Current Events > What's the benefit of being a good person?

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Trying to keep it together.

Bad people have friends. Evil people have those that support them.

Why be a good person? What do you get out of it?

Im trying to rationalize it. Why not just not give a damn? Who cares? Just ask forgiveness and accept Jesus and all will be forgiven, right?

Well Im sorry, Jesus. Because Im gonna do some bad shit because I want to. What better place to confess than a dying video game message board.

The friends you have as a bad person really aren't your friends

You get walked all over.
Taken advantage of.
Lied to.
Manipulated.

Cause they know youre too nice.

SauI_Goodman posted...

You get walked all over.
Taken advantage of.
Lied to.
Manipulated.

Cause they know youre too nice.

Being a wimp =/= a good person

i dont treat people right fer perks

there's a right way to treat people and a wrong way to treat people. just how it is

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Shabriri posted...

i dont treat people right fer perks

there's a right way to treat people and a wrong way to treat people. just how it is

How should you treat manipulative pieces of shit that think they can ruin lives and not suffer any fucking consequences?

Good people aren't good because it had an advantage. I don't think you're a good person if you only do things because it benefits you.

IDK its really confusing maybe if everyone was good it would benefit the world.

Like those trickle treaters stealing all the candies.

Only takes 1 bad kid to ruin it for everyone.

SauI_Goodman posted...

You get walked all over.
Taken advantage of.
Lied to.
Manipulated.

Cause they know youre too nice.

This is true. It's weird some of the nicest people I've met where at rehab. Drug addicts and such. Yeah some took advantage of me bumming cigarettes but most actually made attempts to pay me back despite it speeding up the process of them being back in the same spot of needing to bum.

But anyways it's a selfish take but I do it for me. It makes ME feel good to be a good person.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

How should you treat manipulative pieces of shit that think they can ruin lives and not suffer any fucking consequences?

like theyre pieces of shit not worth bein spit on

You don't live for anyone but yourself.

Nothing

fewer myspace-tier edgeposts

Truthfully outside of self gratification or the occasional bone tossed your way by a reciprocating party...not much. The saying nice guys finish last is pretty true, and no I don't mean that in the "nice guy tm" way or a way that means you need to be a total prick. But there's going to be spots in your life where your faced with doing the right thing or doing the best thing. And they are not always one and the same.

The benefits of being a good person are only known to that person because to be a good person in the way I think TC is framing it, one has to be completely selfless and not do things for any sort of adulation or praise. Solely for the joy it brings to them.

There are people like that in the world and they are wonderful, but its much easier and more beneficial to be a selfish asshole who uses people unfortunately.

I really want to do something very bad to a very bad person CE. I need help convincing me to not do it.

My friends are probably sleeping and I dont want to stress them out late at night.

But for the first time in my life I legitimately want to do something bad to another person. I just need a reason not to do it.

no point in pre meditated shit. if theyre mouthin off or pickin on someone in fronta you, sure, clobber em. otherwise it's outta yer hands

cuttin_in_farm posted...

I really want to do something very bad to a very bad person CE. I need help convincing me to not do it.

My friends are probably sleeping and I dont want to stress them out late at night.

But for the first time in my life I legitimately want to do something bad to another person. I just need a reason not to do it.

Have you tried sleeping on it?

Sometimes waking up with a clear head helps.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

I really want to do something very bad to a very bad person CE. I need help convincing me to not do it.

My friends are probably sleeping and I dont want to stress them out late at night.

But for the first time in my life I legitimately want to do something bad to another person. I just need a reason not to do it.

Man, she's really living in your head rent free. Just block her number and on social media and be done with it. Stop all of this fantasizing about making her feel bad.

You're less likely to be killed.

Both due to being more liked, and less likely to get put into lethal situations.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

But for the first time in my life I legitimately want to do something bad to another person. I just need a reason not to do it.

Besides the above? If you're shitposting on Gamefaqs, you're unlikely a person capable of "doing something bad" to a other person and taking the retaliation well.

Wtf

This person has been stressing me out with their narcissistic bullshit for 8 years. Shes the last piece of garbage I need to get rid of.

Ive blocked her everywhere. But I want to see her actually hurt. Its not enough to just sleep on it or let it go. I want her to hurt. Badly. I didnt have any power when it came to my dad, but I have power when it comes to her.

Worst case scenario, I ask for forgiveness.

What do I gain by ignoring these urges?

Being good is its own reward. If you want actual rewards then yeah try being bad.

dont really see much to be gained in some schoolyard revenge type bullshit

cuttin_in_farm posted...

What do I gain by ignoring these urges?

The satisfaction of being better than her.

Like what's your plan here? You make someone feel bad then you... revel in sadistic glee?

Then tomorrow you still feel shitty because you've held onto a grudge for 8 years when they've probably never thought of you.

A few:

- You have others to depend on after you've helped them in the past and were truly grateful.

- One's soul is at peace knowing that you were always true to yourself despite seeing a lot of people switch-up just for the sake of 'fitting in'. I have my morals, ideals, and virtues and I refuse to break them for anyone. I don't give a fuck how they're going to feel about it.

- You can sleep a bit more comfortably at night not worrying who so and so will come because you did them dirty.

- You get off with a lighter consequence if any with the law. (The last three times the police pulled me over were settled quickly with them just giving me a warning)

It's easier to not give a fuck, so a lot of people go that route and yet they STILL end up being miserable, unhappy, and bitter due to their immature mindset.

What "bad" are you planning to do?
Because there's a big difference between say stealing someone's Newspaper and saying "I'm never gonna talk to you, again", and setting fire to their house.

Also, you only exist because good people did good things. The human race exists as it does because of altruism, if we were all cut-throat people killing each other we'd never have developed civilization.

Umbreon posted...

The satisfaction of being better than her.

Like what's your plan here? You make someone feel bad then you... revel in sadistic glee?

Then tomorrow you still feel shitty because you've held onto a grudge for 8 years when they've probably never thought of you.

She just asked for help from me two days ago. The useless bitch cant do anything on her own.

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Ill try to sleep on it. Maybe Im too emotional.

I have maybe misjudged you in the past.

I just felt like hurting her. Physically. I cant stop thinking about how easy it would be to overpower her and just hurt her.

And that realization scares the fuck out of me. I really cant stand her. For her to try emailing me after I block her. Calling from no caller id numbers. She wont leave me the fuck alone and I dont know how to get rid of her otherwise.

But Ill sleep and try to think calmly tomorrow.

Also if you do a revenge gesture even if its menacing or misfortunate for them, they and anyone else who finds out is gonna think youre not only a bad person but a childish goon. I know that youre neither of those things, and I dont think you would find a way to truly respect yourself. Its ok to be angry, that much is out of your control, but you will feel more fulfilled if you find a constructive way to express it. If you can, find a way to channel it into personal growth.

You are worthy of and deserve admiration and respect, even from yourself, dont sabotage yourself by letting your anger control you.

On a societal level if everyone is nice everyone benefits.

Too many people adopt a selfish mean mindset and everything goes to hell.

Karma. Put good out into the world and it will come back to you.

Nothing, other than knowing you're not part of the problem of humans treating other humans like garbage.

cuttin_in_farm posted...

Im gonna do some bad shit because I want to

That makes you a bad person. If you're okay with that, then whatever, stay away from me.

DespondentDeity posted...

Also if you do a revenge gesture even if its menacing or misfortunate for them, they and anyone else who finds out is gonna think youre not only a bad person but a childish goon. I know that youre neither of those things, and I dont think you would find a way to truly respect yourself. Its ok to be angry, that much is out of your control, but you will feel more fulfilled if you find a constructive way to express it. If you can, find a way to channel it into personal growth.

You are worthy of and deserve admiration and respect, even from yourself, dont sabotage yourself by letting your anger control you.

Hey. Im sorry for being so difficult. You truly are one of the best posters on this site.

I know nobody cares. But I just was released from a stress center last month where I had inpatient care for two weeks. I had the most helpful two weeks in my life there. I met others who wanted to die and had shit they had to deal with.

But I think the thing that hit the hardest was realizing my friend of 8 years was the largest contributor to my stress and depression. No matter how much I tried helping her, shed always take advantage. No matter how much I tried going away, shed keep finding me and guilt tripping me.

From faking pregnancy to threatening suicide. Shes been a nightmare. I was so damn stupid and alone in my teenage years. How could I have known?

But realizing this all at once is tough to handle ig. I keep thinking just get rid of her personally, but I know that is just my kneejerk reaction.

I just feel betrayed because the only person defending her was me. And it turns out everyone else was right.

I am just gonna go to sleep.

Thank you, CE. Never thought Id say that. Considering I try to act superior so much here.

night bud. sleep well, hope some peace comes with the mornin

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And Im sorry to you too. Another poster I misjudged.

You describe how I feel. How guilty I feel just having these thoughts.

I just feel sick overall. And overwhelmed.

NeonOctopuses posted...

The friends you have as a bad person really aren't your friends

True. They're typically "friends" only under the condition you never expose your back to them.

What a friendship....

The forgiveness thing with God doesn't work like that. You can't do something bad and expect to be forgiven knowing exactly what you did on purpose. Even as an atheist I know this.

This is pathetic. Needing strangers on the internet to help. I hated my father for how he was. For his abuse.

But look what I am now. An alcoholic that wants to beat up women. I tried very hard to not be like him. But I turned out as a carbon copy. Good job me.

What else was I wrong about? Was I never a good person? Was I in the wrong?

Then theres a part of me that feels like I deserve what bad happens to me. That I dont deserve a good life. If I was to truly hurt her. What happens to me afterwards is justified.

Because Im a bad person. I am my fathers son afterall. It was bound to happen.

Time to drink until I pass out lol.

Those sound a lot like intrusive thoughts, and if youre feeling distressed over them thats a really good thing. A thought just occurs, and its up to us to react or respond to it, but we cant respond effectively if we react at all. Sleeping on it is a good option, theres some other grounding stuff I use when Im getting intrusive thoughts too, mostly based on counting but youll find your own style as you become more practiced at creating that buffer between occurrence and response.

It sounds to me that a lot of the thoughts are centered more on identifying the pain you feel when you were used by this person, rather than a genuine desire to see harm come to someone else. What she did was wrong, and you deserve better treatment in reciprocation for the effort and loyalty you gave out; dont get caught up too hard on that tho, it feels unfortunate until you tune your perspective on relationships but what that effort and loyalty entitles you to is not really reciprocation, but self esteem. I really adored how Flockaveli phrased it the other day when he said: Self esteem comes from performing esteem worthy actions. Id say esteem worthy actions describes pretty well your behavior towards this person.

You sound like a really good friend, I feel for you that you didnt have the opportunity to gift that friendship to someone who was worthy of it this time. Its so painful to shake off those toxic relationships when we get ensnared in them, but thats how we grow and become better communicators and more discerning individuals. We gotta take those knocks sometimes to see whats bad for us before we get it right.

The pain is gonna go away or change into a meaningful lesson, but if you compromise your values youll have to live with that forever.