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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 12:25:56 AM
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Im prepping to tell a friend this. I have been withholding extreme hatred for this person for quite some time. They are the last remnants of negativity in my life.

Im gonna genuinely enjoy being a cartoon villain to them. Like, after a certain point, fuck it.

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ArchNemo
11/01/22 12:29:56 AM
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Why have you not just cut them out of your life before this point?

Like, why live with extreme hatred of them, posing as their friend, to the point where you're going to enjoy being awful to them instead of just saying "You know, this really isn't working for me:

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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 12:32:43 AM
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ArchNemo posted...
Why have you not just cut them out of your life before this point?

Like, why live with extreme hatred of them, posing as their friend, to the point where you're going to enjoy being awful to them instead of just saying "You know, this really isn't working for me:

Because for eight years, they have been an emotional leech. Emotional manipulative. And took advantage of a younger me that was an ostracized loser.

Its hard to break things off when they call at 3am crying about how if it wasnt for you, theyd be dead.

So when you try to cut them off, youre illogical ass emotions wont let you. So Im just gonna burn the whole damn bridge down. And then murder the engineers.

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SrRd_RacinG
11/01/22 12:34:14 AM
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Your suffering is too strong. You both are two suffering beings. Say not a word to him.

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silverpine
11/01/22 12:35:22 AM
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whoa, this is very fucked up. please consider just walking away. you're still relying on them having a reaction that would make you feel better.
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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 12:38:22 AM
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SrRd_RacinG posted...
Your suffering is too strong. You both are two suffering beings. Say not a word to him.

If I dont say anything, theyll reach out. Andmy dumbass will go oh yay! I like hearing from them! And reciprocate. Even if they are completely useless and a parasite.

Im not the socially inept dweeb I once was. I have healthy friends now. I speak with my family. I have a social life. Im in good shape. Ihave a career.

But this fucking grandfatherd in loser is still around taking my energy and happiness. Fuck her and what they stand for. I need to ensure they know I hate them with all I can hate with.

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Number090684
11/01/22 12:38:59 AM
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Yes. Mostly some horrible people who have had a irrational dislike of me that stems from jealousy or even racism despite leading a humble life and trying to be understanding and kind. People who love to live to hate and discriminate against other people simply for them being different essentially ruin lives and communities for their petty bullshit are essentially domestic terrorists.
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coolguyjimmy
11/01/22 12:39:56 AM
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No, indifference is the opposite of love. Hate is just the other-side of Love.
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ArchNemo
11/01/22 12:40:38 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
If I dont say anything, theyll reach out. Andmy dumbass will go oh yay! I like hearing from them! And reciprocate. Even if they are completely useless and a parasite.

Im not the socially inept dweeb I once was. I have healthy friends now. I speak with my family. I have a social life. Im in good shape. Ihave a career.

But this fucking grandfatherd in loser is still around taking my energy and happiness. Fuck her and what they stand for. I need to ensure they know I hate them with all I can hate with.

So, now that you're in a better position and you feel you don't need them, you're going to shut them down. But when you were in a crappy position and (presumably) didn't have anyone else you had no issue not cutting ties?

It kinda sounds to me like you took advantage of each other.

Not saying you need to keep contact with them, not at all. Look out for yourself first.

Just questioning why you feel the need to hurt the person on the way out.

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CRON
11/01/22 12:43:00 AM
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Wishing death on someone is very tacky and requires a lot of pent-up anger and rage. Bottling it in is bad for you.

It's much easier to just dehumanize someone.
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Number090684
11/01/22 12:44:02 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
If I dont say anything, theyll reach out. Andmy dumbass will go oh yay! I like hearing from them! And reciprocate. Even if they are completely useless and a parasite.

Im not the socially inept dweeb I once was. I have healthy friends now. I speak with my family. I have a social life. Im in good shape. Ihave a career.

But this fucking grandfatherd in loser is still around taking my energy and happiness. Fuck her and what they stand for. I need to ensure they know I hate them with all I can hate with.

Put those fuckers on notice. From what you said about yourself there is no way someone as level headed as this could simply be misguided or petty. They must be a real headache and more people who supposedly care about them should have staged a intervention long ago. It shouldn't only be up to you.
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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 12:45:42 AM
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ArchNemo posted...
So, now that you're in a better position and you feel you don't need them, you're going to shut them down. But when you were in a crappy position and (presumably) didn't have anyone else you had no issue not cutting ties?

It kinda sounds to me like you took advantage of each other.

Not saying you need to keep contact with them, not at all. Look out for yourself first.

Just questioning why you feel the need to hurt the person on the way out.

Of course we took advantage of eachother. It was extremely codependent and not healthy. But I tried for years to help her be independent. But she never learns. She keeps fucking up and needing bail outs. Thats fine when Im a teenager. But Im trying to start a family. Settle down. I cant have some narcissistic deadbeat hitting me up at 3am crying for help.

I tried to be a good friend. I have. But some people are just shit. And they always will be.

I tried having faith in folks. But some people just cant be redeemed. It sucks, but thats my conclusion.

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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 12:54:11 AM
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And tbh. Since I dont give a shit. Im using this topic to vent.

The cocky bitch had the nerve to ask me if I would help her if she got pregnant. Like wtf? She knows starting a family and having a little one is one of my biggest dreams. To think she could substitute for that is loony af.

Fuck off.

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ArchNemo
11/01/22 12:55:31 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Of course we took advantage of eachother. It was extremely codependent and not healthy. But I tried for years to help her be independent. But she never learns. She keeps fucking up and needing bail outs. Thats fine when Im a teenager. But Im trying to start a family. Settle down. I cant have some narcissistic deadbeat hitting me up at 3am crying for help.

I tried to be a good friend. I have. But some people are just shit. And they always will be.

I tried having faith in folks. But some people just cant be redeemed. It sucks, but thats my conclusion.

That's all fine. Nothing is wrong with any of that.

But do you really need to go out of your way to hurt them on the way out? At the end of the day it's none of my business and I dunno your relationship. It just seems cruel to me and something you could end up regretting, either naturally down the line or depending on how she reacts.

You know, I could be way off and you could be totally justified. But maybe take a minute to decide if this is really something you wanna do to someone.

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silverpine
11/01/22 12:56:02 AM
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help her how....?
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haloiscoolisbak
11/01/22 12:57:38 AM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
No, indifference is the opposite of love. Hate is just the other-side of Love.

I agree with this. Hate is too strong an emotion and I've only held it for people I cared about and wouldn't actually want to die

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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 1:02:08 AM
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silverpine posted...
help her how....?

When we lived together, I tried to teach her how credit works. And how to file taxes. And how to not fucking fight other women over dudes. And how to not waste money on weed. And how posting nothing but ass on instagram wont attract good guys. Or how paying bills helps. Or how sometimes you dont need to immediately buy luxuries. Or how eating leftovers saves money.

Basic adult shit. But 8 years in, she started as a dumbass, continues as a dumbass. Constantly needing money or emotional support and Im sick of it.

Shes a disrespectful (C-word gfaq wont lemme use) and needs to drop off a cliff for all I care.

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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 1:03:43 AM
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ArchNemo posted...
That's all fine. Nothing is wrong with any of that.

But do you really need to go out of your way to hurt them on the way out? At the end of the day it's none of my business and I dunno your relationship. It just seems cruel to me and something you could end up regretting, either naturally down the line or depending on how she reacts.

You know, I could be way off and you could be totally justified. But maybe take a minute to decide if this is really something you wanna do to someone.

I dunno man. Im drinking tonight and just really wanna hurt her tbh. It will feel damn good. What better place thanCe to vent.

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KaZooo
11/01/22 1:09:58 AM
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You sound like you're in my brother's situation (except he cut-off most of the world except her like a dumbass). Could only hope he comes around like you.


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silverpine
11/01/22 1:11:56 AM
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so you tried to turn a ho into a housewife and now you HATE her. you should have just accepted who she is and been her friend even if she's trashy.
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SrRd_RacinG
11/01/22 1:14:22 AM
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Close your mouth and then proceed to seal your nostrils with a firm grip. When you've given up and can no longer breathe, please let go of your grip and open your mouth wide to allow your breath back in. Then you will the realize how comical anger is. It's as temporary as the moonlight outside your window. It'll pass.


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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 1:18:41 AM
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silverpine posted...
so you tried to turn a ho into a housewife and now you HATE her. you should have just accepted who she is and been her friend even if she's trashy.

I wasnt into her romantically. I was one of those losers who showed unconditionally loyalty to anyone who gave them positive attention. She just lucked out.

I have Captain save-a-hoe syndrome too, so it doesnt help. I blame my abusive ass father and feeling guilty I couldnt help my mom or Yorkie.

But I know Ill hurt myself staying friends with her. Because she makes me revert to pussy me. Shes the last fragment of me in that mindset. Shes the only person that could get $100s of dollars out of me by just asking. Thats dangerous af. I need to burn this bridge.

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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 1:20:21 AM
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SrRd_RacinG posted...
Close your mouth and then proceed to seal your nostrils with a firm grip. When you've given up and can no longer breathe, please let go of your grip and open your mouth wide to allow your breath back in. Then you will the realize how comical anger is. It's as temporary as the moonlight outside your window. It'll pass.

Bro, I dunno. I hate my father with an intensity I cant verbalize. My friend is reaching that level.

Im not a good person. I dunno if I can do that.

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Slaya4
11/01/22 1:21:04 AM
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Just leave her ass on read. You're wasting too much time and emotion on a person who you describe as being a nobody. Telling her you hate her is more hassle then it worth. Block her number and keep it pushing.

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Kitt
11/01/22 1:22:45 AM
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You can go back and forth with this person like a couple of high school girls. Or, get your notepad out cause this is a doozy -- you can be the adult in the situation (much like how you wanted her behave like an adult) a simply break all communications with her. Hell, have a whole conversation breaking down why you don't want to associate with her anymore.

You already plan on ending the relationship anyway. Why not just do it in a way that at least makes you look like the bigger person in the end, rather than going off look an emotionally unstable crazy person? Because the latter shows that she can still get to you.

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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 1:24:21 AM
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Slaya4 posted...
Just leave her ass on read. You're wasting too much time and emotion on a person who you describe as being a nobody. Telling her you hate her is more hassle then it worth. Block her number and keep it pushing.

I really want the satisfaction of her being hurt tbh. It would really make my fucking day.

But if people think blocking is better, I can try it.

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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 1:26:07 AM
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Kitt posted...
You can go back and forth with this person like a couple of high school girls. Or, get your notepad out cause this is a doozy -- you can be the adult in the situation (much like how you wanted her behave like an adult) a simply break all communications with her. Hell, have a whole conversation breaking down why you don't want to associate with her anymore.

You already plan on ending the relationship anyway. Why not just do it in a way that at least makes you look like the bigger person in the end, rather than going off look an emotionally unstable crazy person?

Yea yea. Youre maybe right. If I write down what I want to say ahead of time, maybe I can explain in a calm fashion. I shouldnt be emotional about this.

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Arcanine2009
11/01/22 1:26:07 AM
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I don't think this is good for your mental health. I I don't know the situation between you and that friend. Are they depressed? Sometimes it's a cry for help. But she sounds like a toxic individual who doesn't have things together. You don't have to be friends with her anymore. Tell her how you feel in a respectful way and that you don't want to be friends anymore because she is emotionally draining. And block her.

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BearlyWilling
11/01/22 1:27:10 AM
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Hmm.

getting some bitter friendzoned vibes here, OP. Not gonna lie

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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 1:32:40 AM
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Arcanine2009 posted...
I don't think this is good for your mental health. I I don't know the situation between you and that friend. Are they depressed? Sometimes it's a cry for help. But she sounds like a toxic individual who doesn't have things together. You don't have to be friends with her anymore. Tell her how you feel in a respectful way and that you don't want to be friends anymore because she is emotionally draining. And block her.

Shes attempted suicide before and I always feel so guilty whenever I try leaving because she either directly or indirectly states she wont do it since Im around. She occasionally mentions how she mentions me in suicide notes she drafts and it just stresses me the hell out.

But I feel like shit if I leave because she immediately starts crying or declaring Imjust like everyone else that leaves her. And I just feel like shes emotionally trapping me.

Imnot strong enough against her to break things off calmly. She literally tossed my stuff by the dumpster when I said I didnt want to live with her anymore.

We arent even a romantic thing. Shes emotionally manipulative and I dont trust myself to handle it.

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Kitt
11/01/22 1:34:57 AM
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cuttin_in_farm posted...
Yea yea. Youre maybe right. If I write down what I want to say ahead of time, maybe I can explain in a calm fashion. I shouldnt be emotional about this.
Something that assholes who feed of drama like to do is be assholes to other people that they perceive as doing better than them. So by bringing those people down to their level, it makes them feel better about themselves. That's pretty much the satisfaction you'll be giving that person by behaving the way you were initially planning.
But going at her with a more put-together approach and just letting her know outright that you don't need her in your life (and following through with it), that would sting way more. Especially if you keep leading a good life without her in it.

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silverpine
11/01/22 1:36:24 AM
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it's really shitty to threaten suicide when someone tries to distance themselves. you should definitely move on from this friendship. but the hate doesn't really make sense. this person IS your friend. you will heal better if you close the door without slamming it, i promise
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KaZooo
11/01/22 1:36:55 AM
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Just say you gotta be somewhere else in life, and that's it. No matter what it's going to look like abandonment, but clearly you know you can't be all that much help if you tried.

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The_Wheelman1
11/01/22 1:40:36 AM
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No I never wished death on anyone no matter how much I dislike them.

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cuttin_in_farm
11/01/22 1:43:20 AM
#36:


Hey. It might be the liquor talking.

But Im sorry if I try to seem above CE at times. It took me almost 3 decades to actually feel like I have a good footing in life so I just like to feel superior.

I really appreciate the advice so far in this topic. Ill try to calm down and explain myself calmly with a pre-prepared message. I do love her as a friend. But me and her just arent compatible. I cant blame myself

Thank you, CE.

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