Current Events > Weinstein lawyer: You must acquit because rape by blackmail was OK before Metoo

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DeadBankerDream
10/25/22 2:42:06 AM
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https://deadline.com/2022/10/harvey-weinstein-trial-sexual-assault-1235153279/

He said that the evidence in the case is based on emotion, not facts, that accusers were taking part in what he called transactional sex.
It was the casting couch, he said. Everyone did it. He did it. They did it. Because each wanted something from another.
Now look at him, Werksman said, referring to Weinstein. Hes not Brad Pitt or George Clooney. Do you think these beautiful women had sex with him because hes hot? They did it because he is powerful.
He claimed that an asteroid called the MeToo movement struck with such ferocity that everything changed overnight. And Mr. Weinstein became the epicenter of the MeToo movement.

Yes, you're right. They wanted something. Access to the industry. And Weinstein withheld it unless they had sex with him.

The accusers in this case, women who willingly played the dame by the rules that applied back then, they will come into this courtroom now, with their lawyers in tow, and claim they were raped and sexually assaulted, Werksman said. They have to lie to themselves to make what they did consensually back then seem like it was forced upon them.

"The rules that applied back then"

I wonder what that means.

He went through the list of accusers in an effort to cast doubts on their claims. That included Jennifer Siebel Newsom, wife of California Gov. Gavin Newsom. Werksman said that Siebel Newsom, identified as Jane Doe 4, had a consensual sexual relationship with Weinstein because she wanted help getting roles and producing films.
Shes made herself a prominent victim in the MeToo movementotherwise shed be just another bimbo with Weinstein to get ahead in Hollywood, Werksman said.

If you don't have sex with me you won't get ahead in Hollywood. Hmmm....

He referred to Siebel Newsoms claim that she went limp and dead inside when Weinstein allegedly raped her. But Werksman claimed that she faked an orgasm with Weinstein during the alleged assault. She did not communicate a lack of consent, just the opposite, he said. Weinstein actually and reasonably believed that she had consented due to the fake orgasm, he said.

It could not have been rape because she had an orgasm!

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gunplagirl
10/25/22 2:44:55 AM
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Bold move, let's see it it pays off

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baiken2
10/25/22 3:01:00 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
Shes made herself a prominent victim in the MeToo movementotherwise shed be just another bimbo with Weinstein to get ahead in Hollywood, Werksman
Hollywood. Incels with power
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Smashingpmkns
10/25/22 3:03:46 AM
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I'm pretty sure it wasn't okay

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BearlyWilling
10/25/22 3:04:15 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Bold move, let's see it it pays off


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BaphometFlux
10/25/22 3:06:19 AM
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That guy is a literal cartoon villain, the real world is really pathetic.

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Baha05
10/25/22 3:17:56 AM
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BaphometFlux posted...
That guy is a literal cartoon villain, the real world is really pathetic.
So what you are saying that if Im ever in a race I might get assaulted by Dick?

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BaphometFlux
10/25/22 4:07:45 AM
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Baha05 posted...
So what you are saying that if Im ever in a race I might get assaulted by Dick?
Yes

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utility_FB
10/25/22 4:13:25 AM
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Is the big law guy who works as a dean at Harvard still part of the weinstein team?

https://www.aclu.org/news/free-speech/harvard-was-wrong-dismiss-its-dean-representing-harvey-weinstein

Oh wow I guess they did get rid of him.
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itachi15243
10/25/22 4:21:33 AM
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I'm not even sure what to say about this one. Right up there with you can't rape your wife because she's married to you logic. Even some of the wording here sounds like something that'd barely past muster, if at all in the 70's, let alone today.

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scar_the_1
10/25/22 4:37:15 AM
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Every time big rich people say stuff like this, I have to assume that their PR consultants genuinely believe that public debate is in such a state that they think it'll work. Which, no matter how you look at it, is pretty depressing

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utility_FB
10/25/22 4:53:01 AM
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scar_the_1 posted...
Every time big rich people say stuff like this, I have to assume that their PR consultants genuinely believe that public debate is in such a state that they think it'll work. Which, no matter how you look at it, is pretty depressing
I thought these were arguments he's making in a criminal court, not the court of public opinion?
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ZevLoveDOOM
10/25/22 4:55:18 AM
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seems like his lawyer is about as sleazy and slimey as his client...
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Dreepapult
10/25/22 5:12:33 AM
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Wow that's bad

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scar_the_1
10/25/22 8:18:28 AM
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utility_FB posted...
I thought these were arguments he's making in a criminal court, not the court of public opinion?
Wouldn't that require some law to actually have changed?

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Nemu
10/25/22 8:23:33 AM
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On an individual basis, it does seem like it would be hard to prove whether it was coerced rape or prostitution for promotion, but I assume they must have plenty of evidence given how prolific and openly disgusting he was about it.
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famfam
10/25/22 8:29:57 AM
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utility_FB posted...
I thought these were arguments he's making in a criminal court, not the court of public opinion?

who do you think the jury consists of?
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famfam
10/25/22 8:30:31 AM
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Nemu posted...
On an individual basis, it does seem like it would be hard to prove whether it was coerced rape or prostitution for promotion, but I assume they must have plenty of evidence given how prolific and openly disgusting he was about it.

the issue is that people think there are scenarios where he didn't do something criminal
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pegusus123456
10/25/22 8:31:40 AM
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"Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, look at how grotesquely fucking ugly my client is."

Quite the defense, let's see if it pans out.

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SergeantGander
10/25/22 8:34:46 AM
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DeadBankerDream posted...


Yes, you're right. They wanted something. Access to the industry. And Weinstein withheld it unless they had sex with him.

"The rules that applied back then"

I wonder what that means.

If you don't have sex with me you won't get ahead in Hollywood. Hmmm....


I think all your comments sum it up pretty well.

In the industry it was common practice, basically:

baiken2 posted...
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Jiek_Fafn
10/25/22 8:39:31 AM
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Yeah, not the guy you want to have a nuanced discussion about what exactly constitutes as rape. Lock this piece of shit up

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Sad_Face
10/25/22 8:43:03 AM
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Nemu posted...
On an individual basis, it does seem like it would be hard to prove whether it was coerced rape or prostitution for promotion, but I assume they must have plenty of evidence given how prolific and openly disgusting he was about it.


Dig up why he's called "The Executioner" in Hollywood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPpoKquOG5Q

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DeadBankerDream
10/25/22 4:47:24 PM
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Bump

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NintendoFraud84
10/25/22 4:48:56 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
It could not have been rape because she had an orgasm!

Yea...wtf is this argument?
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FigureOfSpeech
10/25/22 4:52:09 PM
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DeadBankerDream posted...
It could not have been rape because she had an orgasm!

I remember an episode of Law & Order SVU where a girl was gang raped and that was the defense the rapists tried to use to prove consent. The ADA was like "um, no"

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Punished_Blinx
10/25/22 5:13:41 PM
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Ladies in the gentlemen of the jury I ask you. Would you suck this Shrek looking motherfuckers dick if you didn't get something else out of it? No! How is he supposed to get his dick wet if we don't let him leverage his position for sexual benefit?

Do you think I'd be standing here right now if I didn't let him shove it up my ass?

I rest my case.

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