Poll of the Day > football player tackled in todays game reportedly died from the tackle

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Hard_Light
01/02/23 9:23:33 PM
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holy shit that was wild to watch

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Hard_Light
01/02/23 9:24:32 PM
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https://twitter.com/SonofHas/status/1610095416522973184

this was the hit

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dragon504
01/02/23 9:25:30 PM
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There's been some speculation about death, but no confirmation afaik. Game is currently suspended.

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Hard_Light
01/02/23 9:29:29 PM
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they are saying he apparently has a pulse but he is not breathing

i'm unclear as to how that works but

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ZangsBeard
01/02/23 9:30:48 PM
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Hard_Light posted...
they are saying he apparently has a pulse but he is not breathing

i'm unclear as to how that works but

Hes not breathing on his own: hes on a ventilator.

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dragon504
01/02/23 9:32:53 PM
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They should postpone the game and let the sportscasters go home. Shit is so awkward. Who's gonna wanna keep playing tonight?

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Dikitain
01/02/23 9:34:28 PM
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I have been hearing about a lot of players getting injured this year due to some huge hits. There was the Jets QB who just about got folded in half and had some broken ribs, and the Dolphins QB who has had like 3 concussions this season alone.

I can see them implementing some new rules next season, but I am not sure what they could do.

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ZangsBeard
01/02/23 9:36:21 PM
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Dikitain posted...
I have been hearing about a lot of players getting injured this year due to some huge hits. There was the Jets QB who just about got folded in half and had some broken ribs, and the Dolphins QB who has had like 3 concussions this season alone.

I can see them implementing some new rules next season, but I am not sure what they could do.

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rjsilverthorn
01/02/23 9:45:54 PM
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OK, that is weird. He wasn't tackled, he was the tackler and the impact doesn't look that bad. He gets up after the hit and then just drops like a stone.
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Hard_Light
01/02/23 10:05:19 PM
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he didn't do any tackling, he got slammed into by the carrier

but yeah, people are saying it caused a cardiac arrest, which would explain why he just dropped suddenly after getting up

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Cacciato
01/02/23 10:28:47 PM
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Some doctor already made a video with what he thinks probably happened. Kinda interesting.

https://youtu.be/H-G9mziXL9w
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BigOlePappy
01/02/23 10:35:33 PM
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He's alive as of right now.


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Lordkill
01/02/23 10:43:36 PM
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This is why they should get guaranteed contracts.

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DirtBasedSoap
01/02/23 11:13:07 PM
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awful.

Really makes me question why i even like this sport so much.

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CarefreeDude
01/03/23 1:32:08 AM
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Just wait till the anti vaxxers say the vaccine did it

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faramir77
01/03/23 1:41:37 AM
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CarefreeDude posted...
Just wait till the anti vaxxers say the vaccine did it

I've already seen that excuse.

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Revelation34
01/03/23 3:50:21 AM
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CarefreeDude posted...
Just wait till the anti vaxxers say the vaccine did it


Somebody got suspended for that on here apparently.

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Hard_Light
01/03/23 3:57:27 AM
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good, because anyone who thinks that is a fuckin moron and should be ridiculed

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adjl
01/03/23 8:16:27 AM
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Don't you know that people only started dying for reasons that are difficult to understand at first glance in 2021?

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Hard_Light
01/03/23 10:52:31 AM
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man has another man slam into his chest with a buttload of momentum, inertia, and mass

dude gets hurt from it

those goddamn vaccines

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adjl
01/03/23 1:26:04 PM
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It's because they weaken the immune system. Normally, the body has mechanisms in place to figure out what needs to be kept out, but when you get vaccines telling it everything, the immune system gets lazy and you can't fight off *checks notes* blunt chest trauma like a natural human can.

(/s, for the genuinely clueless)

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InfernalFive
01/03/23 1:34:36 PM
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I feel bad for the player that hit him too. Reactionary idiots blamed him before anything else.

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Far-Queue
01/03/23 1:45:32 PM
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adjl posted...
(/s, for the genuinely clueless)
Thank goodness you tacked this on I was getting really adjltated reading your post

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Yellow
01/03/23 4:01:44 PM
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Wow, my home team killed someone
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Metalsonic66
01/03/23 4:28:36 PM
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We might as well go back to gladiatorial battles

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dioxxys
01/04/23 1:57:11 AM
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He's not dead

He's in critical condition

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35372063/damar-hamlin-family-grateful-support-seeks-prayers

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Hard_Light
01/04/23 4:20:29 AM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
We might as well go back to gladiatorial battles

essentially what american gladiator was

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Far-Queue
01/04/23 5:46:34 AM
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Hard_Light posted...
essentially what american gladiator was
That's why I hated the Ridley Scott Gladiator film - it lacked historical accuracy. Not a shred of Nerf to be found. Russell Crowe never faced his most notorious opponent, Nitro

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InfernalFive
01/04/23 12:53:50 PM
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dioxxys posted...
He's not dead

He's in critical condition

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35372063/damar-hamlin-family-grateful-support-seeks-prayers
He had no heartbeat on the field for a little bit so he was dead. Clinically dead, anyway.

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Yellow
01/04/23 3:59:29 PM
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InfernalFive posted...
He had no heartbeat on the field for a little bit so he was dead. Clinically dead, anyway.
I feel like dead should come when your brain stops, but he was jumping up and down with a stopped heart, which wasn't very dead.
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Hard_Light
01/04/23 5:32:13 PM
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your brain can stop but your heart still keeps you alive

if your heart stops your brain cannot keep you alive

ergo, if your heart stops, you are dead

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InfernalFive
01/04/23 5:42:14 PM
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Yellow posted...
I feel like dead should come when your brain stops, but he was jumping up and down with a stopped heart, which wasn't very dead.
There's a reason why there's the term called braindead and why there's not a term called heartdead. I get what you're saying but the heart is a good bit more important than the brain.

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adjl
01/04/23 6:44:53 PM
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Death isn't nearly the binary situation people like to think it is. There are a whole lot of different metrics that come into play in trying to define it and things can get super vague if you try to drill it down to technicalities. As far as colloquial speech needs to be concerned, if he's still alive now, he wasn't dead.

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ZangsBeard
01/05/23 12:11:09 AM
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Yellow posted...
I feel like dead should come when your brain stops, but he was jumping up and down with a stopped heart, which wasn't very dead.

Welcome to someone who has no idea what theyre talking about and yet feels the utter need to post.

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Krow_Incarnate
01/05/23 2:14:05 AM
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Yellow posted...
I feel like dead should come when your brain stops, but he was jumping up and down with a stopped heart, which wasn't very dead.
That was before the fact.

The full sequence of events is:

> The play where the impact takes place
> Both players get up and start walking away, when Hamlin suddenly collapses
> During the time when he's on the ground and people are trying to address the situation, both CPR and AEDs were administered. He was at some point resuscitated on the field.
> He was then taken via ambulance to the hospital, where they had to resuscitate him again.

Who knows how long his brain went without O2, but he was on the ground for nine minutes. Or that may have been the amount of time he was laying there before he received the CPR.

I know this site can be pretty bleak, but FFS, I'm just going to ask for a bit of optimism here from everyone.

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BlackScythe0
01/05/23 2:18:09 AM
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So I go to work and all my crazy coworkers who were off yesterday are in today blaming it on vaccines. Just when I think they can't shock me anymore.
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Krow_Incarnate
01/05/23 2:26:41 AM
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I've been seeing that all over twitter, YT, and one fucking idiot on the NFLB.

It's sickening. And I don't give a damn if the vaccine is responsible(it's not).

This dude is still in the freakin' hospital fighting for his life. It's not the time to push your shitty political agenda.

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Yellow
01/05/23 4:36:20 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
So I go to work and all my crazy coworkers who were off yesterday are in today blaming it on vaccines. Just when I think they can't shock me anymore.
Challenge their ideas. Some guy I worked with told me the masks did nothing because the virus can enter through holes on the skin, so I was like "I'm pretty sure it's designed to infect through the lungs and won't do anything under your skin" as well as "where did you hear that from can I get a source" and it was just quiet shame

I feel like if you just have a solid understanding about all the horrible diseases vaccines have eliminated you can easily shut down any anti-vaxer, but one issue is most people don't really have that kind of info memorized and ready even though they know what they're hearing is obviously crazy, but it's soo easy to shut someone up if you do, even if it's like 1v4
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Cacciato
01/05/23 5:41:36 AM
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Glad to know if Im injected with COVID I wont get COVID since it was only designed to infect through the lungs. Fuckin Christ.

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Yellow
01/05/23 7:51:45 AM
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Cacciato posted...
Glad to know if Im injected with COVID I wont get COVID since it was only designed to infect through the lungs. Fuckin Christ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2WzkgkufyE

Actually no, you can't become infected with covid from anything other than respiratory. Yes, that's because it was designed (evolved) specifically to infect the lungs. There have been no cases from someone catching covid any other way.

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/coronavirus-disease-2019-covid-19/covid-19-frequently-asked-questions
In general, respiratory viruses are not known to be transmitted by blood transfusion, and there have been no reported cases of transfusion-transmitted coronavirus worldwide.

@Cacciato

You also can't catch it from eating something, touching something, or getting it through a cut. It has to be through the lungs.

At the start of the pandemic we made a big deal out of washing our hands to stop covid, but since then we've learned more about it. You can get long covid symptoms from vaccines, but that's not a real infection, it's your immune response.
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Yellow
01/05/23 8:05:25 AM
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On the other hand if you were injected with a teaspoon of raw liquid covid virus then you might just die
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Monopoman
01/05/23 9:29:05 AM
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Hard_Light posted...
your brain can stop but your heart still keeps you alive

if your heart stops your brain cannot keep you alive

ergo, if your heart stops, you are dead

With the brain stopping we are talking a complete vegetative state after even just a few minutes of having the brain stopped. Even if they can retrigger the brain later, that person might be gone forever as far as being a normal person even if they do live. So sure the heart is more important if we are talking death but if the brain is gone it's just as bad.
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Metalsonic66
01/05/23 12:20:00 PM
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Cacciato posted...
injected with COVID
Yeah you gotta watch out for those guys running around jabbing Covid needles into random strangers

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Far-Queue
01/05/23 12:48:26 PM
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Metalsonic66 posted...
Yeah you gotta watch out for those guys running around jabbing Covid needles into random strangers
You mean Bill Gates?

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BlackScythe0
01/05/23 1:48:26 PM
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Yellow posted...
Challenge their ideas. Some guy I worked with told me the masks did nothing because the virus can enter through holes on the skin, so I was like "I'm pretty sure it's designed to infect through the lungs and won't do anything under your skin" as well as "where did you hear that from can I get a source" and it was just quiet shame

I feel like if you just have a solid understanding about all the horrible diseases vaccines have eliminated you can easily shut down any anti-vaxer, but one issue is most people don't really have that kind of info memorized and ready even though they know what they're hearing is obviously crazy, but it's soo easy to shut someone up if you do, even if it's like 1v4

They stop talking when I walk into a room because I directly challenged them when they were all butt hurt about Biden calling out terrorists. I told them he was calling out people who were terrorists but they were unwilling or unable to see a difference between themselves and the terrorists because they were "trying to give us freedom" like a fascist overthrow of the government was for freedom. They know I'm not interested in their post apocalyptic larp setting, but I still hear it when they're talking.
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Krow_Incarnate
01/05/23 1:51:40 PM
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The team just released an official statement saying the guy is "neurologically intact"

One of his teammates' also came out and said that he's gripping the hands of family members and showing response in general.

I can't begin to tell you how this makes me feel.

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adjl
01/05/23 6:49:26 PM
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Cacciato posted...
Glad to know if Im injected with COVID I wont get COVID since it was only designed to infect through the lungs. Fuckin Christ.

Potentially, yeah. A pathogen that grows on mucus membranes isn't necessarily going to be able to grow in the blood, and it's not like the blood is just going to transport it to its preferred site. I wouldn't recommend trying it, for obvious reasons, but it's completely plausible that it would work that way.

Yellow posted...
In general, respiratory viruses are not known to be transmitted by blood transfusion, and there have been no reported cases of transfusion-transmitted coronavirus worldwide.

It's worth noting that all that means is that receiving a blood transfusion from a Covid-positive donor won't infect the recipient with Covid. Actually injecting Covid into the bloodstream is a different sort of exposure than what those findings address.

Yellow posted...
At the start of the pandemic we made a big deal out of washing our hands to stop covid, but since then we've learned more about it.

That wasn't because there were concerns about it infecting people through their skin. It was because there were concerns about transferring it to the respiratory system from people's hands, trough the mouth, nose, or eyes.

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shadowsword87
01/05/23 7:04:47 PM
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Why the fuck is the topic about vaccines and not player saftey.
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dioxxys
01/05/23 7:14:36 PM
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Krow_Incarnate posted...


One of his teammates' also came out and said that he's gripping the hands of family members and showing response in general.

My grandmother did this also but the doctors said she would never be the same
She always expressed she didnt want to live as a vegetable
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VampireCoyote
01/05/23 7:20:41 PM
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football is a barbaric sport

twisted that so many young kids are encouraged to play it every year

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