Board 8 > [BOST6] Best OST Contest 6 ~*~Results & Discussion~*~

(+) Yeah! (+)

New Cognito > BLUE REFLECTION (16>13)

Town - Sunlight on the Water (Super Arrange Version) < To Far Away Times (9<22)

Scary!

Snubs Champion
To Grasp Tomorrow > Waltz of Nature (18>12)

Congrats to Trails of Cold Steel from the very famous Legacy of Heroes series! I'm sure Rean Coldsteel is very happy about this win

Poem < Battlefield - The First Campaign (9<20)

BOST 5 > BOST 6 (x > x-2)

alright it's agreed bost 6 was a mistake the finals are CANCELED

woo

Does this mean you won't expand the bracket to 128 for 2023? And add double elimination for snubs?

PIayer_0 posted...

Does this mean you won't expand the bracket to 128 for 2023? And add double elimination for snubs?

the bracket will be expanded to five games and games will be eliminated immediately upon getting into the contest

radical bost revamp for next time will actually remove every part of it besides nominations

Corridors of Time > Unrest - The End of the Raging Waves (26>8)
Secret of the Forest > Labyrinth VI - The Vengeful God in the Dark Ocean Abyss (18>13)
Undersea Palace > Unrest - Their Own Brand of Justice (19>14)

Chrono Trigger > Etrian Odyssey III (3>0)

A clean Chrono Trigger sweep. Congrats to your BOST 6 champion!

A bit disappointing, but CT's the only nom that's gotten into every BOST bracket so it seemed bound to win eventually. Nice to see Vengeful God do okay against a VGMC 16 near-champion!

I had no idea going into this contest that what I was nominating had already been in every previous BOST. I expected it to also be out by R3. I guess luck was on my side!
Congrats to both finalists! EO3 also gets bonus points though for having one of my favorite discoveries: Sunlight on the Water (arranged version).

Other favorite discoveries include (but aren't limited to): Archange (AC7), Castanets (RO2), Running to Horizon (Enthusia), and When the Heart Ignites (WA 5).

Somehow of the five favorite discoveries I mentioned above, three were beaten by my own nomination, marking the second contest in a row my nomination beats a favorite discovery (the first time was vgmc 16 with Shevat from Xenogears being my favorite discovery that got beaten by DKC's Aquatic Ambiance in round 4). That's wild.

Thank you for the contest, NFUN!

Thanks for hosting this, NFUN! (even if I lost all enthusiasm after the losses of Gates to Infinity and Sigma Harmonics) I enjoyed all the new music. There are several VGMC nomination possibilities from matches this contest, plus more among unused music in setlists.

Yes, thanks a lot to NFUN and everyone who helped day to day, this was fun!

Thank you NFUN for another BOST added to the history books! I'm sure it was exhausting managing tiebreakers and rolling songs correctly for both a double elimination bracket and snubs bracket. I was surprised to see both BR and EO3 do well - hopefully my sets got people interested in two of my favourite VGM franchises! Fun fact: If you were active this BOST, you've basically heard how the BR soundtrack begins (BLUE REFLECTION, I (sun), Aruella) and ends (Sayonara -Kami Musubi-, Sayonara -Ame No Minaka Nushi-, BLUE REFLECTION (END Edit))

Closing thoughts: I got pretty bored after round 2 or so. BOST just feels like a lesser version of VGMC, and the fact that we've expanded to a 256-song bracket, 64-song double elimination, and 64-song snubs in one year doesn't help. BOST can't claim to accurately determine the best OST in the way that VGMC does for songs (barring a massive time investment), so it's got to differentiate itself in other ways. I like the idea of it taking on a fun and experimental identity in contrast to VGMC, for example if matches rolled a random song from the entire soundtrack or it was any other format than a 1v1 elimination bracket. I'm an NBA fan where the same teams tend to be good year after year, but I also love the randomness of the NFL (best-of-one playoffs, overtime coin flips, missed calls swinging a game). Both are fun to get invested in, and I would really enjoy BOST as a zany cousin to VGMC instead of having a similar format, a lot of the same songs, and no grand sense of satisfaction at the end.

Granted, I'm sure newcomers have the energy for four VGMCs a year if they wanted, but I hope for these contests to hold interest year after year without relying on perpetual new voters.

> BOST can't claim to accurately determine the best OST in the way that VGMC does for songs
I don't even think vgmc accurately determines the "best" song as some winners have been polarizing (vgmc 13) and others or at least other "retirees" as they're called have been beaten by "non-retirees" in BOST before (see the Meta Knight's Revenge vs Persephone matchup). This means that just because something isn't retired, that doesn't mean it's not as good of a song as any given retiree. A lot of vgmc (and BOST), despite seeding, does somewhat depend on luck to an extent. I guess you could argue that vgmc is more accurate of the voters' true opinions on the contestants, but it is far from perfectly accurate either.

> if matches rolled a random song from the entire soundtrack
This may arguably lead to more accurate results, but at the same time, it might not. This could also become even more reliant on luck; what if OST that is clearly preferred rolls its absolute weakest song against an obviously less preferred OST's strongest song? Chances are, the less preferred OST will win. Then again, I guess there's no real perfect formula to this. The most accurate way to determine this would be to force everyone to listen to the entire OST of every song in the bracket then vote on the OSTs as a whole alone, but that's obviously way too time consuming. I'd also argue that finding every single piece from an OST in order to have them compete in the bracket then making sure each piece has a YT upload would also be too tedious especially considering how often vgm gets taken down from YT.

Waveshine_2001 posted...

> BOST can't claim to accurately determine the best OST in the way that VGMC does for songs
I don't even think vgmc accurately determines the "best" song as some winners have been polarizing (vgmc 13) and others or at least other "retirees" as they're called have been beaten by "non-retirees" in BOST before (see the Meta Knight's Revenge vs Persephone matchup). This means that just because something isn't retired, that doesn't mean it's not as good of a song as any given retiree. A lot of vgmc (and BOST), despite seeding, does somewhat depend on luck to an extent. I guess you could argue that vgmc is more accurate of the voters' true opinions on the contestants, but it is far from perfectly accurate either.

Player was specifically talking about the winner, not retirees in general.

MacArrowny posted...

Player was specifically talking about the winner, not retirees in general.

Ah okay. Though as I said before, I'd argue even the winner isn't determined by entirely fair means. I suppose that can't be helped though.