITERALLY said something different.

Why are you defending his misspeak?

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I'm starting to think BCT is Scum again.

Please explain why I'd be scum after the trap card. Unless of course you think that's a ruse, but I can assure you it's not.

PoppyTheNinja posted...

this feels so much more stressful as town

This is a post I can only see town saying in the moment. Last time he was third party thus didnt care about how the lynch went. If Ctes is scum then maybe he said it because he was worried about Ctes dying, but if both lynch targets were town I dont think Poppy can be scum

HanOfTheNekos posted...

No.

He LITERALLY said something different.

Why are you defending his misspeak?

Because they're mates

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Hb, why don't you know who you voted yesterday?

typo from trying to multitask, but you get my point, right?

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Please explain why I'd be scum after the trap card. Unless of course you think that's a ruse, but I can assure you it's not.

Pot of Greed cost 50 gems so any single Scum player could have bought it. It's so incredibly easy to fake that it can't be taken as proof. It does make it clear that a dayscan on you would be honest though (unless you're Godfather, in which case it is a very clever Scum ruse but I digress).

I'll explain why you look like Scum for that post in a second.

I do apologize if I look like scum. I can assure you that I'm town - I didn't think that scum could target each other with those for some reason. Whoops.

Lopen posted...

Because they're mates

If this is true, then Ctes isn't Scum.

I don't think Ctes can be Scum if Hb is. He'd not have made that gaffe.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Why are you defending his misspeak?

I took it as a different way, as I specified when they initially voted on ctes. But I went back and did notice that when he voted for ctes there was not anyone he listed that had been voting for ctes.

So HB can you explain that slip?

Lopen posted...

Because they're mates

neither abacus or I are scum.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I don't think Ctes can be Scum if Hb is. He'd not have made that gaffe.

Hb making a gaffe makes more sense than the alternative of him deciding to swap votes at that moment with that logic as town tbh

ViolentAbacus posted...

I took it as a different way, as I specified when they initially voted on ctes. But I went back and did notice that when he voted for ctes there was not anyone he listed that had been voting for ctes.

So HB can you explain that slip?

i accidentally swapped them. Han, BCT, and Poppy were on Sbell, Red and Ben were on ctes. I already had written up the post but then accidentally deleted the page, and rushed when I retyped it.

Hbthebattle posted...

I don't really want to lynch Chang today, so we're not doing that. I think Sbell or, to a lesser extent, Ben are better choices here.

HB when trying to explain where his vote is going to go, says he doesnt want to lynch Chang "TODAY", implying later he might want to lynch him.

Hb, what about Chang made him more important to keep around yesterday then me and Sbell, but not town enough to say you town read him?

PunishedBen posted...

HB when trying to explain where his vote is going to go, says he doesnt want to lynch Chang "TODAY", implying later he might want to lynch him.

Hb, what about Chang made him more important to keep around yesterday then me and Sbell, but not town enough to say you town read him?

chang simply didn't come off as particularly scummy yesterday compared to other available options. He was a neutral read.

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Whoever targeted me with that Pot of Greed must've underestimated my ability to anticipate it; my gems were quite obviously used on a Pot and a Crossout, the former to fuel the latter. Take that, scum! (They did get their extra kill off though. Dang.)

This just feels incredibly scripted. Like you want to draw as much attention to it as possible... but also, "Take that, scum!" is like, not a real thing that people say. And the extra comment of the extra kill is performative... like, why wouldn't Scum have gotten off an extra kill if they have one? Doctor was lynched.

Also: I'm MAD at SBell. He had to do something THAT stupid. Anyone watching would be very confused as to why the town doc would go ahead and say HEY LETS LYNCH TOWN ITS EASY! out of the blue. This attracted way too much attention to him. If he doesnt randomly push for me to be mislynched late in the day for whatever reason, he lives, and we keep our doctor. Given flavor, there may be a Call of the Haunted Town Backup deck based on the anime variant used by Bonez (Brainz in The Abridged Series). Whoever that is: Dont claim.

Why do you need to say this? That's the big thing - every Town is upset that SBell didn't claim. It's an understood state of mind, and making it so clear here in flashing letters is like... "HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME I'M TOWN YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE I'M MAD AT SBELL".

Talking about a possible Backup is where I'm a little twisted though, because I assume you'd be feigning not knowing the split at that point.

Claim or die.

Weird bravado, though I'll admit it's probably NAI.

Hbthebattle posted...

I will also be on board with Ctes as a lynch.
##Vote: Ctes

And then HB votes Ctes who isnt me or Sbell. But he never says he thinks Chang is town, just that he doesnt want to lynch him today. Scum team?

Lopen posted...

Hb making a gaffe makes more sense than the alternative of him deciding to swap votes at that moment with that logic as town tbh

This sentence is a little too run-on; can you rewrite it please?

He switched back to Sbell at the end, but even if Chang is town I dont like HB's reason for not voting Chang but leaving him open

anyway, let's highlight this post.

Lopen posted...

MZero hasn't posted nor been mentioned once

I believe he is probably scum taking in both of these facts at once

Lopen decided to go after an inactive player, who had not posted. This was only stymied by MZero replacing out.

Corrik only voted for Chang all day. Could be that simple unless anyone else can think of a reason Corrik got killed

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Weird bravado, though I'll admit it's probably NAI.

Sultan threatened me with the same thing at the end of D1 so I thought it fitting to threaten him back now that he looks like a fool for that.

Why do you need to say this? That's the big thing - every Town is upset that SBell didn't claim. It's an understood state of mind, and making it so clear here in flashing letters is like... "HEY GUYS LOOK AT ME I'M TOWN YOU KNOW THIS BECAUSE I'M MAD AT SBELL".

I'm a rookie still. Give me a break, lol. Part of it is my anger toward him targeting me for absolutely no reason. Like that's why I voted for him. Where the heck did that come from?

I assume you'd be feigning not knowing the split at that point.

Feigning what? How would I know the split?

This just feels incredibly scripted. Like you want to draw as much attention to it as possible... but also, "Take that, scum!" is like, not a real thing that people say. And the extra comment of the extra kill is performative... like, why wouldn't Scum have gotten off an extra kill if they have one? Doctor was lynched.

I wanted to draw attention to something that I thought people would've missed. It was not meant to be performative but to draw attention to someone trying to use a Pot of Greed on me, which is something I didn't want to be lost on people. I didn't quite think through how an outside perspective would see this. My error.

I do appreciate you helping guide me through this as it's important for me to learn where I fuck up :)

Also the pot of greed implies day cop is in the game. So maybe scum thought Corrik was day cop and scanned Chang?

PunishedBen posted...

Corrik only voted for Chang all day. Could be that simple unless anyone else can think of a reason Corrik got killed

Power #2.
Basically similar to last game with that no?

I'm cooking and still catching up. Will have a lot tonight.

PunishedBen posted...

Corrik only voted for Chang all day. Could be that simple unless anyone else can think of a reason Corrik got killed

Interesting choice of words there for someone who said that Corrik was one of his preferred nightkills yesterday. Can you not think of any reasons why someone would kill Corrik?

PunishedBen posted...

Corrik only voted for Chang all day. Could be that simple unless anyone else can think of a reason Corrik got killed

I was on Chang most of the day.
Statistics say...

I need to reread end of day, but I can't pay that much attention to reading and what I'm watching at the moment so it will have to be later.

Chang did not inspire me as Town before the last 2 hours of the day. When he swooped in to add activity, it did inspire me in the way he usually does. But also, I was angry and Chang specifically fed into my defensiveness towards SBell, so yeah, I can't make a clear call on him without rereading.

BCT please don't get too riled up

Han is scum trying to make you check out again. Town Han does not immediately jump to the conclusion that scum would blow two cards to "town confirm" you

BlueCrystalTear posted...

I wanted to draw attention to something that I thought people would've missed.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/1/3/AAOJ0pAADnyl.jpg

BlueCrystalTear posted...

Whoever targeted me with that Pot of Greed must've underestimated my ability to anticipate it; my gems were quite obviously used on a Pot and a Crossout, the former to fuel the latter. Take that, scum! (They did get their extra kill off though. Dang.)

Also: I'm MAD at SBell. He had to do something THAT stupid. Anyone watching would be very confused as to why the town doc would go ahead and say HEY LETS LYNCH TOWN ITS EASY! out of the blue. This attracted way too much attention to him. If he doesnt randomly push for me to be mislynched late in the day for whatever reason, he lives, and we keep our doctor. Given flavor, there may be a Call of the Haunted Town Backup deck based on the anime variant used by Bonez (Brainz in The Abridged Series). Whoever that is: Dont claim.

Sultan keeps going after me for no reason, and Id like an explanation as to why. I *do* hope stops now that I'm confirmed town. Apparently having a life makes someone scum in his brain! I WOULD like to thank Sultan for suspecting me enough that scum kept me alive enough to post again (and tried to set up me the bomb), but I also have to say this, and I quote: Claim or die.

How do you know this?

Lol I believe BCT here.

Lopen posted...

Town Han does not immediately jump to the conclusion that scum would blow two cards to "town confirm" you

That's true. I immediately jumped to the conclusion that it confirmed BCT as Town.
I then thought about it for more than 2 seconds and realized that was a dumb assumption.