Poll of the Day > So any PotDers Hyped for Forspoken?

Topic List
Page List: 1, 2
pionear
01/23/23 10:39:26 AM
#1:


Which One?







Ads are popping up all over the site, and it's one of the few Major AAA titles to Star a Woman of Color as the Main Character.

Any one interested in playing it?
... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus
01/23/23 11:43:13 AM
#2:


I'm interested but I don't have anything to play it on currently. I'm gonna buy it for my brother, though.

---
What's better than roses on your piano?
A pickpocket that snatches y- wait, no... that's not it I messed it up let me try again...
... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan
01/23/23 12:00:40 PM
#3:


The game looks like a parody, straight down to the dialogue. "DID I JUST DO THAT? I JUST MOVED SHIT WITH MY MIND?" Like they're really chasing the MCU audience with this one.
... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup
01/23/23 12:03:08 PM
#4:


Kind of? But I don't expect it to do well. And outside of FF, I'm not really sure what SE is doing anymore, they haven't had a hit in years, and they keep doing all this weird shit nobody asked for.

---
Nintendo Network ID: papercups
3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925
... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan
01/23/23 12:09:59 PM
#5:


papercup posted...
Kind of? But I don't expect it to do well. And outside of FF, I'm not really sure what SE is doing anymore, they haven't had a hit in years, and they keep doing all this weird shit nobody asked for.
I feel like Forspoken was definitely made off the external pressure of non-Japanese markets, considering the protag is from New York. That and it looks to draw heavily from FFXV, so I'm sure they're still trying to recoup from that whole debacle by trying to give what they worked on a bit more life before shelving it permanently.

Too bad they already said XVII is possibly going to be their next MMO. Thank god we have Octopath II coming out. Still not sure why they made that series instead of Bravely Default III, but hey, here we are.
... Copied to Clipboard!
papercup
01/23/23 12:15:24 PM
#6:


Oooh it's also getting meh to bad reviews. :X It's actually worrying how SE makes so many mistakes all the time. I love FF and I don't want to see it disappear because they make so many blunders in other areas.

---
Nintendo Network ID: papercups
3DS FC: 4124 5916 9925
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
01/23/23 12:48:29 PM
#7:


This is the first I'm hearing of it, so probably not any time soon.

---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
wwinterj25
01/23/23 1:24:45 PM
#8:


Not interested at all. From what I've seen the game doesn't look that good.

---
One who knows nothing can understand nothing.
http://psnprofiles.com/wwinterj
... Copied to Clipboard!
Metalsonic66
01/23/23 2:39:34 PM
#9:


The gameplay looked cool but that first teaser was dumb

---
PSN/Steam ID: Metalsonic_69
Big bombs go kabang.
... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackJackCat
01/23/23 3:22:31 PM
#10:


papercup posted...
Oooh it's also getting meh to bad reviews. :X It's actually worrying how SE makes so many mistakes all the time. I love FF and I don't want to see it disappear because they make so many blunders in other areas.

I imagine they can afford the blunders off their flagship brands. Even if people want to say retroactively Final Fantasy games stopped being good past a certain point, they apparently do sell well enough to keep on making them with the same big teams and budgets. Unless somehow Square Enix's investors are collectively trying to do the least intuitive thing possible over and over until they go bankrupt, I don't think they are in in particular danger of going under. There may come a point where they might have to change their model, but apparenlty it works good enough atm.

---
This issues still comes to mind now and then
Cake was baking in the oven and mother was making tea for us
... Copied to Clipboard!
Nichtcrawler-X
01/23/23 4:15:29 PM
#11:


pionear posted...
and it's one of the few Major AAA titles to Star a Woman of Color as the Main Character.

Watched a friend play the demo on stream, did not realize it was a AAA title.

---
Official Teetotaller of PotD
Dovie'andi se tovya sagain!
... Copied to Clipboard!
BigOlePappy
01/23/23 4:22:49 PM
#12:


Why isn't Square as consistent as other companies? I have no idea, but it seems like they take really solid, full-proof ideas, and then they tinker with them until they ruin it.

---
"Oh, you think lag is your ally. You merely adopted lag. I was born in it, molded by it. I didnt have cable until I was already a man."
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
01/23/23 4:25:04 PM
#13:


BlackJackCat posted...
Unless somehow Square Enix's investors are collectively trying to do the least intuitive thing possible over and over until they go bankrupt, I don't think they are in in particular danger of going under.

Bear in mind that this is a company that sold off several major, successful IP's and studios to fund further investment into NFT's and other crypto applications in the middle of last year, by which point the NFT bubble had obviously burst. Their HD games division also turned a loss last year, purely because Avengers was such a train wreck, meaning they would have been profitable had they stuck to what they were good at instead of going balls deep chasing the live service bandwagon. Common sense may be beyond them.

BigOlePappy posted...
Why isn't Square as consistent as other companies? I have no idea, but it seems like they take really solid, full-proof ideas, and then they tinker with them until they ruin it.

Mostly, they've got a lot of development talent on board that knows what they're doing with established IP's and good ideas, but they've got an executive suite that understands pretty much nothing about the products they make and insists on cramming whatever get-rich-quick schemes they can think of into them regardless of how suitable it is. It's a lot of really incompetent executive meddling, propped up by some genuinely talented staff.

---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
BlackJackCat
01/23/23 4:28:11 PM
#14:


adjl posted...
Common sense may be beyond them.

True enough. They do seem to be desperately trying to perfect the formula of ineptitude.

---
This issues still comes to mind now and then
Cake was baking in the oven and mother was making tea for us
... Copied to Clipboard!
DirtBasedSoap
01/23/23 4:40:42 PM
#15:


it looks awful

---
im gay
... Copied to Clipboard!
AltOmega2
01/23/23 5:28:35 PM
#16:


pionear posted...
one of the few Major AAA titles to Star a Woman of Color as the Main Character

Blatant lie but okay, keep grifting or whatever
... Copied to Clipboard!
CornishGhost
01/23/23 5:36:37 PM
#17:


DirtBasedSoap posted...
it looks awful

... Copied to Clipboard!
Zareth
01/23/23 5:53:28 PM
#18:


Everything I've heard about it is negative

---
What would Bligh do?
... Copied to Clipboard!
pionear
01/23/23 6:08:48 PM
#19:


AltOmega2 posted...
Blatant lie but okay, keep grifting or whatever

Can you name any? (Outside of Asian Females)
... Copied to Clipboard!
JigsawTD3
01/23/23 6:26:57 PM
#20:


Im interested in it, but I dont have a PS5 and dont plan to get one anytime soon, so it will probably be at least a couple years before I play it.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125
01/23/23 6:29:42 PM
#21:


Every time I read this title on the front page I see the word foreskin
... Copied to Clipboard!
AltOmega2
01/23/23 8:51:37 PM
#22:


pionear posted...
Can you name any? (Outside of Asian Females)
Alyx
... Copied to Clipboard!
Cacciato
01/24/23 1:01:38 AM
#23:


AltOmega2 posted...
Alyx
He said one of the few and then you name one fucking game. Way to go, champ.
... Copied to Clipboard!
VampireCoyote
01/24/23 2:38:18 AM
#24:


No I heard some of the cutscene dialogue and it sounds way too r/fellowkids for me

---
She/her
... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg
01/24/23 7:41:24 AM
#25:


The Isekai game genre should be more full than it is. Forspoken ain't it.

---
http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
01/24/23 9:02:20 AM
#26:


Blightzkrieg posted...
The Isekai game genre should be more full than it is.

I can kind of understand why it isn't. The mere act of turning on a game is itself kind of an isekai-like experience in that you're immersing yourself in a fantasy world and all the shenanigans that come with it. That means having an explicit isekai step in the game feels kind of redundant and contrived because it usually just ends up being a non-gameplay prologue sequence. The FFT Advance games managed to incorporate gameplay to their prologues in the form of having a snowball fight that acted as a mechanical tutorial before being sucked into the actual game world, but that's about the extent of what you can actually do because the game's actual gameplay is going to depend on the setting of the other world and not the initial one (unless it's a walking simulator, in which case this stops being an issue). Even that just seemed kind of silly and contrived and there's no reason the game couldn't have simply started out in the actual game world and delivered a tutorial there.

Basically, if you're playing a game to be a fantasy hero fighting monsters and stuff, a prologue in which you are not a fantasy hero and cannot fight monsters and stuff until you travel to fantasy hero world is just an extra step before you get to the point.

---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
AltOmega2
01/24/23 9:52:04 AM
#27:


Cacciato posted...
He said one of the few and then you name one fucking game. Way to go, champ.
actually, he asked if I could name "any"
logically, I'd only have to name one to be sufficient
learn 2 read
... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus
01/24/23 10:18:28 AM
#28:


AltOmega2 posted...
actually, he asked if I could name "any"
logically, I'd only have to name one to be sufficient
learn 2 read

pionear posted...
one of the few Major AAA titles to Star a Woman of Color as the Main Character

I mean, ya fuckin' quoted it so I would think you'd know you're wrong but here we are

pionear says this is "one of the few...", you call them a liar, they ask you to name any games, you name one...

If you can only name one other game that pretty much confirms what pionear said, bud. There ain't that many games out there featuring a woman of color as the main character.

Take your own advice and

AltOmega2 posted...
learn 2 fucking read


---
What's better than roses on your piano?
A pickpocket that snatches y- wait, no... that's not it I messed it up let me try again...
... Copied to Clipboard!
AltOmega2
01/24/23 10:42:31 AM
#29:


MeatiestMeatus posted...
I mean, ya fuckin' quoted it so I would think you'd know you're wrong but here we are

pionear says this is "one of the few...", you call them a liar, they ask you to name any games, you name one...

If you can only name one other game that pretty much confirms what pionear said, bud. There ain't that many games out there featuring a woman of color as the main character.

Take your own advice and
once again, learn to read
the post I quoted asked if I could name any so I supplied one which is logically correct; actually it would have been correct for me to just reply yes
pionear posted...
Can you name any? (Outside of Asian Females)

... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus
01/24/23 10:54:49 AM
#30:


AltOmega2 posted...
the post I quoted asked if I could name any so I supplied one which is logically correct; actually it would have been correct for me to just reply yes
That would work in an isolated scenario, but you fail to factor in the catalyst for this conversation where you called pionear a liar for claiming there are only a few main characters who are women of color.

Supplying one example, in this context, is not "logically correct" or "sufficient"

So, again, take your own advice and

AltOmega2 posted...
learn 2 fucking read

and while you're at it learn what context is bud

---
What's better than roses on your piano?
A pickpocket that snatches y- wait, no... that's not it I messed it up let me try again...
... Copied to Clipboard!
AltOmega2
01/24/23 11:00:52 AM
#31:


MeatiestMeatus posted...
That would work in an isolated scenario, but you fail to factor in the catalyst for this conversation where you called pionear a liar for claiming there are only a few main characters who are women of color
Sounds like a lot of cope
Supplying one example, in this context, is not "logically correct" or "sufficient"
Actually it is. I doubt you've ever taken a logic course in your life though.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg
01/24/23 11:04:35 AM
#32:


adjl posted...
I can kind of understand why it isn't. The mere act of turning on a game is itself kind of an isekai-like experience in that you're immersing yourself in a fantasy world and all the shenanigans that come with it. That means having an explicit isekai step in the game feels kind of redundant and contrived because it usually just ends up being a non-gameplay prologue sequence. The FFT Advance games managed to incorporate gameplay to their prologues in the form of having a snowball fight that acted as a mechanical tutorial before being sucked into the actual game world, but that's about the extent of what you can actually do because the game's actual gameplay is going to depend on the setting of the other world and not the initial one (unless it's a walking simulator, in which case this stops being an issue). Even that just seemed kind of silly and contrived and there's no reason the game couldn't have simply started out in the actual game world and delivered a tutorial there.

Basically, if you're playing a game to be a fantasy hero fighting monsters and stuff, a prologue in which you are not a fantasy hero and cannot fight monsters and stuff until you travel to fantasy hero world is just an extra step before you get to the point. The whole "let's watch this character have adventures in a world where they're totally out of their element" aspect that makes isekai an interesting story genre doesn't translate well to games because the player character is as competent in the new setting as the player is and the player is already experiencing the concept of being dropped into a new world that they have to figure out.
The reason Isekai is good is is due to the primal desire inside every human being to breed an exotic foreign princess

---
http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
01/24/23 11:25:26 AM
#33:


AltOmega2 posted...
actually, he asked if I could name "any"
logically, I'd only have to name one to be sufficient

You only have to name one to sufficiently answer the question you were asked. You would, however, have to name considerably more than that to substantiate your initial claim that he was lying to say that few AAA games star women of colour. In truth, he should probably have asked "how many can you name?" to rebut your claim instead of "can you name any?", but the bottom line is that you have still failed to substantiate the claim that began this exchange. No amount of claiming a technical victory in this conversation microcosm is going to change that.

Blightzkrieg posted...
The reason Isekai is good is is due to the primal desire inside every human being to breed an exotic foreign princess

Which any video game can offer without needing to explicitly establish an isekai premise.

---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
AltOmega2
01/24/23 11:47:21 AM
#34:


adjl posted...
the bottom line is that you have still failed to substantiate the claim that began this exchange
good thing that wasn't the argument I was making
... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus
01/24/23 11:51:13 AM
#35:


AltOmega2 posted...
Actually it is. I doubt you've ever taken a logic course in your life though.
Sounds like a lot of being ignorant of context. Doubt you've ever taken a context course in your life.

Take a peep at adjl's post bruh he's better at explaining things than I am but it's same basic point

---
What's better than roses on your piano?
A pickpocket that snatches y- wait, no... that's not it I messed it up let me try again...
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
01/24/23 11:55:59 AM
#36:


AltOmega2 posted...
good thing that wasn't the argument I was making

And yet you made the claim that he lied in the first place. Is this your way of conceding that you were wrong to do so?

---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125
01/24/23 11:58:15 AM
#37:


Wow u guys really are arguing over foreskin in here wild
... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus
01/24/23 12:18:53 PM
#38:


Jen0125 posted...
Wow u guys really are arguing over foreskin in here wild
Those of us who have had ours forcibly removed without our consent when we were newborns harbor deep-seated trauma that I would expect someone as evolved as yourself would understand. Very disappointed Jen thanks for showing your true colors

---
What's better than roses on your piano?
A pickpocket that snatches y- wait, no... that's not it I messed it up let me try again...
... Copied to Clipboard!
Jen0125
01/24/23 1:15:08 PM
#39:


MeatiestMeatus posted...
Those of us who have had ours forcibly removed without our consent when we were newborns harbor deep-seated trauma that I would expect someone as evolved as yourself would understand. Very disappointed Jen thanks for showing your true colors

I always honk in support of the people standing outside with red paint on their crotches and anti circumcision signs tyvm
... Copied to Clipboard!
AltOmega2
01/25/23 9:49:36 AM
#40:


MeatiestMeatus posted...
Sounds like a lot of being ignorant of context. Doubt you've ever taken a context course in your life.

Take a peep at adjl's post bruh he's better at explaining things than I am but it's same basic point
context courses aren't a thing, to my knowledge
plus context is malleable whereas the world doesn't function without logic

adjl posted...
And yet you made the claim that he lied in the first place. Is this your way of conceding that you were wrong to do so?
I still think he's wrong. The protagonist from Beyond Good and Evil is another example, among plenty of others.
But for what he specifically asked me, I answered adequately.
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
01/25/23 9:51:42 AM
#41:


AltOmega2 posted...
I still think he's wrong. The protagonist from Beyond Good and Evil is another example, among plenty of others.
But for what he specifically asked me, I answered adequately.

Okay.

AltOmega2 posted...
Blatant lie but okay, keep grifting or whatever

How many AAA games can you name with a woman of colour as the main character?

---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus
01/25/23 10:15:20 AM
#42:


AltOmega2 posted...
context courses aren't a thing, to my knowledge

Sounds a lot like being ignorant of when someone is making a joke. Doubt you've ever taken a joke course in your life though.

I still think he's wrong.

Think again. Context bruh you're still dropping the ball here

But for what he specifically asked me, answered adequately.

Nope. Again, context bruh. Keep looking into it you'll figure it out eventually I have confidence in you bud

---
What's better than roses on your piano?
A pickpocket that snatches y- wait, no... that's not it I messed it up let me try again...
... Copied to Clipboard!
AltOmega2
01/25/23 3:09:47 PM
#43:


MeatiestMeatus posted...
Sounds a lot like being ignorant of when someone is making a joke.
I hope you think I wasn't making a joke with the logic comment.

adjl posted...
How many AAA games can you name with a woman of colour as the main character?
At least 3
... Copied to Clipboard!
Mensis
01/25/23 3:16:16 PM
#44:


Watched someone play it a bit. Main character is annoying as hell, constantly say fuck cause it's edgy and cool. Story is pretty ass, she wishes to be whisked away from her terrible life it's so bad she's about to commit suicide but then some maguffin whisks her away to a magical land, exactly what she wanted, and then she repeatedly says she just wants to go home. The fuck writers?

---
Stupid Pirate Guy
... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl
01/25/23 4:39:42 PM
#45:


AltOmega2 posted...
At least 3

Sounds like "few" is a pretty sensible way to describe that quantity, then.

---
This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.
... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg
01/25/23 5:14:43 PM
#46:


Mario, one of the most famous characters ever, is almost a black woman

---
http://i.imgur.com/1XbPahR.png
... Copied to Clipboard!
SoreChasm
01/25/23 5:39:31 PM
#47:


Blightzkrieg posted...
Mario, one of the most famous characters ever, is almost a black woman
qft

---
Never be afraid to show your emotions, even if they're fake.
... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus
01/25/23 5:42:04 PM
#48:


adjl posted...
Sounds like "few" is a pretty sensible way to describe that quantity, then.
Sure is.

And the sooner Mr Logic comes to terms with the fact that they were wrong to jump on pionear's case about it, the sooner we can move on from repeatedly dunking on them and laughing at their continued failed deflection

---
What's better than roses on your piano?
A pickpocket that snatches y- wait, no... that's not it I messed it up let me try again...
... Copied to Clipboard!
AltOmega2
01/25/23 7:15:44 PM
#49:


MeatiestMeatus posted...
Sure is.

And the sooner Mr Logic comes to terms with the fact that they were wrong to jump on pionear's case about it, the sooner we can move on from repeatedly dunking on them and laughing at their continued failed deflection
you still on about that? you literally cannot defy logic, dude

adjl posted...
Sounds like "few" is a pretty sensible way to describe that quantity, then.
Fine then, four. Now its several
... Copied to Clipboard!
MeatiestMeatus
01/25/23 8:17:20 PM
#50:


AltOmega2 posted...
you literally cannot defy logic, dude
You can when someone is using "logic" in bad faith, propped up by semantics and ignoring the greater context

C'mon bud I know you're struggling to wrap your head around this but you'll get it eventually bro I know you can do it

---
What's better than roses on your piano?
A pickpocket that snatches y- wait, no... that's not it I messed it up let me try again...
... Copied to Clipboard!
Topic List
Page List: 1, 2