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TeaMilk
01/27/23 2:58:58 AM
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i've struggled immensely forming relationships since high school (im 27), but i feel like i could possibly have a chance here and i want advice so i dont fuck up

so there was this guy at my job who was pretty nice to me, and around my age, and seemed similarly socially awkward but maybe im projecting. We chatted a couple times about video games/anime shit, and i always wanted to talk more but it was kinda hard to socialize because we all work from home.

anyway he left the company a few months ago, and i was too pussy to go to his goodbye lunch and i regret it so much. he sent me some nice messages about how it was too bad we never got to meet in person and how i should hit him up if i ever want to get lunch, and i felt sooo fuckin bad about it :((

i gathered the balls to email him on new years to say 'hey whats up', and we exchanged a few emails. he said we should play some multiplayer games sometime, and we added each other on steam & switch, but we dont have any games in common >_>

so now i'm like. what are my next steps? I've been invisible on steam because im afraid to talk to him, and idk what to say since we don't have anything (multiplayer) in common. He plays like uhh fighting games and apex legends, i honestly don't play much of anything on PC anymore

also his steam name is a rick & morty reference. advice?

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Waddlez
01/27/23 3:03:26 AM
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Yo bro. Lunch?

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itachi15243
01/27/23 3:03:51 AM
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I'd say you best bet is to see if you can still take him up on that lunch proposal for starters. An in face meeting is going to do a lot more than hopefully finding something in common on steam.

Maybe you could also look for something both of you might like but haven't tried yet to play too

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TeaMilk
01/27/23 3:09:57 AM
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itachi15243 posted...
I'd say you best bet is to see if you can still take him up on that lunch proposal for starters. An in face meeting is going to do a lot more than hopefully finding something in common on steam.

Maybe you could also look for something both of you might like but haven't tried yet to play too
im gonna be honest, i just don't think i'm ready for a one-on-one meeting irl yet. I haven't 'hung out' with anyone irl in YEARS, and i kinda freak out in one-on-one conversations if we're not familiar. He also doesn't know I'm in a wheelchair so that kind of adds to my anxiety about meeting people irl

yeah i think i could try chatting to him about trying to find a new game together sometime? i think once i talk to him some more and it goes well, id be willing to try something irl

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AldousIsDead
01/27/23 3:13:33 AM
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Pick a survival game or something if he's into it, that gives you hours to talk to him in a busy enough setting that you can hopefully ignore your anxiety and focus on the game.

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dioxxys
01/27/23 3:15:50 AM
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If you worked together how's he not know you have a wheel chair?

I really think coffee or lunch around be great

But if you so focused on the gaming aspect, you got to be willing to get into games you might not be into OR .. he does. Try playing some Minecraft or Stardew Valley?
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Norman_Smiley
01/27/23 3:20:23 AM
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Ask him to come over to play some GameCube and drinks natty ice.

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TeaMilk
01/27/23 3:20:28 AM
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dioxxys posted...
If you worked together how's he not know you have a wheel chair?

I really think coffee or lunch around be great

But if you so focused on the gaming aspect, you got to be willing to get into games you might not be into OR .. he does. Try playing some Minecraft or Stardew Valley?
it's been fully remote since I joined cuz COVID, and it'll probably stay that way

yeah i'd definitely be willing to try something new, i'm just not sure how to start the conversation. I love stuff like stardew valley and terraria, but i wouldn't wanna bore him

AldousIsDead posted...
Pick a survival game or something if he's into it, that gives you hours to talk to him in a busy enough setting that you can hopefully ignore your anxiety and focus on the game.
yeah that's a good idea, i used to play terraria a lot so maybe i could suggest that, i'd buy it for him. i think he had 'don't starve' in his library too, haven't played that one myself

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dioxxys
01/27/23 3:26:46 AM
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TeaMilk posted...
it's been fully remote since I joined cuz COVID, and it'll probably stay that way

yeah i'd definitely be willing to try something new, i'm just not sure how to start the conversation. I love stuff like stardew valley and terraria, but i wouldn't wanna bore him
I don't claim to speak for all gamer guys, but a lot of us would just be thrilled to talk to a girl. You are right? We would even try out stuff we wouldn't normally. So go for it!

Don't starve is so much fun
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TeaMilk
01/27/23 3:33:39 AM
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dioxxys posted...
I don't claim to speak for all gamer guys, but a lot of us would just be thrilled to talk to a girl. You are right? We would even try out stuff we wouldn't normally. So go for it!

Don't starve is so much fun
LMAO well he thinks i'm a girl, so i guess that's effectively the same here. i don't want to assume thats why hes nice to me >_> everyone else on our team at work was a guy, and mostly significantly older than us

Norman_Smiley posted...
Ask him to come over to play some GameCube and drinks natty ice.
fuck i cant even imagine having a friend over here its so fucking messy also cornman lives here and itd be weird right

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Kaiganeer
01/27/23 4:01:38 AM
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TeaMilk posted...
so there was this guy at my job who was pretty nice to me, and around my age, and seemed similarly socially awkward
he's gonna think you're interested in him
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TeaMilk
01/27/23 4:13:23 AM
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Kaiganeer posted...
he's gonna think you're interested in him
:/ why

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dioxxys
01/27/23 5:30:42 AM
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When y'all banging
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LukaDoncic77
01/27/23 5:48:55 AM
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exchange numbers already

you dont necessarily have to talk (you can text!) but at least youll be able to directly reach each other on a whim instead of relying on email and communicating through steam.

you at least have video games in common, though you might not necessarily play the same genres maybe you two can try out a new game whether it be co-op or multiplayer and experience a new game for the first time together. take him up on that offer for lunch, say youre free on x day and maybe we can meet and just take it from there.
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TeaMilk
01/27/23 1:51:16 PM
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dioxxys posted...
When y'all banging
hanging*

DrewAllar posted...
Are you trying to fuck him or just be friends?
as the topic title says, befriends

LukaDoncic77 posted...
exchange numbers already

you dont necessarily have to talk (you can text!) but at least youll be able to directly reach each other on a whim instead of relying on email and communicating through steam.

you at least have video games in common, though you might not necessarily play the same genres maybe you two can try out a new game whether it be co-op or multiplayer and experience a new game for the first time together. take him up on that offer for lunch, say youre free on x day and maybe we can meet and just take it from there.
maybe I have a weird view of it, but exchanging phone #'s with someone always seemed too intimate to me >_> I wouldn't do it with someone new unless they had no other means of contact

Yeah though lunch would be cool eventually if we get along. I am pretty sure he lives close, and I miss hanging out with people irl even if I am very scared

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NoxObscuras
01/27/23 1:58:19 PM
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TeaMilk posted...
im gonna be honest, i just don't think i'm ready for a one-on-one meeting irl yet. I haven't 'hung out' with anyone irl in YEARS, and i kinda freak out in one-on-one conversations if we're not familiar. He also doesn't know I'm in a wheelchair so that kind of adds to my anxiety about meeting people irl
Well why not have cornman come too? Having a familiar face there would make it less awkward, right?

TeaMilk posted...
maybe I have a weird view of it, but exchanging phone #'s with someone always seemed too intimate to me >_> I wouldn't do it with someone new unless they had no other means of contact
I prefer exchanging numbers for keeping in touch just because it's easier to see when I get a new text, vs a new email. Just faster communication.

If that feels too personal though, what about a messenger app like FB Messenger, WhatsApp or Discord?

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TeaMilk
01/27/23 2:08:15 PM
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NoxObscuras posted...
Well why not have cornman come too? Having a familiar face there would make it less awkward, right?
Wouldn't that come off as pretty weird? "yeah let's meet up for lunch, oh and im bringing my BOYFRIEND" I dont necessarily trust my judgement of social norms but I think that has connotations

NoxObscuras posted...
If that feels too personal though, what about a messenger app like FB Messenger, WhatsApp or Discord?
Yeah ill probably try to ask for discord or something when I get a chance

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Crimsoness
01/27/23 2:13:51 PM
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Offer him a friendly kiss on the lips

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StrongAsKong
01/27/23 2:17:29 PM
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"Hey dude, I hang out on the Gamefaqs message board Current Events! Aren't I the coolest?"
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TeaMilk
01/27/23 2:20:46 PM
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Im just venting but it feels like there's so many unwritten rules around social interactions that most other people just understand, and im going to make the wrong choices and fuck it up and look weird. I like the idea of having friends, but ive avoided opportunities for social interaction much of my adult life because of these fears. The few times I have put myself out there (going to extracurricular clubs in college, etc.) I just feel really scared/uncomfortable and don't make any progress

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TeaMilk
01/27/23 2:21:50 PM
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[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

What games u got

Crimsoness posted...
Offer him a friendly kiss on the lips
What if he's stinky. Or im stinky

StrongAsKong posted...
"Hey dude, I hang out on the Gamefaqs message board Current Events! Aren't I the coolest?"
I would not be too surprised if he had a gamefaqs account lol

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powpow999
01/27/23 2:23:59 PM
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Id say start playing apex,, but uh, who enjoys shooting someone with 70 bullets before they die. Sorry, I dont have much advice to give besides trying to adopt a game he plays.
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Bibimbap
01/27/23 2:27:49 PM
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TeaMilk posted...
Wouldn't that come off as pretty weird? "yeah let's meet up for lunch, oh and im bringing my BOYFRIEND" I dont necessarily trust my judgement of social norms but I think that has connotations


If this guy doesn't know you have a boyfriend, he's going to think you're hitting on him or that you're at least interested. If you spring the "Oh, I have a boyfriend" on him later, that would be more weird, IMO. He'd probably also wonder why you're hitting him up to hang out without your boyfriend around. I would think maybe you're fighting with your boyfriend or something. I've been in these kinds of situations, and they're always confusing as the man in the situation lol.

Unless he's not attracted to you at all or is just one of those guys who doesn't mind being friends with girls, he might lose interest in hanging out when he finds out you have a boyfriend. Every guy is different obviously.

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NoxObscuras
01/27/23 2:43:04 PM
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TeaMilk posted...
Wouldn't that come off as pretty weird? "yeah let's meet up for lunch, oh and im bringing my BOYFRIEND" I dont necessarily trust my judgement of social norms but I think that has connotations
Well if the intention is to be completely platonic, you should, at the very least, mention that you have a boyfriend.

If he interested in dating you, that will let him know that you're not available. If he doesn't want to date you, then your boyfriend shouldn't bother him.

I'd just frame it as a request. Something like "Do you mind if my boyfriend comes with us for lunch? I think you'd get along with him too."

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Ruvan22
01/27/23 2:44:26 PM
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Bibimbap posted...
If this guy doesn't know you have a boyfriend, he's going to think you're hitting on him or that you're at least interested. If you spring the "Oh, I have a boyfriend" on him later, that would be more weird, IMO. He'd probably also wonder why you're hitting him up to hang out without your boyfriend around. I would think maybe you're fighting with your boyfriend or something. I've been in these kinds of situations, and they're always confusing as the man in the situation lol.

Unless he's not attracted to you at all or is just one of those guys who doesn't mind being friends with girls, he might lose interest in hanging out when he finds out you have a boyfriend. Every guy is different obviously.

These are some good points..

TeaMilk posted...
Im just venting but it feels like there's so many unwritten rules around social interactions that most other people just understand, and im going to make the wrong choices and fuck it up and look weird. I like the idea of having friends, but ive avoided opportunities for social interaction much of my adult life because of these fears. The few times I have put myself out there (going to extracurricular clubs in college, etc.) I just feel really scared/uncomfortable and don't make any progress

CE being mostly male is going to affect the effectiveness of advice, even though everyone is trying to be helpful... how a female seeks a friend (that happens to be a male) is better answered by females that have gone through the unique dynamics.

So Crimsoness advice :p

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TeaMilk
01/27/23 3:19:21 PM
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Bibimbap posted...
If this guy doesn't know you have a boyfriend, he's going to think you're hitting on him or that you're at least interested. If you spring the "Oh, I have a boyfriend" on him later, that would be more weird, IMO. He'd probably also wonder why you're hitting him up to hang out without your boyfriend around. I would think maybe you're fighting with your boyfriend or something. I've been in these kinds of situations, and they're always confusing as the man in the situation lol.

Unless he's not attracted to you at all or is just one of those guys who doesn't mind being friends with girls, he might lose interest in hanging out when he finds out you have a boyfriend. Every guy is different obviously.
is this really how most people think? That if a girl* wants to play video games with a guy its sexually motivated? It almost feels presumptuous to just bring up I'm in a relationship. Like "teehee btw I have a boyfriend, don't flirt with me silly boys ;)"

If it comes up naturally, then sure I'm not gonna pretend I'm not in a relationship or anything. But I think people should have friendships outside of dating and I would like that. Also gay people are out there

NoxObscuras posted...
I'd just frame it as a request. Something like "Do you mind if my boyfriend comes with us for lunch? I think you'd get along with him too."
I just can't shake the feeling that this is fucking weird lol. Im not trying to hide anything but id feel weird if a new friend brought some random guy probably? Itd be totally different if it was a group get together with other people (I really should have gone to that farewell lunch)

Either way I'm nowhere close to doing an irl hang out so I won't worry about it for now

Ruvan22 posted...
CE being mostly male is going to affect the effectiveness of advice, even though everyone is trying to be helpful... how a female seeks a friend (that happens to be a male) is better answered by females that have gone through the unique dynamics.

So Crimsoness advice :p

JK
Yeah but a lot of you guys are also 30 yr old whiteboy gamers who watch rick and morty so I thought this was the perfect place to ask

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David1988
01/27/23 3:24:25 PM
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Befriend with benefits?

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NoxObscuras
01/27/23 3:33:49 PM
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TeaMilk posted...
is this really how most people think? That if a girl* wants to play video games with a guy its sexually motivated? It almost feels presumptuous to just bring up I'm in a relationship. Like "teehee btw I have a boyfriend, don't flirt with me silly boys ;)"
It's not that it's automatically assumed. We just don't know for sure what he's thinking. It's possible he's thinking that, but it's also possible that dating you never even crossed his mind. Gotta cover all the bases, just in case.

If it comes up naturally, then sure I'm not gonna pretend I'm not in a relationship or anything. But I think people should have friendships outside of dating and I would like that. Also gay people are out there

I just can't shake the feeling that this is fucking weird lol. Im not trying to hide anything but id feel weird if a new friend brought some random guy probably? Itd be totally different if it was a group get together with other people (I really should have gone to that farewell lunch)
I only suggested it because you said you have a hard time with one on one interactions if you're not familiar. And I don't think it's weird to bring up your boyfriend. Even if he doesn't have to be friends with every person you befriend, he's a part of your life.

You can just casually bring him up while you're chatting with this ex-coworker. Like if he mentions a game that cornman played, your can go "I haven't tried that game, but my boyfriend loved it." Or whatever feels natural for you. I bring up my girlfriend all the time. Not because I feel like the other person needs to know, but because I just like talking about her lol.

And hey, maybe he has a partner too and you can do a double date or something.

Either way I'm nowhere close to doing an irl hang out so I won't worry about it for now
Yeah don't stress about it. We're just offering suggestions and seeing if any ideas sound appealing to you.

Yeah but a lot of you guys are also 30 yr old whiteboy gamers who watch rick and morty so I thought this was the perfect place to ask
I'm a 33 year old black guy. Don't know if that changes my perspective lol

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Bibimbap
01/27/23 3:50:11 PM
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TeaMilk posted...
is this really how most people think? That if a girl* wants to play video games with a guy its sexually motivated? It almost feels presumptuous to just bring up I'm in a relationship. Like "teehee btw I have a boyfriend, don't flirt with me silly boys ;)"

If it comes up naturally, then sure I'm not gonna pretend I'm not in a relationship or anything. But I think people should have friendships outside of dating and I would like that. Also gay people are out there


It's how I'd think if a girl I'm attracted to asked me to hang out, and I didn't know she had a boyfriend. I wouldn't automatically assume that it's going to lead to anything sexual, but I would think she's at least interested. Why not just invite him to come hang out with you and your boyfriend. At least that way there's no confusion, and he knows from the outset that you're taken. Otherwise, you're kind of leading him on whether intentionally or not. He could misconstrue your intentions. Even if you think you're not leading him on and not flirting with him, he might interpret it that way. And yes, obviously I'm assuming he's not gay. If he's gay, then none of this is an issue.

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dioxxys
01/27/23 11:40:18 PM
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TeaMilk posted...
Im just venting but it feels like there's so many unwritten rules around social interactions that most other people just understand, and im going to make the wrong choices and fuck it up and look weird. I like the idea of having friends, but ive avoided opportunities for social interaction much of my adult life because of these fears. The few times I have put myself out there (going to extracurricular clubs in college, etc.) I just feel really scared/uncomfortable and don't make any progress
As someone with autism, social interaction has been tough for me. You can't learn if you're expecting to do everything perfect. So not trying at all is going to get you nowhere. Something that's also helped me studying social interactions like you would an exam. They've got some great videos about body language, mannerisms, etc on charisma on command on YouTube.
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Slaya4
01/28/23 12:08:17 AM
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It sucks, but honestly I wouldn't ask him for lunch. That could be taken as you being interested in him as more than friends. If you really want to hangout the safest bet would be to invite him to play a multiplayer game with you and your bf like CoD, FF14 or some shit.

I agree with you that in an ideal world you shouldn't have to constantly bring up the fact that your in a relationship when hanging out as friends. I have been in your position and each and every time when the woman finds out that I have a girl (not hiding the fact) it turned sour in some way or they cut me off completely which I get.

Now I'm just upfront about it and it's much less of an headache later on. The first few times it's awkward, but eventually you get used to it. People understand that if they want to hangout then I come as a pair. There's few exceptions to this, but overall my wife is coming with me.

Edit- you can also host a movie night or something with a few other people. Whatever it is just make sure it's not a 1on1 thing.

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LukaDoncic77
01/28/23 11:01:47 AM
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Slaya4 posted...
It sucks, but honestly I wouldn't ask him for lunch. That could be taken as you being interested in him as more than friends. If you really want to hangout the safest bet would be to invite him to play a multiplayer game with you and your bf like CoD, FF14 or some shit.

I agree with you that in an ideal world you shouldn't have to constantly bring up the fact that your in a relationship when hanging out as friends. I have been in your position and each and every time when the woman finds out that I have a girl (not hiding the fact) it turned sour in some way or they cut me off completely which I get.

Now I'm just upfront about it and it's much less of an headache later on. The first few times it's awkward, but eventually you get used to it. People understand that if they want to hangout then I come as a pair. There's few exceptions to this, but overall my wife is coming with me.

Edit- you can also host a movie night or something with a few other people. Whatever it is just make sure it's not a 1on1 thing.

thats kind of the whole point of asking him out for lunch or whatever in person interaction both are comfortable with, its the feeling out process to see if it can turn into more or if theyll just be friends

this is the problem that everyone seems to have, everyone is afraid to talk and express how they feel to one another, especially if theres interest from one side, he may be as interested in her as she is in him, but of course you want to avoid lunch in this case because you dont want those questions answered

be forward with how you feel, you shouldnt have to suppress how you feel because you dont want to offend him, just be you and if things work out then they do, and if they dont at least you put yourself out there and gave it your all

no point in prolonging the inevitable as if its meant to be (whether its friends, more than friends or not friends at all) it will be
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Ruvan22
01/28/23 1:25:34 PM
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LukaDoncic77 posted...
thats kind of the whole point of asking him out for lunch or whatever in person interaction both are comfortable with, its the feeling out process to see if it can turn into more or if theyll just be friends

this is the problem that everyone seems to have, everyone is afraid to talk and express how they feel to one another, especially if theres interest from one side, he may be as interested in her as she is in him, but of course you want to avoid lunch in this case because you dont want those questions answered

be forward with how you feel, you shouldnt have to suppress how you feel because you dont want to offend him, just be you and if things work out then they do, and if they dont at least you put yourself out there and gave it your all

no point in prolonging the inevitable as if its meant to be (whether its friends, more than friends or not friends at all) it will be

This is probably the best take away from this whole thread (I say that as a non white guy well past 30s that's never watched Rick & Morty) - and like Dioxxys said, recognizing that attempts is progress regardless of results :)
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DocileOrangeCup
01/28/23 11:50:38 PM
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Slaya4 posted...
you really want to hangout the safest bet would be to invite him to play a multiplayer game with you and your bf like CoD, FF14 or some shit.
Augh if I played cod with him and he was a quickscoper id shit myself

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Jennywentnorth8
01/28/23 11:56:41 PM
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Yeah honestly there is no way to do this without coming off that you are into him unless you just bluntly come in like "hey i just think ur a cool dude but im just lookin for a friend anywY wanna play some vidya"
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Leanaunfurled
01/29/23 12:01:14 AM
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Play Grounded, it's amazing.


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TeaMilk
01/29/23 1:13:34 AM
#40:


Jennywentnorth8 posted...
Yeah honestly there is no way to do this without coming off that you are into him unless you just bluntly come in like "hey i just think ur a cool dude but im just lookin for a friend anywY wanna play some vidya"
WHY is everyone saying this?? he's the one who mentioned getting lunch, and said itd be cool to game together. If anyone is being forward here its not me

anyway like whats the etiquette for messaging someone when theyre playing elden ring. idk if it'd be annoying, but if i wait for a short window when hes not playing it he'll think i was like watching the friends list the whole time. i cant fuckin do any of this

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Solid_Snake07
01/29/23 1:17:27 AM
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Ask if he wants to hang out sometime and follow through if he does.

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TeaMilk
01/29/23 1:18:07 AM
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Solid_Snake07 posted...
Ask if he wants to hang out sometime and follow through if he does.
i feel like im going to throw up just trying to message him on steam do you think i am capable of that at this time

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Tenlaar
01/29/23 1:24:12 AM
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Im pretty sure that if you genuinely thought he was the type to get so annoyed by getting a message while playing a game that it would cause some negative reaction you wouldnt want to be his friend to begin with.
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Bibimbap
01/29/23 1:28:18 AM
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TeaMilk posted...
WHY is everyone saying this?? he's the one who mentioned getting lunch, and said itd be cool to game together. If anyone is being forward here its not me


You described him as socially awkward. I'm guessing maybe he doesn't get a ton of attention from girls, so this may be his awkward way of trying to see if you're interested at all.

Is it possible that he really does just want to hang out as friends? Yes. Is it likely? No, not unless he's gay or is more interested in someone else than you. I do have female friends that I hang out with that I'm not interested in, but I rarely will ask a girl I don't know that well to hang out if I'm not at least a little interested in.

It doesn't have to be that stressful/awkward. Just invite him to come hang out with you and your boyfriend if you want. It's not that big of a deal lol.

We obviously don't know the guy, and we're just going on assumptions based on what you're telling us.

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Solid_Snake07
01/29/23 1:33:57 AM
#45:


TeaMilk posted...
i feel like im going to throw up just trying to message him on steam do you think i am capable of that at this time

Just relax man, dont overthink it. Guy seems like hes open to hanging out sometime from what youve said.

Whats the worst that could happen? He blows you off? Big deal. You might get your feelings a little hurt but youll have your answer instead of thinking about what ifs.

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DocileOrangeCup
01/29/23 1:36:17 AM
#46:


Bibimbap posted...
Is it possible that he really does just want to hang out as friends? Yes. Is it likely? No, not unless he's gay or is more interested in someone else than you.
Wtf is this really how it is???

This sounds like something Steve Harvey would say

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--Zero-
01/29/23 1:36:48 AM
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TC just message him. You dont work together or interact at all anymore. Pretty much anyone will say yes to exchanging gamer info. Yall can play games together and if you want to meet him just ask while playing a game. The worst that can happen is hes not interested in being friends and things will go back to how they were before with not talking to him but at least youll get closure.

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Pastryarchy
01/29/23 1:41:32 AM
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so now i'm like. what are my next steps? I've been invisible on steam because im afraid to talk to him

And you get over it.
You got a green light.

Waiting a few more months will just make make shit more awkward, not less.

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dioxxys
01/29/23 3:18:01 AM
#49:


DocileOrangeCup posted...
Wtf is this really how it is???

This sounds like something Steve Harvey would say
yes
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LukaDoncic77
01/30/23 1:01:47 PM
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is there a follow up @TeaMilk, did you take some (or none) of the advice given in this topic?
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