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Ruvan22
12/08/22 6:31:58 PM
#52:


DystopiaMan posted...
No I don't.

Why do you believe the bakery should be able to refuse service to gay people?

DystopiaMan posted...
I was for the bakery being able to refuse the couple.
And I am fine with this restaurant refusing this couple too, and hope they tell all their friends and this restaurant gets alot less customers.

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Kloe_Rinz
12/08/22 6:33:53 PM
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Its hard to feel bad about a group of religious people getting dished back what they dish out
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Ruvan22
12/08/22 6:34:45 PM
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DystopiaMan posted...
How did they know their political beliefs then?

I assume by Googling the name of the group (Family Foundation) that made the reservation?

https://www.familyfoundation.org/

A restaurant in Richmond, Virginia, refused to host a private event for a conservative Christian organization over the group's position on same-sex marriage and abortion rights.
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InTheEyesOfFire
12/08/22 6:35:36 PM
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Nirvanas_Nox posted...
It's seriously disturbing that they are trying to compare this to Jim crow era bs. It's sooo not the same.


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Bad_Mojo
12/08/22 6:44:49 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...


you think a restaurant should be allowed to turn away someone for being black? totally not cool. there's a good reason we disallow discrimination based on "protected classes".

No. What I mean is that I don't think it should be up to the government to decide that, it should be one of those public things. Like, I would be okay for women to have a place where only women can go so they can just go out and chill without having to deal with people coming up to them and bugging them for a date. Would you think this is okay? I think a lot of people would think that's okay. A public opinion. I don't the public opinion here in Portland would let a racist place to show up like that, it wouldn't last an hour

But I'm living in a fantasy world in my head where nothing bad can go wrong, and having a system like that just doesn't work.

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Ruvan22
12/08/22 6:47:50 PM
#57:


Bad_Mojo posted...
No. What I mean is that I don't think it should be up to the government to decide that, it should be one of those public things. Like, I would be okay for women to have a place where only women can go so they can just go out and chill without having to deal with people coming up to them and bugging them for a date. Would you think this is okay? I think a lot of people would think that's okay. A public opinion. I don't the public opinion here in Portland would let a racist place to show up like that, it wouldn't last an hour

But I'm living in a fantasy world in my head where nothing bad can go wrong, and having a system like that just doesn't work.

So you feel the laws passed during the civil rights era were mistakes? Or are you saying that *now* such laws are not needed?
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Bad_Mojo
12/08/22 6:59:42 PM
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Ruvan22 posted...
So you feel the laws passed during the civil rights era were mistakes? Or are you saying that *now* such laws are not needed?

I'm saying I dream a world that can't exist. Those laws are in place for a reason. However, these sort of laws always come with double standards. It's like the free speech law. I'm 100% okay with people getting fired for saying horrible shit, that's one of those fuck around and find out things I'm talking about with this hypercritical place that won't serve certain people. If those places are run by horrible people, they will lose that place because the public will not give them money and buy their shit. Just like your boss will fire you for saying horrible shit, even though you're not breaking a law doing so.

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Ruvan22
12/08/22 7:11:31 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
I'm saying I dream a world that can't exist. Those laws are in place for a reason. However, these sort of laws always come with double standards. It's like the free speech law. I'm 100% okay with people getting fired for saying horrible shit, that's one of those fuck around and find out things I'm talking about with this hypercritical place that won't serve certain people. If those places are run by horrible people, they will lose that place because the public will not give them money and buy their shit. Just like your boss will fire you for saying horrible shit, even though you're not breaking a law doing so.

So the bakery would go out of business in your dream world, but they aren't in the real world, so you feel the laws "are there for a reason"?

(Also on a separate note - my completely non empirical impression is that losing your job for offensive language is much more likely to happen than a business going bankrupt because of being 'horrible people' running it...)
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sevihaimerej
12/08/22 7:26:58 PM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
Computers dont discriminate
Yet

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Collat
12/08/22 7:42:26 PM
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So yes.
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Zikten
12/09/22 2:59:36 AM
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how sweet it is
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gatorsPENSbucs
12/09/22 7:43:47 AM
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Giant_Aspirin
12/09/22 10:14:34 AM
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discrimination is already against the law when it's based on a 'protected class'. my apologies if you knew that already.

gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Your obsession with me is flattering.

quite telling that you ignored the questions i posed at you.

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Ruvan22
12/09/22 10:48:04 AM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...


quite telling that you ignored the questions i posed at you.

I mean it's par for the course for Gator....
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Lil_Bit83
12/09/22 11:19:28 AM
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In a better society, these people would take this as a lesson to treat others better. Because they're self righteous blowhards with less self awareness then a spoiled toddler, they'll whine about what a poor persecuted minority they are.

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Popcorn2000
12/09/22 11:21:30 AM
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crazygamer21 posted...
Of course the Christian group is using this publicity to beg for money. Shameless
I hope they burn in hell
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Calwings
12/09/22 11:27:44 AM
#70:


Conflict posted...
Refusing someone service for something involuntary (sexual orientation) is worlds different from refusing someone service for something voluntary (their beliefs that people of certain sexual orientations are inferior)

Giant_Aspirin posted...
100% agree that this should happen more often. disagree that the laws should be updated to prevent this type of discrimination. bigotry should not ever become a 'protected class'. we should always be free to reject people and discriminate against them based on abhorrent choices they have made. you make a choice to be part of a group that advocates bigotry? GTFO and stay out.

This. Bigotry is always a choice, and it's a choice that should be actively discouraged via societal rejection.

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BearlyWilling
12/09/22 11:31:18 AM
#71:


Fair, next. Get bent, religious nutjobs.

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Interstella5555
12/09/22 11:40:21 AM
#72:


DystopiaMan posted...
I was for the bakery being able to refuse the couple.
And I am fine with this restaurant refusing this couple too, and hope they tell all their friends and this restaurant gets alot less customers.

Let me guess, you're all for prayer in schools, use the term "groomer" unironically AND support the Catholic church getting millions in federal aid to cover up their rampant sexual abuse.
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Ruvan22
12/09/22 6:30:02 PM
#73:


Ruvan22 posted...
Why do you believe the bakery should be able to refuse service to gay people?

Ruvan22 posted...
I assume by Googling the name of the group (Family Foundation) that made the reservation?

https://www.familyfoundation.org/

A restaurant in Richmond, Virginia, refused to host a private event for a conservative Christian organization over the group's position on same-sex marriage and abortion rights.

@DystopiaMan ?
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EyeWontBeFooled
12/09/22 6:48:39 PM
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*Denies service due to bigotry and discriminatory practices* I sleep.

*faces foreseeable consequence of said behavior*

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DystopiaMan
12/09/22 11:03:28 PM
#75:


Interstella5555 posted...
Let me guess, you're all for prayer in schools, use the term "groomer" unironically AND support the Catholic church getting millions in federal aid to cover up their rampant sexual abuse.

Let me guess.... you stereotype people alot.

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Nosferatu_Zodd
12/09/22 11:15:38 PM
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Chadawah
12/09/22 11:48:13 PM
#77:


DystopiaMan posted...
Let me guess.... you stereotype people alot.
Answer the question
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Ruvan22
12/10/22 2:14:52 AM
#78:


DystopiaMan posted...
Let me guess.... you stereotype people alot.
You missed or ignored my response?
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