Current Events > Super Mario Odyssey is over 5 years old, and we still don't even have a snippet

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of the next 3d mario game. I haven't even heard "rumors."

I used to want, and believe in SMO2, but direct sequels in the 3D Mario series have a relatively quick turnaround with SMG-SMG2 and 3D Land - 3D World not being too massive of gaps. Now I think SMO2 is unlikely despite it being the top-selling 3D Mario of all time. In all honesty, I speedran that game so much, that I want a new experience entirely at this point anyways (not that I'd be disappointed with a sequel of course).

Additionally, it almost would seem strange to release a huge 3D Mario game this late in the Switch's lifespan as it feels like they might as well save it for the next console, but I guess you could say the same thing about BotW2 and that's coming out next year when the Switch is over 6 years old.

I know this may be "boring" but I'd like a fully-explorable, one-map Mushroom Kingdom/Koopa Kingdom, no loading whatsoever. And when I say Mushroom Kingdom, I mean the colorful kingdom in the 2d Mario games that SM64 failed to recreate and set the standard of plain grass. Imagine an open-world adventure platformer with the Mario hills, happy clouds, and all.

I hated Odyssey

BurmesePenguin posted...

I hated Odyssey

No accounting for shit taste lol.

BurmesePenguin posted...

I hated Odyssey

Reported.

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Mario Galaxy was the only time we got more then one new 3d Mario in a generation wasnt it

Chris Pratt Super 3D World

Makeveli_lives posted...

Mario Galaxy was the only time we got more then one new 3d Mario in a generation wasnt it

Depends. It's the only console to get 2 original 3d Mario games, although many would consider the DS/Wii as one generation of Nintendo and the 3DS and Wii U as another generation.

If you do it by that, the DS/Wii had 3 (if you include 64 DS since that was a pretty unique remake) and the 3DS/Wii U had 2 (3D Land and its sequel: 3D World).

It seems the strategy Nintendo wanted to implement was a "put a 3d Mario on the handheld and a 3d on the home console," but since the Switch has consolidated the handheld and home console divisions, they had to abandon that approach.

Sky, Ruined, and Delfino kingdom should have been DLC

Thats not how 80/80 works

But you knew that so heres the attention you needed

We have gotten Bowser's Fury (and 3DW Switch does play sorta differently, even if it's just a remaster), so that's something

mehmeh1 posted...

We have gotten Bowser's Fury (and 3DW Switch does play sorta differently, even if it's just a remaster), so that's something

Yeah I guess they thought that, NSMBU and Mario Maker 2 was all enough.

I think we'll probably get the next major Mario game as a Switch 2 launch game.

I think the difference with BOTW2 is that it was supposed to be out by now.

I felt Odyssey was the ending to the Mario/Bowser saga.

rexcrk posted...

Thats not how 80/80 works

But you knew that so heres the attention you needed

uhm, nah, 80/80 is just a way to let people know that you weren't able to finish your topic title because it got cut off, lmao. I'm here to talk Mario.

PowerOats posted...

Sky, Ruined, and Delfino kingdom should have been DLC

Eh, sky and ruined were just meant to be set pieces for boss-fights, so I think of them as that. Ruined kingdom probably would have been a good area to have boos, which were strangely missing, but it's whatever.

Delfino, though, there was an incredible amount of speculation and "evidence" that not getting it did really suck. Would have been cool to run around Delfino Plaza with Odyssey movement and have a bunch of Sunshine-themed levels in the warp-areas.

For as well as Odyssey did, the fact that Nintendo did not sell any DLC is actually kinda impressive, and maybe even nice that they were confident they gave us a full experience that needed no extras (beyond the free updates). Honestly, there have been many games they could have gotten away with selling DLC such as the Mario Party games, that they haven't done so for.

RISEofCHRISTIAN posted...

I felt Odyssey was the ending to the Mario/Bowser saga.

Nah, Bowser and Mario's rivalry, even if they can be friendly, will go on forever. I think the ending of Odyssey was misconstrued and taken more seriously than it was supposed to be, lol. Every other piece of Mario media still likes to paint Mario and Peach together, so it's not something Nintendo disapproves of.

Sunshine was revealed at Spaceworld 2001 five years and two months after 64's release so unless Nintendo drops news within the next few weeks, this has to be the longest they've gone between 3D Mario platformers without even a hint of news..

Background_Guy posted...

Sunshine was revealed at Spaceworld 2001 five years and two months after 64's release so unless Nintendo drops news within the next few weeks, this has to be the longest they've gone between 3D Mario platformers without even a hint of news..

If they have a new Mario announcement to make it's for sure happening at TGA

Background_Guy posted...

Sunshine was revealed at Spaceworld 2001 five years and two months after 64's release so unless Nintendo drops news within the next few weeks, this has to be the longest they've gone between 3D Mario platformers without even a hint of news..

I'm extremely curious what the development time is more than anything at this point. I was under the impression that when you have a series like the main Mario series (aka, 3D Mario's at this point), you start working on the next game pretty much immediately after you are done with the last game. Now, by work, I'm sure this means "brainstorming" which I'm not going to even act like I know how long that takes before you actually start the process of coding. I have to imagine some form of work has been going on with 3D Mario since at least 2018, whatever that may be.

It made sense with how long it took from SMW (being the last major 2D Mario before 3D even if technically Yoshi's Island is the "sequel" to it) to SM64 to SMS and even to SMG as each subsequent game represented a large leap in technology. Ever since the HD era, though, that leap is seeing diminishing returns. 3D World to Odyssey took less than 4 years (and might have been even sooner if Odyssey wasn't meant to be a year-one title for the Switch).

Wouldn't surprise me if it got revealed after the movie releases.

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Worlds were too small for the most part with entirely too many stars. Id rather they go back to a reasonable number of collectives for one on a couple different worlds and be done with it.

Makeveli_lives posted...

Worlds were too small for the most part with entirely too many stars. Id rather they go back to a reasonable number of collectives for one on a couple different worlds and be done with it.

Horrible opinion. No one is forcing you to collect power moons, and you only need 124 to beat the game.

Furthermore, SM64 and SMS had way too many "repeat what you just did" and "open a box" for its limited 120 stars. At least SMG's stars were more substantial for what it was going for. Odyssey has a ton of different type of activities that a limited number would hinder. It has moons that allow novices to not feel frustrated, and it has moons that scratches that itch that experienced players would like to see.

I am pretty confident that they can do no wrong as far as 3D Mario is concerned. I've never played 3D Land and I know that one has some mixed reception, but it's unfair to compare a game stuck on the 3DS to ones that are on actual consoles anyway.

Odyssey 2 would be great for two major reasons I think. One is that Odyssey is the absolute pinnacle of Mario's movement abilities. It is by far the most fluid feeling 3D Mario game. Whatever the next game is, it needs to build off of that first and foremost. The other is that Cappy is an excellent mechanic that gives you near endless possibilities. The Mario universe has so many enemies that could be potential captures. There are lot of creative things they could do.

I don't know how I feel about Odyssey. There is a good game in there but it feels so lifeless and bland, and it is so fucking short. I feel like the only world they put a lot of effort into was New Donk City. It's like most of their budget went into that level, including for advertising the game.

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I am pretty confident that they can do no wrong as far as 3D Mario is concerned. I've never played 3D Land and I know that one has some mixed reception, but it's unfair to compare a game stuck on the 3DS to ones that are on actual consoles anyway.

Odyssey 2 would be great for two major reasons I think. One is that Odyssey is the absolute pinnacle of Mario's movement abilities. It is by far the most fluid feeling 3D Mario game. Whatever the next game is, it needs to build off of that first and foremost. The other is that Cappy is an excellent mechanic that gives you near endless possibilities. The Mario universe has so many enemies that could be potential captures. There are lot of creative things they could do.

I dont think 3D Land really had mixed reception. Its a great game, just that World is more polished.

3D Land was a fantastic game. I'd say the main issue was that 3D World didn't really do much different.

Why would nintendo make a new game when they can add a 3 hour expansion to an old game and sell it for full price again

PowerOats posted...

Sky, Ruined, and Delfino kingdom should have been DLC

And SubCon and Sarasaland.

Super_Slash posted...

I don't know how I feel about Odyssey. There is a good game in there but it feels so lifeless and bland, and it is so fucking short. I feel like the only world they put a lot of effort into was New Donk City. It's like most of their budget went into that level, including for advertising the game.

More awful taste lol.

PiOverlord posted...

uhm, nah, 80/80 is just a way to let people know that you weren't able to finish your topic title because it got cut off, lmao. I'm here to talk Mario.

lmao