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Zithers
11/09/22 12:30:13 AM
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The rest of the film is given over to an unimaginative quest for revenge and advertisements for upcoming Disney content, eventually coming back around to familiar Marvel dogma that the most powerful weapons in the world are best left unchecked in the hands of royal families and benevolent billionaires, who will always have our best interests in mind.

The in memoriam stuff: beautifully done. The other two hours and 35 mins? Honestly about as bad (and certainly as cruddily lit) as Marvel gets.

Significant portions feel more concerned with setting up Phase Five of the MCU than telling a singular story.

The parts of this that click do so very well but honestly its emotional swings work better on paper than in practice, it's in desperate need of narrative momentum, and the central conflicts lack the first one's galvanic thorniness. Also, without spoiling it, the best scene in the movie has the unfortunate side effect of reminding you of just what is missing here.


come back cap i can't @ you for some reason on here

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WingsOfGood
11/09/22 12:31:18 AM
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Zithers posted...
familiar Marvel dogma that the most powerful weapons in the world are best left unchecked in the hands of royal families and benevolent billionaires, who will always have our best interests in mind


Elon's newest favorite movue?
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Zithers
11/09/22 12:33:49 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
Elon's newest favorite movue?

remember how the first black panther was about a white cia officer helping a monarch reclaim his throne from a rebel who rightfully claimed the crown and fought for the oppressed

excellent propaganda !!!

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Disney_Dave
11/09/22 12:34:55 AM
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wonder what went wrong
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BearlyWilling
11/09/22 12:35:02 AM
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TIL an 87% with 132 critic reviews in is not having very good reviews coming in


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MICHALECOLE
11/09/22 12:35:35 AM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/6/AAFeIUAAD3Le.jpg

why you lyin?
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Biofighter55
11/09/22 12:35:38 AM
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Disney_Dave posted...
wonder what went wrong

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/400-current-events/80226182

tc not giving the whole story

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g0ldie
11/09/22 12:35:49 AM
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it's in the 80s on RT & 70s on MC, which indicate mostly good reviews, especially in relation to comic book movies.

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Halo478
11/09/22 12:36:03 AM
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BearlyWilling posted...
TIL an 87% with 132 critic reviews in is not having very good reviews coming in


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Disney_Dave
11/09/22 12:38:01 AM
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Oh Ive been misled
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008Zulu
11/09/22 12:38:12 AM
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What do you mean they were more interested in setting up the story, than telling A story?

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Zithers
11/09/22 12:42:37 AM
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BearlyWilling posted...
TIL an 87% with 132 critic reviews in is not having very good reviews coming in

i wasn't taking soyface geek critics into account with this fwiw. if you want to include ppl who do free advertising like like slashfilm or comicbook.com or whoever, you can i guess. that is most of RT btw.

i don't do that tho i prefer seeking out critics who actually like and enjoy all kinds of movies instead of just the biggest blockbusters in the world

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BearlyWilling
11/09/22 12:44:48 AM
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Zithers posted...
i wasn't taking soyface geek critics into account with this fwiw. if you want to include ppl who do free advertising like like slashfilm or comicbook.com or whoever, you can i guess. that is most of RT btw.

i don't do that tho i prefer seeking out critics who actually like and enjoy all kinds of movies instead of just the biggest blockbusters in the world

You know this reads as one long-winded

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/5/AAZbmwAAD3Ln.jpg

right?

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Zithers
11/09/22 12:47:36 AM
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BearlyWilling posted...
You know this reads as one long-winded

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/5/5/AAZbmwAAD3Ln.jpg

right?

ummm i didnt ask u to post a pic of yourself lol wtf?

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Nosferatu_Zodd
11/09/22 12:49:03 AM
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MCU should have ended at Endgame and rebooted with X-Men

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ekie
11/09/22 12:52:55 AM
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Disney_Dave posted...
wonder what went wrong

A black panther movie missing BlackPanther is what may have went wrong

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Zithers
11/09/22 12:53:19 AM
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@blue_inigo

is this working

what the h

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NoxObscuras
11/09/22 12:53:47 AM
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Zithers posted...
i wasn't taking soyface geek critics into account with this fwiw. if you want to include ppl who do free advertising like like slashfilm or comicbook.com or whoever, you can i guess. that is most of RT btw.

i don't do that tho i prefer seeking out critics who actually like and enjoy all kinds of movies instead of just the biggest blockbusters in the world
Sounds like a whole lot of confirmation bias there

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ekie
11/09/22 12:54:12 AM
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MICHALECOLE posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/4/4/6/AAFeIUAAD3Le.jpg

why you lyin?

That is essentially asking good or bad? Yes or no

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MICHALECOLE
11/09/22 12:55:48 AM
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ekie posted...
That is essentially asking good or bad? Yes or no
What
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Zithers
11/09/22 12:59:15 AM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Sounds like a whole lot of confirmation bias there

why would you care about the opinion of someone who just gives every marvel movie a positive review?

doesnt seem like a valuable resource for film criticism if you ask me !

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BearlyWilling
11/09/22 1:00:36 AM
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Zithers posted...
ummm i didnt ask u to post a pic of yourself lol wtf?

He herped as he derped along with his flopic

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RISEofCHRISTIAN
11/09/22 1:00:39 AM
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87 is critic score? If so, then movie is most likely bad.

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Phantom_Nook
11/09/22 1:03:59 AM
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oh zith zath. don't pretend you care, my love.

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BettyWhite
11/09/22 1:06:50 AM
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None of what Zithers has said is irrational. The movie can be entertaining and merit a positive review but still be an overall bad movie on the merits of it's story telling. Especially if the movie is largely focused on setting up future movies.

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Zithers
11/09/22 1:10:12 AM
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BearlyWilling posted...
He herped as he derped along with his flopic

its only a flopic if cap doesnt come back

cap please come back

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HolierThanMao
11/09/22 1:12:06 AM
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wakanda never
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g0ldie
11/09/22 1:13:42 AM
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BettyWhite posted...
None of what Zithers has said is irrational. The movie can be entertaining and merit a positive review but still be an overall bad movie on the merits of it's story telling. Especially if the movie is largely focused on setting up future movies.
this is going off of one review, though, out of more than a hundred (both positive and negative), and idk if that's enough for us to go off of.

like, we don't know anything about this reviewer or their strengths/weaknesses in their profession, or how objective they try to be.

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Zithers
11/09/22 1:20:31 AM
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that is four different reviews btw

one from a former av club critic, one from a boston area critic, one from a dude who works at scarecrow, and one from the critic for the telegraph

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g0ldie
11/09/22 1:22:44 AM
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my mistake, I thought you were posting the most pertinent parts of a single review, but still, my post still stands.

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Lonestar2000
11/09/22 1:23:47 AM
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Zithers posted...
i wasn't taking soyface geek critics into account with this fwiw. if you want to include ppl who do free advertising like like slashfilm or comicbook.com or whoever, you can i guess. that is most of RT btw.

i don't do that tho i prefer seeking out critics who actually like and enjoy all kinds of movies instead of just the biggest blockbusters in the world
The copium is strong with this one.

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Halo478
11/09/22 1:26:54 AM
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Dont know why Zithers wants this to fail

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Zithers
11/09/22 1:28:13 AM
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g0ldie posted...
my mistake, I thought you were posting the most pertinent parts of a single review, but still, my post still stands.

who are some of your fav critics g0ldie

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g0ldie
11/09/22 1:33:10 AM
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tbh, I don't have any.

I don't watch movies as often as I used to, but even when I did, I didn't really follow any reviewers.

I did like Siskel & Ebert (and then Ebert & Roeper) when I was younger, but that was because you could find some entertainment in their show even if you didn't care about the movies they were reviewing.

now it's just a bunch of YouTube reviewers that I can't keep track of, and I don't care enough to read through some rando's article.

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Zithers
11/09/22 1:35:39 AM
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youtube reviewers seem pretty universally terrible

that chris stuckmann guy has like 2m subscribers and probably has a significantly wider reach than jake cole or jessica kiang or k austin collins

very depressing!

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Blue_Inigo
11/09/22 1:53:52 AM
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@zithers
@disney_dave

Believe in Coogler. He won't fuck this up

Also what are the lb people saying

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Zithers
11/09/22 1:55:18 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
@zithers
@disney_dave

Believe in Coogler. He won't fuck this up

Also what are the lb people saying

OP is the lb people bro - not looking good - scary

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Disney_Dave
11/09/22 1:57:17 AM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
@zithers
@disney_dave

Believe in Coogler. He won't fuck this up

Also what are the lb people saying


Planning on seeing it Thursday. Hoping for the best
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Zithers
11/09/22 2:00:12 AM
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cap you rolling out for the fabelmans this weekend?

spielberg as a kid making the movies and being sad about his parents always fighting, david lynch playing john ford - cinema

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VampireCoyote
11/09/22 2:01:10 AM
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I like the MCU a lot but I just dont have much excitement for any of the upcoming movies, especially after how goofy Love and Thunder ended up being

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Blue_Inigo
11/09/22 10:14:37 AM
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Gonna lose all faith in cinema if this is bad

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Questionmarktarius
11/09/22 10:25:10 AM
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Looks like it's fallen into the capeshit trap of too much going on at once.
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ZevLoveDOOM
11/09/22 10:29:59 AM
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after how average Love And Thunder was, i think im done with watching MCU movies in theaters...
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SwayM
11/09/22 10:39:33 AM
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Lol you couldnt have made it any more obvious you cherry picked these reviews from people who seem to not like MCU movies in general.

What a joke of a topic.

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Zithers
11/09/22 2:03:52 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Gonna lose all faith in cinema if this is bad

come back cap

SwayM posted...
Lol you couldnt have made it any more obvious you cherry picked these reviews from people who seem to not like MCU movies in general.

What a joke of a topic.

which critics like the good mcu movies and which like the bad mcu movies iyo? maybe we can only trust them.

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Cuticrusader09
11/09/22 2:04:44 PM
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ZevLoveDOOM posted...
after how average Love And Thunder was, i think im done with watching MCU movies in theaters...
Same. I can wait for them to get on Disney+
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Flockaveli
11/09/22 2:05:29 PM
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All superhero movies is the same.
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_MorningStar
11/09/22 2:07:31 PM
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Tbqhysgb

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Zithers
11/09/22 3:31:16 PM
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FhJeygAWYAACsyC?format=jpg&name=large

@blue_inigo

dont disappoint children

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Zithers
11/10/22 1:37:00 PM
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Three days later, WAKANDA FOREVER just feels like a big pile of stuff. I could not be more bored or burnt out on the whole tired, unwieldy MCU enterprise.

sad!

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